Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

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I am strongly disapprove of the Senate passing, and Afleitch approving of the Prostitution Legalization Bill.

That is my opinion.

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I am glad to see Senator Jas is proposing some things, but I wish he had proposed these earlier, when they could have been voted on in the last Senate.

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The [Yates Cancer Research Bill] has garnered enough votes to fail

At last, the long national nightmare is finally over.

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As far as the Education Funding Clarification Bill, the tex of which is here:

Educational Funding Clarification Bill

No federal money shall go towards any regional school voucher system which funds the tuitions for schools which meet any of the following criteria:
a.) Teaches one religious faith to the exclusion of all others
b.) Prohibits students from joining on the basis of race, nationality, religion, or sexual orientation
c.) Allows the use of corporal punishment by school staff or administration.

(Sponsor: Ebowed)

I think it would be ideal if the entirety of the bill was scrapped with the exception of the bolded part. For one, I see no reason federal funds should be allocated to any voucher program. This bill in its current text would implicate the federal funds should go to voucher schools if they meet those requirements. Also, by refusing to allocate funds to those voucher schools while allocating funds to voucher schools that meet the requirements, that is essentially a subsidy of voucher schools that meet those requirements. The first requirement seems a bit frivolous, as I don't see, for example, why any non-Catholic would want to join a Catholic school. Why should the teaching of the Catholic religion be excluded in a private, all-Catholic school?

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Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

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Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

If that's the case, then Ebowed's amendment is completely pointless.

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Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Amendment

That Article II, Section 3, Clause 3 of the Constitution shall be removed and subsequent clauses shall be renumbered accordingly.

Given that Ebowed is the only president that has served two terms, it would seem as though this is merely an attempt for him to run for the office again.

I'm fairly sure the clause doesn't prevent Ebowed from running for the Presidency again. The clause prevents being elected more than twice consecutively.

If that's the case, then Ebowed's amendment is completely pointless.

No it's not.  A President should be able to run for a third consecutive term.

I'm not arguming with the principle. I just think it's frivolous because presidents forthe most part only serve one term.

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Universal Health Care Bill of 2007

1. The federal government hereby establishes a single-payer universal health care program for use in the District of Columbia and all federal territories.
2. This program will be open towards any resident or citizen of the District of Columbia or any Atlasian federal territories regardless of previous health conditions, disability, citizenship status, criminal record, or economic status.  No person will be required to pay for access to health care.
3. All medical services, including preventative treatment and dental care, will be covered under this system.
4. All subsidies towards health maintenence organizations ('HMOs') are abolished.

A definition of what "universal health care" actually means should be provided in section 1, at least in my opinion.

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I think he's more referring to what exactly is encompassed by "universal health care". Will medical facilities be taken over by the government and no one be charged for use, will the government be billed for medical expenses, will it cover luxuries like braces, Viagra, and plastic surgery, etc.

Yes. That, and explaining that universal health care would mean that your medical services would be payed for by the government.

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Small Business Relief Act of 2007
Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (Pub. L. No. 107-204, 116 Stat. 745) is repealed.

Right to be Reproduced Act
Reproductive Rights Act (F.L. 18-1) is repealed.

Unproven Research Funding Elimination Act
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (F.L. 18-7) is repealed

Illegal is Still Illegal Act
Illegal Immigrant Act (F.L. 18-8) is replealed.

Irrelevant in Atlasia But Needs To Be Eliminated Act
Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (McCain–Feingold Act, Pub.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 81) is repealed.

Can't really say I oppose any of these bills. I hope they pass.

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Press Complaints Commission Bill

Section 1 - In order to safeguard the integrity of our free press and the freedom of the individual, there shall be established a Press Complaints Commission empowered with the authority to investigate charges brought to it on the basis of the following grievances: slander without due basis, fabrication of a story or editorial involving a named individual, insults against a named person, statements regarding an individual deemed to be considered by said individual as a statement of untruth.

Section 2a - The Press Complaints Commission shall consist of two individuals appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate except where identified as exempt by Section 2b.

Section 2b - No member of the Press Complaints Commission shall be an owner, proprietor or editor of any national media outlet.

Section 3 - The Commission shall have the authority to adjudicate on any matter brought before it by aggrieved persons. All parties involved shall be granted the right of representation during the period of adjudication.

Section4 - The Commission shall have the authority to impose a fine of between $100 and $100,000 if it finds in favour of the complaint brought before it by the aggrieved.

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May require modification.

I would like to complain about Section 4 of the bill. The National Weekly Atlasian only has a few thousand dollars on hand, so this section may have unintended consequences.

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The fine itself is broad. If it was judged the NWA could only pay $100 if it breached any of the guidlines above then that is all that may be recommended. The fine is not designed to cripple the media.

Okay, then that is understandable. You might want to add a section to the bill explaining that when this gets brought up.

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Motion to Expel Senator DWTL and Senator PiT

For conduct unbecoming an Atlasian Senator, I hereby motion that Senator DWTL and Senator PiT be immediately expelled from the Senate.


I would ask that this motion be brought to the Senate floor as soon as possible.

Expeling them from an act that had nothing to do with their role in the Senate?

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Resolution on the Ongoing Israel-Palestine Conflict

1. The Republic of Atlasia condemns Hamas for failing to end the irresponsible and unwarranted rocket attacks on Israel.

2. The Republic of Atlasia recognises Israel's right to defend itself, however condemns the recent military actions of the Israeli Government against Palestinians as disproportionate and as failing to take all necessary measures to prevent civilian casualties and fatalities.

3. The Republic of Atlasia calls for an immediate ceasefire and asks both sides to allow unrestricted access for humanitarian agencies to assist the victims of these attacks.

I intend to vote against this.

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Gold Standard Act

1. The value of currency in circulation shall be directly based on the value of the gold held by the Federal Reserve.

   a. Any currency printed after the passage of this act shall not become legal tender until the Federal Reserve shall have procured an equivalent amount of additional gold.

2. Any citizen of Atlasia may trade official currency to the federal reserve of the Republic of Atlasia for gold, and vice versa.

3. Gold shall have equal legal standing to official currency of the Republic of Atlasia.

Great bill. Hopefully we can get this passed.

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This is ridiculous. I demand bimetallism.

Would parallel standards be an acceptable compromise?

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Everyone be friendly and cordial to each other, please and thank you.

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Everyone be friendly and cordial to each other, please and thank you.

Its not cordial to make it so that no other senator can properly propose a bill the whole session.  It'll take us weeks to sort through all your drivel with the result being 20 or so failed bills.

If you have a piece legislation to propose, I'll ask that the PPT move it up ahead of my legislation. Same for anyone else that has a piece of legislation to propose. And I believe that every piece of legislation deserves to be given a fair chance, and one should not be so certain about the outcome of such legislation.

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Someone attach a rider to a bill:

All legislation introduced to this point by Chuck Hagel 08 is tabled.

Surely legislation that was destined to fail wouldn't require a provision like that to be tabled.

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Someone attach a rider to a bill:

All legislation introduced to this point by Chuck Hagel 08 is tabled.

Surely legislation that was destined to fail wouldn't require a provision like that to be tabled.

It'd speed up the process.

Should the process be sped up for any other legislation that a senator deems "destined to fail"? I've already said that I'll allow any of the other senators to cut in front of me for one piece of legislation, I think that my legislation deserves a vote as well.

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     You know, I was thinking, but wouldn't any attempt to actually use the TBA be a bill of attainder?

Good point.

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Someone attach a rider to a bill:

All legislation introduced to this point by Chuck Hagel 08 is tabled.

Perhaps a more legitimate way of bypassing this crisis would be to amend the Senate's Rules so that a Senator may only have a maximum of 2 pieces of legislation under consideration at any time, with the rule only enforced at the PPTs discretion (this would therefore avoid a massive amount of juggling the rest of the time when a Senator might end up with 3 pieces of legislation on the floor without having "stacked" the queue in the manner we have just seen

Done, and moved to #2 on the queue. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Can't believe SPC actually introduced my joke act, I didn't realize he was serious

Maybe you shouldn't have tested the limits to which I would obey my campaign promises.

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I wasn't here for your campaign, ah.

Well no more from me!

It looks like No troll banishment act will be needed and that Gustaf and MasterJedi need to be nominated for some kind of awards....

That's good. Now the Senate can vote on the End to Clogging Bill first.

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Repeal of the Affirmative Action Bill

F.L. 28-9 is repealed.


Modification to the World War II Commemoration Act

Section 3 is repealed.


Repeal of the Aesbestos Ban Amendment Act

F.L. 12-5 is repealed.

Good work, Masterjedi.

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Repeal of the Affirmative Action Bill

F.L. 28-9 is repealed.


Modification to the World War II Commemoration Act

Section 3 is repealed.


Repeal of the Aesbestos Ban Amendment Act

F.L. 12-5 is repealed.

Good work, Masterjedi.

You won't like the third one, it repeals a bill to make aesbestos fully banned again.

Well, 2/3 ain't bad.