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« on: April 12, 2004, 02:28:29 PM »

I have just finished a book on the life of Jefferson Davis, and I began to wonder this. I say even Billy Greys (Union name for Confederate soldiers, in case you didn;t know) deserve to fly their flag to remember those Southern boys who gave thier lives in the "Lost Cause."
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2004, 02:45:22 PM »

No flags should be banned.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2004, 02:46:46 PM »
« Edited: April 12, 2004, 02:47:11 PM by Michael Z »


Apart from the Nazi swastika. But that's another topic entirely, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2004, 02:48:06 PM »


That's a tougher one, but I am generally very sceptical about banning things, evenif I really don't like them. I usually defend Nazi's freedom of speech...doesn't mean I agree in anyway with their message, of course.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2004, 02:48:09 PM »


Apart from the Nazi swastika. But that's another topic entirely, I think.

Wrong!   No flags should be banned.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2004, 02:48:45 PM »


That's a tougher one, but I am generally very sceptical about banning things, evenif I really don't like them. I usually defend Nazi's freedom of speech...doesn't mean I agree in anyway with their message, of course.

Good point.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2004, 02:56:11 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2004, 03:02:24 PM »


Apart from the Nazi swastika. But that's another topic entirely, I think.

We shouldn't even ban that.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2004, 03:05:07 PM »

The Nazi flag should be banned... by the Battle Flag shouldn't... it shouldn't be misused by hate groups though...
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2004, 03:06:32 PM »

The Nazi flag should be banned... by the Battle Flag shouldn't... it shouldn't be misused by hate groups though...

I don't think you should ban any flag.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2004, 03:11:29 PM »

i am somewhere to the left of kennedy and even i think it shouldn't be banned.
it's history and revising history to please a group is silly.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2004, 03:12:47 PM »

i am somewhere to the left of kennedy and even i think it shouldn't be banned.
it's history and revising history to please a group is silly.


it's not a left/right thing.  it's something from the vertical axis.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2004, 03:14:12 PM »

Pro-ban=authoritarian
Anti-ban=libertarian
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2004, 04:07:47 PM »

It shouldn't be banned, but no one should be proud of it. Basically, I'd like to just see it vanish.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2004, 04:10:03 PM »

It shouldn't be banned, but no one should be proud of it. Basically, I'd like to just see it vanish.

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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2004, 05:13:22 PM »

im ashamed that conservatives in south carolina dont have the political balls to stand up and say the confederate flag needs to come down from the statehouse in columbia.

it shouldnt be banned, of course.  however, it is a very divisive symbol.  you cant move forward by constantly looking back.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2004, 05:17:12 PM »

If you support not banning the Confederate flag, then what about the Nazi flag? I don't care that the Confederate flag is a historical flag, blah blah. It is fill with racist imagery.

I support for consistancy in our law. I would vote for NOT banning the Confederate flag and ANY OTHER flag.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2004, 05:36:00 PM »

Walter Mitty, why sell out your homeland? S.Carolina has every RIGHT to fly the flag from their statehouse capitol if they wish. It is a proud symbol of their history and has been hijacked by hate groups. Although, the U.S. flag has been hijacked by the KKK and is used more by them then the CS Flag. I will post pictures of every CS Flag shortly.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2004, 05:44:24 PM »

im not selling out my homeland.  i just think the south needs to move forward and leave divisive symbols behind.

if 25%+ of your state's population is offended by the flying of the flag, then by all means, it should be taken down.

now here in nc there are some school districts that are having problems with students wearing confederate flag t-shirts.  im a southerner and i can say ive never had an urge to purchase or wear a shirt displaying the confederate flag.

i can think of reasons why someone would want to wear a confederate flag shirt, unfortunately, i can think of no positive reasons.
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2004, 05:47:44 PM »
« Edited: April 12, 2004, 05:49:53 PM by KEmperor »

Banned from private use:  No

Banned from use by the state:  Yes

Anyone can fly whatever they want on their private property, but a state government should not fly a flag that symbolizes rebellion against the federal government.
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2004, 05:48:29 PM »

im not selling out my homeland.  i just think the south needs to move forward and leave divisive symbols behind.

if 25%+ of your state's population is offended by the flying of the flag, then by all means, it should be taken down.

now here in nc there are some school districts that are having problems with students wearing confederate flag t-shirts.  im a southerner and i can say ive never had an urge to purchase or wear a shirt displaying the confederate flag.

i can think of reasons why someone would want to wear a confederate flag shirt, unfortunately, i can think of no positive reasons.

Apparently westerners like 'em too.  I see plenty of those battle flags out here.  Anyway, if 25% of the people were offended by a burning flag, should we make an amendment prohibiting it?  Hell, no!  Let folks fly their confederate battle flag high if they want.  I think it's very pretty.  I don't have one, but I have a jamaican flag on the wall in my office.  Srew 'em if they don't like it.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2004, 05:58:37 PM »

individuals have a right to fly any flag they want.  i was talking about the state flying it.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2004, 06:17:26 PM »

Banned from private use:  No

Banned from use by the state:  Yes

Anyone can fly whatever they want on their private property, but a state government should not fly a flag that symbolizes rebellion against the federal government.

Exactly. Let those who love the confederate flag wrap in it, just don't make the states do it.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2004, 06:22:33 PM »

I don't think that states should fly the Confederate Flag...I just don't think that you can stop them.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2004, 06:26:39 PM »

No, it shouldn't be banned. It shouldn't be flown on government property, but it certainly shouldn't be banned.
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