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« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2014, 04:53:00 pm »
« edited: November 03, 2014, 04:54:34 pm by smilo »

Unfortunate that Udall was forced to run in such a misogynistic state
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I take back my comment. I thought this was a parody of Lief and Massachusetts even though Udall is male. Never had I once even considered to associate pro-life voters with misogyny. Considering misogyny is one of the greatest problems in our country as I see first hand almost daily, this is a mockery of a serious issue. You can't just type people who disagree with you as mysogynists when they have a very legitimate argument on the other side of the issue that has nothing to do with suppressing women.

Ummm, that's exactly what the anti-choice movement is all about: taking power away from women and giving it to politicians who tend to be disproportionally white and male.

1. "Disproportionately"
2. Read the FULL sentence. Does it say the ISSUE has nothing to do with suppressing women? No, it says the ARGUMENT for being pro-life has nothing to do with suppressing women.
3. There's no such thing as an anti-choice movement (and if there is, they are probably HPs)
4. Abortion does nothing to do with putting males in power. Big Murkowski supporter here. Align with my beliefs and be a respectable human being. I don't care who you are - you can have my vote for a position of power.
5. Get off this forum, you JUNK POSTER. Mods please ban.
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« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2014, 10:24:41 pm »

Gardner should win this but looking at RCP it is eerily similar to the 2010 Senate race in Colorado. 2.5 average lead for Gardner with most polls having him up 2-3.
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« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2014, 10:46:36 pm »

Unfortunate that Udall was forced to run in such a misogynistic state
LOL

I take back my comment. I thought this was a parody of Lief and Massachusetts even though Udall is male. Never had I once even considered to associate pro-life voters with misogyny. Considering misogyny is one of the greatest problems in our country as I see first hand almost daily, this is a mockery of a serious issue. You can't just type people who disagree with you as mysogynists when they have a very legitimate argument on the other side of the issue that has nothing to do with suppressing women.

Ummm, that's exactly what the anti-choice movement is all about: taking power away from women and giving it to politicians who tend to be disproportionally white and male.

1. "Disproportionately"
2. Read the FULL sentence. Does it say the ISSUE has nothing to do with suppressing women? No, it says the ARGUMENT for being pro-life has nothing to do with suppressing women.
3. There's no such thing as an anti-choice movement (and if there is, they are probably HPs)
4. Abortion does nothing to do with putting males in power. Big Murkowski supporter here. Align with my beliefs and be a respectable human being. I don't care who you are - you can have my vote for a position of power.
5. Get off this forum, you JUNK POSTER. Mods please ban.

Restricting abortion is all about male power. You insult every woman in this country by denying it.
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« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2014, 11:15:10 pm »

Restricting abortion is all about male power. You insult every woman in this country by denying it.

Even though I am pro-choice, I don't think restricting abortion is about male power as much as it is about people (men and women) trying to push their religious and moral beliefs on others.

There are plenty of pro-life women who would deny abortion to other women.
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« Reply #104 on: November 03, 2014, 11:16:19 pm »

Unfortunate that Udall was forced to run in such a misogynistic state
LOL

I take back my comment. I thought this was a parody of Lief and Massachusetts even though Udall is male. Never had I once even considered to associate pro-life voters with misogyny. Considering misogyny is one of the greatest problems in our country as I see first hand almost daily, this is a mockery of a serious issue. You can't just type people who disagree with you as mysogynists when they have a very legitimate argument on the other side of the issue that has nothing to do with suppressing women.

Ummm, that's exactly what the anti-choice movement is all about: taking power away from women and giving it to politicians who tend to be disproportionally white and male.

1. "Disproportionately"
2. Read the FULL sentence. Does it say the ISSUE has nothing to do with suppressing women? No, it says the ARGUMENT for being pro-life has nothing to do with suppressing women.
3. There's no such thing as an anti-choice movement (and if there is, they are probably HPs)
4. Abortion does nothing to do with putting males in power. Big Murkowski supporter here. Align with my beliefs and be a respectable human being. I don't care who you are - you can have my vote for a position of power.
5. Get off this forum, you JUNK POSTER. Mods please ban.

Restricting abortion is all about male power. You insult every woman in this country by denying it.
There are pro-life females, in case you weren't aware.
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« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2014, 12:06:30 am »

Gardner should win this but looking at RCP it is eerily similar to the 2010 Senate race in Colorado. 2.5 average lead for Gardner with most polls having him up 2-3.

2010. Wasn't that the race with ...

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« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2014, 07:35:18 pm »

Looks like the final result will be about 49-46 Gardner. Meaning PPP once again nailed Colorado.
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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2014, 07:37:04 pm »

Looks like the final result will be about 49-46 Gardner. Meaning PPP once again nailed Colorado.

Basically nailed the governor's race as well. Very impressive.
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« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2014, 10:21:57 pm »

More like 2.5 for Gardner and 3.5 for Hick. I think Gardner was captured by the RCP average.
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« Reply #109 on: November 09, 2014, 10:52:21 pm »

More like 2.5 for Gardner and 3.5 for Hick. I think Gardner was captured by the RCP average.

Looks like the Buck effect got cancelled out by Republicans underpolling nationally to result in accurate polls in Colorado this year!
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« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2014, 11:49:21 am »

More like 2.5 for Gardner and 3.5 for Hick. I think Gardner was captured by the RCP average.

Looks like the Buck effect got cancelled out by Republicans underpolling nationally to result in accurate polls in Colorado this year!

By basically a national non-racist(but many here on atlas think it was caused by an alleged rape culture in Massachusetts and Colorado) Bradley effect.
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« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2014, 12:08:16 pm »

The weird thing is the "CO effect" did seem to happen for Hickenlooper, though.
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« Reply #112 on: November 12, 2014, 12:53:56 pm »

It's still kind of shocking how Gardner won CO without winning Denver and the suburbs.  That's never heard of before.  I believe turnout outside Denver really helped him out in the end.
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« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2014, 12:58:42 pm »
« Edited: November 12, 2014, 01:00:46 pm by Alabama Man! »

He won Larimer by 500 votes, though and the GOP turnout machine really helped in Greeley and Colorado Springs. The Democrats just didn't do a good job in Pueblo, too. If I were Bennet and Hillary, I would really be looking into turning out the vote in Pueblo and the Sangre Del Christos.

The point is that Republicans and Democrats both did fairly well this election but that the Rs are doing much better though the Ds still have much room for improvement.
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« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2014, 10:23:17 pm »

He won Larimer by 500 votes, though and the GOP turnout machine really helped in Greeley and Colorado Springs. The Democrats just didn't do a good job in Pueblo, too. If I were Bennet and Hillary, I would really be looking into turning out the vote in Pueblo and the Sangre Del Christos.

The point is that Republicans and Democrats both did fairly well this election but that the Rs are doing much better though the Ds still have much room for improvement.

Not talking about abortion 90% of the time might help turn them out.
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« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2014, 11:14:29 am »
« Edited: November 14, 2014, 11:17:17 am by Alabama Man! »

He won Larimer by 500 votes, though and the GOP turnout machine really helped in Greeley and Colorado Springs. The Democrats just didn't do a good job in Pueblo, too. If I were Bennet and Hillary, I would really be looking into turning out the vote in Pueblo and the Sangre Del Christos.

The point is that Republicans and Democrats both did fairly well this election but that the Rs are doing much better though the Ds still have much room for improvement.

Not talking about abortion 90% of the time might help turn them out.

I'd imagine that to be the case, too. Its a tough like to walk. You can't just give up on the issue but you can't run on it. That's true for Republicans, too. No one can run as the abortion monster whether you running as "if you have sex, you should immediately expect to be a parent" or "fetuses are  temporary female organs that become a person once they are born ". 
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