Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[MaxQue]

Amendment to Abolish the Southeast

1. The citizens of the Southeast region have consistently proven they are not capable of governing themselves
2. For the citizens' own protection, the Southeast regional government shall be abolished and the duties of governing the region shall be ceded to the various other regional governments
3. The cessions will go as follows:

• The states of Texas and Louisiana will be hereafter governed by the Pacific regional government
• The states of Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama will be hereafter governed by the Midwest regional government
• The states of Tennessee, North Carolina and South Carolina will be hereafter governed by the Mideast regional government
• The states of Georgia and Florida will be hereafter governed by the Northeast regional government

I'm about 5% serious

You forgot Puerto Rico. Bad.

     Another concern is a non-contiguous Northeast. I would say give Georgia, Florida, & Puerto Rico to the Mideast, who in turn would give D.C. & Maryland to the Northeast, along with Missouri to the Midwest. Or a plan along those lines.

For the congruity, you could give a coastal territory of 1/12 foot from the South Carolina to Maryland and the Outer Banks.

[MaxQue]

I don't know if Marokai and Lief are open to that, but I am open to put Canada and European Union in the ''Buy Atlasian'' clause.

[MaxQue]

I don't know if Marokai and Lief are open to that, but I am open to put Canada and European Union in the ''Buy Atlasian'' clause.

How the hell would it be "Buy Atlasian" if Canada and the EU were included?  Hell let's just throw in China, Japan, and the Sudan have a ball

Well, ''Buy in respectful countries'' then. Including our main trade parnter could be a good idea. Especially than there is no much difference between north and south of the border.

[MaxQue]

UAE is illegal under the original LGBT trade law, because it applies death penalty to homosexuals.

[MaxQue]

I urge all senators to oppose the massive intrusion of freedom in the bill Sen. Fritz's has just proposed.  Atlasia has a long history of party switching and waiting 60 days in between party switching is absurd

For a very rare time in my life, I completely agree with DWTL. That bill is a threat to democracy by deleting the freedom to be a member of the political party we want.

[MaxQue]

Senator Marokai's Bow Chicka Bow Wow Act;

1. All individuals 14 years of age or older shall have the right to buy, possess, and view pornography depicting only persons of 18 years of age or older

May be, for good or bad, unecessary due to the Liberalisation of Sex Laws Act

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Liberalization_of_Sex_Laws_Act

Obviously, unecessary bill. Marokai, please withdraw that bill to no lose our time, thanks.

[MaxQue]

Senator Marokai's Bow Chicka Bow Wow Act;

1. All individuals 14 years of age or older shall have the right to buy, possess, and view pornography depicting only persons of 18 years of age or older

May be, for good or bad, unecessary due to the Liberalisation of Sex Laws Act

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Liberalization_of_Sex_Laws_Act

Obviously, unecessary bill. Marokai, please withdraw that bill to no lose our time, thanks.

When I was digging through the statutes on the wiki a few days ago I noticed that disgusting piece of trash. Time to repeal or amend it if you ask me.

The problem is then some 14-18 years old paid for that. We can't force them to delete something they bought legally. That is not right.

[MaxQue]

Please do not withdraw it. I'd like to amend it to eliminate a minimum age entirely.

For gods sake, why?

Why not? It's a victimless crime.

Ah no its not. I consider the fools that submit themselves to being photographed in such a way are victims. The idiot who looks at it is also the victim. Just because people want to do something doesn't mean we should let them if its "victimless". I seem to remember a bill not two long ago where the same arguement I made here was being made by my opponents on this.

And why should a 12 year old boy not be allowed to look at nude women (or men) if he wants to? He or his parents should be making these decisions, not the state.

I would support a bill that would just keep them from buying it. If their parents think they can have it, they can buy it for them. I'm not sure if you should make looking at it "illegal" though.

Well I would prefer to make all porn illegal for everyone, but thats not practical wih Senate lacking moral fiber. For now illegalisng the sale to minors would be a good start.

I have a moral fiber. I just don't see why I should impose it on other persons.

[MaxQue]

If it's not too much, would the Senate pass legislation making it a crime to reveal classified or top secret information? I figure if I am, indeed, going to be supplying that sort of info, there should be some deterrent from publicizing it.

I have a problem because of the possible case than Senators could need a secret information to pass a law. Senate will not give all the control to the President and the DoEA, from what I am seeing on the Senate floor.

[MaxQue]

One would assume that Senators would be permitted to see classified information.

I never assume things. I prefer to ask questions now. That is better than asking them when we will be in trouble.

[MaxQue]

If it's not too much, would the Senate pass legislation making it a crime to reveal classified or top secret information? I figure if I am, indeed, going to be supplying that sort of info, there should be some deterrent from publicizing it.

I have a problem because of the possible case than Senators could need a secret information to pass a law. Senate will not give all the control to the President and the DoEA, from what I am seeing on the Senate floor.

It would really be up to the Senate how the law is crafted. I understand that information cannot only be shared with the PPT, but that is who the info will be released to in the Senate. The hope is that this person will share that info with the Senate.

Essentially, I will be sharing top secret info with the Pres., VP, SoEA and PPT. It is their responsibility to keep the Senate informed.

I already know that. I was talking than we need an exception for Senators, since the PPT, the VP, the SoEA or the President could be prosecuted for saying it privately to the Senators.

[MaxQue]

I dislike very strongly abortion, but no.

I wouldn't be against mandatory meetings with a psy to be sure than the person is understanding than an abortion has long-term psychological effects in many case, to be sure than the person took all things in consideration before making his choice, to be sure than the person is not pushed by someone else and other psychological issues.

[MaxQue]

Amending?  This is the only kind of abortion bill that should ever be passed.  I applaud the senator for his bill and will firmly support such measure whenever I re-enter the senate

Rowan won't be in the Senate though, so it'll be tough to get the votes for it.

Not if I run in October

But 1 + 1 = 2, not 6.

[MaxQue]

That might be a good idea for going forward, but how will we prevent the current bank failures? That doesn't really help in the short term.

With Southeast money if they decides to burn it?

[MaxQue]

You know what I am going to join them too. Nothing is okay till we have 14 years running down the street with AK-47s, being in pornography, drug trafficking, and using, drinking, smoking, serving in the military. Who cares the brains aren't fully developed and these thinks can do great damage. Who cares what bad effects this will have because guess what, they will do it all anyway so we should not even, not even make an attempt to stop. Hello Anarchy, here we come.


This is sarcasm of course.

You know than I am opposed to all that junk. I voted for the first bill only because the law is unenforceable. Nobody ever showed us how to make that law enforceable. If someone had, I probably voted against the bill.

[MaxQue]

For the record, I don't support a CoG not being able to make amendments. I prefer bicameralism, over a watered down CoG.

[MaxQue]

Just for the record I am not suicidal. I am however suffering from those three illnesses mentioned though.

Well, it takes courage to say than we have mental illnesses and I will stand against those who insult and bully people who are suffering of mental illnesses.

My best friend had one and this is very difficult. That is enough complicated to manage, you don't need to be picked on for that, too.

That is a little bit insensible, Marokai.

[MaxQue]

Its a freakin all out assualt on Regional Rights. If the DS wants to preserve the Death penalty that is none of anyone elses businesses. We refused to be governed by the Mideast laws, Franzl. How would you like it if we foisted ours on you? You want war, then war you shall get.

If you want to stay in the 19th century, you are free to do so, but be ready to face the consequences...

[MaxQue]

Before someone threathen to expell me, I am writing a bill. Well, nothing is written yet, but I expect to present it tomorrow.

[MaxQue]

If someone may want to put that in a better place, fell free to do it/indicate me where.
List of Senatorial successions, per the Proportional Representation Act:

41th Senate:
Senator #1: Lief (JCP)
Senator #2: Bacon King (JCP)
Senator #3: Dallasfan (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

42th Senate (a three seat by-election happened):
Senator #1: Lief (JCP), then Oakvale (JCP)
Senator #2: Bacon King (JCP), then Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Dallasfan (Pop), then Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

43th Senate:
Senator #1: Oakvale (JCP)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

44th Senate:
Senator #1: Oakvale (JCP), then JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Shua (Pop)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: Antonio V (UDL)

45th Senate (supposing senate agree with the UDL-JCP (left-left) and Pop-CID (right-center) pairings:
Senator #1: JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Snowguy (JCP)
Senator #3: Homelycooking (CID), then Kalwejt (JCP)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: BRTD (JCP)

46th Senate:
Senator #1: JBrase (Ind)
Senator #2: Nathan (JCP)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (JCP)
Senator #4: AHDuke99 (RPP)
Senator #5: BRTD (JCP)

47th Senate (no clear political matches):
Senator #1: Junkie (RPP, then Ind)
Senator #2: Nathan (JCP, than Labor)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (JCP), then Polnut (JCP, then Liberal)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (RPP, then Whig)
Senator #5: 20RP12 (SPA)

48th Senate (no clear political matches between (Ind and Liberal) and (Labor and Whig):
Senator #1: Junkie (Ind), then Alfred F. Jones (Labor)
Senator #2: Nathan (Labor)
Senator #3: Oakvale (Liberal), then Pingvin (Whig)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

49th Senate (seat 2 is the longest Labor-held, indies are in alphabetical order):
Senator #1: AndrewCT (Ind)
Senator #2: seatown (Labor)
Senator #3: Wormyguy (Ind)
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

50th Senate:
Senator #1: AndrewCT (Ind)
Senator #2: seatown (Labor)
Senator #3: Wormyguy (Ind), then vacant.
Senator #4: TJ in Cleve (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig)

51th Senate:
Senator #1: Bacon King (Liberal), then vacant
Senator #2: Marokai Blue (Labor)
Senator #3: NVTownsend (Liberal), then vacant
Senator #4: Hagrid (Whig)
Senator #5: Clarence (Whig), then Franlz (Liberal)

52th Senate:
Senator #1: Simfan (TPP)
Senator #2: Marokai Blue (Labor)
Senator #3: Snowstalker (Labor)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Whig), then (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (Liberal), then (TPP)

53th Senate (Labor keeps its longest held seat, no clear ideological fits (Lab-TPP and Lib-Fed)):
Senator #1: Mr. X (Liberal), then (TPP)
Senator #2: Barnes (Labor), then Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Spamage (Fed)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (TPP)

54th Senate:
Senator #1: Mr. X (TPP), then (Ind)
Senator #2: Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Spamage (Fed), then Clarence (Fed)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: Franzl (TPP), than MattFromVT (Fed)

55th Senate:
Senator #1: Mr. X (Ind)
Senator #2: Napoleon (Liberal)
Senator #3: Kalwejt (Liberal)
Senator #4: Hagrid (Fed)
Senator #5: MaxQue (Lab)

[MaxQue]

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Senate_History

Nix has it the other way around in here.

It really only matters with regards to you changing a predecessors vote and I think we have already gotten past all such potentiallities without controversy on the matter.

Well, it's not when the list will be 20 Senates long than we will need to fix it, as it will quite tenious.

[MaxQue]

Well, the President can't introduce bills, only Senators can. I would suggest you to lobby a Senator to introduce a bill on the issue.

[MaxQue]

If the President posted it in his thread it should have been introduced. If one got missed, I would have anticipated that Marokai would bitch about it until it got introduced and I would gladly introduce it for him just to ease his state of mind. I know I introduced some of them, myself like the Parties Amendment and the Libertas thing.

Maxy you are tight with the President, why don't you contact him about this and if there is a stituation here, get it introduced for him.

The President is currently on leave from Atlasia, you're quite aware of that.
Anyways, I don't remember any bill on that subject being posted. It was in the campaign platform of the Marokai/Duke ticket, through, but no bill has been published on the subject for the moment.

[MaxQue]

I'm sorry, but as it's been a while since my last Senate tenure, do things are always that slow? It's seems we're in a very slow mode.

I think than the PPT is having computer problems, which cause delays. Indeed, it's very slow.

[MaxQue]

I have contacted the Justice committee chair if it's the appropriate committee.    

I answered you on that, but I doubt it's in the Judiciary committee powers anyways, unless it's considered related to regional law enforcement, which I doubt.

Anyways, the committee is busy until next Suday, we already are in the impeachment hearings of the Supreme Court Justices (which weren't my choice).