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« on: November 01, 2014, 09:26:44 pm »

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Kasich 62
Fitz 34


The great champion of the people Kasich is leading a sweep of all statewide offices. Voinovich won Cuyahoga County in 2004 with 64% of the vote.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 09:30:33 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 09:30:35 pm »

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The Republican governor is leading the way to an apparent GOP sweep of all statewide offices, although Treasurer Josh Mandel is ahead of state Rep. Connie Pillich, D-Cincinnati, by only 6 points, 53 percent to 47 percent.

Since this poll is clearly inflating Kasich's margin, this means we could very well defeat Mandel. Wonderful news!
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 09:33:55 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

Junk poll!
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 09:34:20 pm »

Fitzgerald will probably win Cuyahoga, but Kasich will get at least 40% of the Cuyahoga vote.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 09:56:13 pm »

Will Kasich break 60%? Prediction generator needs to know Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2014, 04:54:57 am »

Plze dont nominate anymore Lee Fishers or Fitzgeralds, Betty Sutton or Tim Ryan would been a B, not C level candidate.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2014, 07:26:36 am »
« Edited: November 02, 2014, 07:29:30 am by Ectoplasm X »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2014, 07:50:39 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 07:53:36 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.

Yeah, they conduct their polls by mail.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 07:55:09 pm »
« Edited: November 02, 2014, 08:20:40 pm by Badger »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.

Yeah, they conduct their polls by mail.

Well, yeah, that's not reassuring, but more importantly their numbers are usually among the furthest off of statewide polls (I think, and am too lazy to google).

EDIT: They were apparently right on the money with Obama-Romney, though.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 08:02:27 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.

Yeah, they conduct their polls by mail.

Well, yeah, that's not reassuring, but more importantly their numbers are usually among the furthest off of statewide polls (I think, and am too lazy to google).

That too
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 09:03:59 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
Regarding French, X is right about her. She's just a personal vote for Kasich on the OSC (ex. going with the majority on the flawed JobsOhio's constitutionality). French even just admitted that the other day when she said she was prepared to reinforce all GOP legislation that passes by.

I wouldn't count the State Bar as very reliable for this one race, either. They're attacking O'Donnell as partisan for saying in an ad that French pocketed campaign contributions by a corporation in return for a OSC vote for them, yet they refuse to go after French for her partisan comments. O'Donnell is definitely highly qualified and I appreciate them giving him that rating, but calling French "highly recommended" is ridiculous.

As for the poll, it's Dispatch so trash it. Admittedly, their 2012 OH-Sen poll was right on the dot (Brown +6), but their Governor polling....not so much. The accepted belief is that Fitzy will lose by upper teen double digits and this poll isn't even close. It's reassuring though that Mandel's only up by 6 in this!
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 09:09:42 pm »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
Regarding French, X is right about her. She's just a personal vote for Kasich on the OSC (ex. going with the majority on the flawed JobsOhio's constitutionality). French even just admitted that the other day when she said she was prepared to reinforce all GOP legislation that passes by.

I wouldn't count the State Bar as very reliable for this one race, either. They're attacking O'Donnell as partisan for saying in an ad that French pocketed campaign contributions by a corporation in return for a OSC vote for them, yet they refuse to go after French for her partisan comments. O'Donnell is definitely highly qualified and I appreciate them giving him that rating, but calling French "highly recommended" is ridiculous.

As for the poll, it's Dispatch so trash it. Admittedly, their 2012 OH-Sen poll was right on the dot (Brown +6), but their Governor polling....not so much. The accepted belief is that Fitzy will lose by upper teen double digits and this poll isn't even close. It's reassuring though that Mandel's only up by 6 in this!

Yeah, French more or less said she sees her job as a State Supreme Court Justice being to rubber-stamp whatever the Republican legislature passes.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2014, 10:48:01 am »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
Regarding French, X is right about her. She's just a personal vote for Kasich on the OSC (ex. going with the majority on the flawed JobsOhio's constitutionality). French even just admitted that the other day when she said she was prepared to reinforce all GOP legislation that passes by.

I wouldn't count the State Bar as very reliable for this one race, either. They're attacking O'Donnell as partisan for saying in an ad that French pocketed campaign contributions by a corporation in return for a OSC vote for them, yet they refuse to go after French for her partisan comments. O'Donnell is definitely highly qualified and I appreciate them giving him that rating, but calling French "highly recommended" is ridiculous.

As for the poll, it's Dispatch so trash it. Admittedly, their 2012 OH-Sen poll was right on the dot (Brown +6), but their Governor polling....not so much. The accepted belief is that Fitzy will lose by upper teen double digits and this poll isn't even close. It's reassuring though that Mandel's only up by 6 in this!

Actually, their poll was right on the money in 2010 predicting a Kasich win by 2. I couldn't find anything online immediately about how they did in the 2008 presidential race or 06 governor's race, but between nailing the last presidential, senatorial, and gubernatorial races, I really can't remember why I (mis)recalled the Dispatch polls being of mediocre accuracy.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2014, 10:51:43 am »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
Regarding French, X is right about her. She's just a personal vote for Kasich on the OSC (ex. going with the majority on the flawed JobsOhio's constitutionality). French even just admitted that the other day when she said she was prepared to reinforce all GOP legislation that passes by.

I wouldn't count the State Bar as very reliable for this one race, either. They're attacking O'Donnell as partisan for saying in an ad that French pocketed campaign contributions by a corporation in return for a OSC vote for them, yet they refuse to go after French for her partisan comments. O'Donnell is definitely highly qualified and I appreciate them giving him that rating, but calling French "highly recommended" is ridiculous.

As for the poll, it's Dispatch so trash it. Admittedly, their 2012 OH-Sen poll was right on the dot (Brown +6), but their Governor polling....not so much. The accepted belief is that Fitzy will lose by upper teen double digits and this poll isn't even close. It's reassuring though that Mandel's only up by 6 in this!

Actually, their poll was right on the money in 2010 predicting a Kasich win by 2. I couldn't find anything online immediately about how they did in the 2008 presidential race or 06 governor's race, but between nailing the last presidential, senatorial, and gubernatorial races, I really can't remember why I (mis)recalled the Dispatch polls being of mediocre accuracy.

Badger, will Kasich be held under 60%?
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 10:53:27 am »

I'm pretty sure Kasich will be held under 60%. I get Cincinnati media.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 11:43:55 am »

This is another of the Dispatch's stupid mail polls.

True, but Kasich could easily win by the margin this poll shows.

Edit: S[inks]! Angry  French is the worst (aside from Mandel, o/c) Sad

Respectfully disagree re: French, as does the State Bar (though admittedly her opponent is also "highly recommended" like her).

That said, doesn't the Dispatch poll have some historical accuracy issues? Not Vox Populi or We Are America levels, but IIRC it's not that close either.
Regarding French, X is right about her. She's just a personal vote for Kasich on the OSC (ex. going with the majority on the flawed JobsOhio's constitutionality). French even just admitted that the other day when she said she was prepared to reinforce all GOP legislation that passes by.

I wouldn't count the State Bar as very reliable for this one race, either. They're attacking O'Donnell as partisan for saying in an ad that French pocketed campaign contributions by a corporation in return for a OSC vote for them, yet they refuse to go after French for her partisan comments. O'Donnell is definitely highly qualified and I appreciate them giving him that rating, but calling French "highly recommended" is ridiculous.

As for the poll, it's Dispatch so trash it. Admittedly, their 2012 OH-Sen poll was right on the dot (Brown +6), but their Governor polling....not so much. The accepted belief is that Fitzy will lose by upper teen double digits and this poll isn't even close. It's reassuring though that Mandel's only up by 6 in this!

Actually, their poll was right on the money in 2010 predicting a Kasich win by 2. I couldn't find anything online immediately about how they did in the 2008 presidential race or 06 governor's race, but between nailing the last presidential, senatorial, and gubernatorial races, I really can't remember why I (mis)recalled the Dispatch polls being of mediocre accuracy.

Badger, will Kasich be held under 60%?

Coin flip. I'd say he has a decent chance after Republicans were able to keep the Libertarian candidate off the ballot. I question Fitzgerald hitting 40%, but there might be enough disaffected Democrats and liberals who cast ballots for the Green to keep Kasich under 60.
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