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Question: Should this poll be entered to the FORUM poll database ? (please read thread)
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« on: October 09, 2014, 08:03:42 PM »

Median poll is still Orman +5. Ras/Marist are pro-Orman outliers, CNN/Fox pro-Roberts outliers. How nice and neat. Smiley
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 01:36:30 AM »
« Edited: October 10, 2014, 02:13:13 AM by IceSpear »

Looks like this result was so out of line with other polls that Rasmussen decided not to release it after all, despite announcing earlier that they would:



PPP has done the same thing a few times, when the outlier was really obvious.

It would've been no more of an outlier than FOX's was. Pretty sketchy from Ras to go the Gravis route. "Result too good for Democrats? I guess we'll throw it away and do a new one!"
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2014, 01:09:19 PM »

The poll is clearly an outlier, but that has never been a valid reason for excluding one from the database. Ras published it, so had somebody entered it quickly, would we be pulling it now just because Ras pulled it later? Probably not.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 03:30:13 PM »

Maybe Scott Rasmussen sabotaged Rasmussen's polling data.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 04:45:35 PM »

Outlying polls to each side of the race is how you get an average of polls that show you where the race is going. The more polls you have, provided they are done with a valid methodology and not to serve a partisan purpose, the more sense an average of polls make and the more chance you have that your average can predict the outcome more or less correctly.

I'm with Antonio on this.

It's only an outlying poll if the poll was publicly released. Obviously, this one wasn't ready for prime time. They held short of a wider release and retracted it. It amazes me that people want to include bad information solely because it looks good for one candidate over another.

Bad information is bad information. It should not be included if you are intellectually honest. Something was wrong as a matter of science or Rasmussen would have released the poll to not just subscribers.

There's plenty of good information that never gets released and bad information that does get released, so I'm not sure what your point is here. You have no proof that Ras didn't release it because it was "bad science", it's probable they just realized afterward that it was far off the consensus and didn't want to embarrass themselves by releasing an obvious outlier.
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