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This is a deeply relevant quote to our present times, in which property-based suffrage is widespread.

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Guys, CrabCake is right on this issue. Like he said, "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" could describe anybody from Gary Johnson to Michael Bloomberg. If that doesn't convince you the term is meaningless bullsh**t, I don't know what will...

I mean, on one end of that phrase, you have WalterMitty, who said he'd support Rick Santorum in the 2006 senate race for God's sake. On the other end, pre-socialism Mechaman. Pretty wide range.

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There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public.  The courts have long confirmed this.  Therefore, we don't have the right to cover our faces in public.

Your courts aren't my courts, so...

...also what DC said is precisely my point. A free society would not be policing what articles of clothing people choose to wear.

Except it does already.

Western Europe may be democratic, but I wouldn't call it a "free society."

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Western Europe may be democratic, but I wouldn't call it a "free society."

I'm afraid you're mistaken, this isn't the bad posts thread.

Have a sense of irony, sarcasm, and/or humor, comrade! I'm not going to turn this into a doctoral thesis on my displeasure at most, if not all, human societies. And who the heck said freedom was good? Have you ever been to America?

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The mental age of this forum keeps regressing, I see.

Due to your return, no doubt.

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I should know better than responding, and hopefully this new avalanche of mass stupidity will accelerate my phasing out from this rotting carcass of a forum aside from the international elections (and possibly demographics) board, but I guess I'll just put this out there.

You're being incredibly hostile right now.

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Hahaha. No.

You're right. Some people are so evil that they are beyond redemption. I highly doubt Ted Cruz is ever able to redeem himself.

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Those token racists that voted in the Democratic primaries will back a Republican (or some fuitcake far right third party candidate) in November anyway.  They would never really support a Jewish socialist nor a woman that served in the Black President's cabinet.

The point is that Sanders won Clinton '08 areas and Clinton won Obama '08 areas in Oklahoma this year. It advances a thesis that alienated, white conservadems support Sanders over Clinton. Maybe it's not that widespread of a phenomenon, but it is interesting to contemplate. I know a number of conservative males who prefer Sanders over Hillary for obvious reasons, but those are also guys that wouldn't have voted Democratic anyway. Nevertheless, for a low information voter, especially male, who sees Clinton as associated with the Obama administration, voting against her and for someone that they hear wants to stick it to the big banks isn't an entirely implausible phenomenon. Recall that in 2008 it was Obama who was coming for your guns and your religion, so they said; this year, it's Hillary.

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It was funny the first two times, now it's getting scary. Anthony Weiner should abandon his political ambitions and consider becoming a character actor who plays creepy perverts on cable shows.

For example: "On tonight's Law and Order SVU, Anthony Weiner plays an elusive and violent subway flasher who's attacks are escalating as Benson tries desperately to capture him in a twisted game of cat and mouse that winds through the halls of the Capitol itself."

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Not hurting anybody = OK with me is the worst thing that ever happened in this country.

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>2016
>still think libertarians exist

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Take a club to the machines and rip up all trade deals.

Basically this (although maybe not rip up all the trade deals).

This is non-negotiable. We must achieve autarky.

     I suspect you're right on this. If other countries have replaced their workers with machines and we've chosen the path of frame-smashing, I'm not sure how we could compete with them in terms of trade. At that point, automation will have proven cheaper than traditional labor.

Automation is the final stage of the ritual sacrifice of human dignity that has been taking place in the west for fifty years. UBI would keep the victims alive but they would be reduced to an impoverished and alienated consumer class. Anything that can be done to stop it must be done. Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

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Of course "competence" and managerialism is itself an appeal to a different form of ideology.  

EDIT: Ah, I see Anthony already made my point.

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So we're at 2 pages now of nothing but paragraphs and paragraphs of text out of line with the thread topic.

Welcome to Atlas.

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There is no such thing as "Russia", they are just imperialist Muscovite colonists.

A friend of a friend is a Ukrainian-Canadian girl who genuinely believes this. You wouldn't like her. She's culturally Ukrainian Orthodox and goes to Ukrainian culture festivals.

"There is no such thing as 'America', they are just imperialist European colonists."

Uh, okay, sure. What does believing that even mean, beyond the obvious? People move, people conquer, nations grow and shrink and change. If this is true, then one might as well assert that there are no nations, or countries, at all.

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I'd submit that suburban and small-city voters who identify themselves with classically "rural" attitudes and economic/cultural interests make up a sizable chunk of the electorate, even though "rural voters" proper don't.

Needed to be said.

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2000 years ago, a man was crucified in a far province of the Roman Empire, and he was resurrected after 3 days. Maybe, the scientists of that time already knew this method, and their knowledge was forgotten.

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Socialism is value-neutral and, in some cases, can even be used to advance conservative causes whereas the kind of politics espoused by SJWs seeks explicitly to erode tradition and undermine authority.

Authority has nothing to do with conservatism (indeed, it is usually an enemy of it) and tradition is good for conservatives only in the sense that it usually supports their endeavors; in cases where it does not (such as countries that have long-established strong welfare states, for instance) it is "value-neutral", as you say, or can sometimes even work against real conservatism.

Respect for lawful authority and deference to tradition are inseparable from even the loosest conception of conservatism; that they do not factor into your ideology of Manchester liberalism is neither here nor there.

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Truer words have seldom been spoken.

I'll give you one last tip spark. Stop being yourself. Being yourself is not a good thing in life, always try to be a better version of yourself, this includes taking into account societal norms. Taking into account norms means you consider how your actions make others feel. It's not conformity, it's being a polite person.

I've never identified well with the "be yourself" crowd. Do you want 7 billion ids walking around this planet!?

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Fascinating.

I won't believe that lady say he sex with her.she only money!!!!.
after he got senile, these women came out of the woodwork

I believe he was trying to buy a Tv station or something...just another lynchings....if I can't hang you black man..,I'll take your money in court, your reputation and maybe try and put you in jail...but I will tear you down....our country is still very sad in many ways.
this mess is so full of racism and is definitely bias...cant wait until the name behind this mess comes forward....oh what a web we weave..when we practice to deceive....smh


For the record the first two are from conservative pages and the last two are from liberal pages. In the ever so poignant words of Atlas, Both Sides Do It, and in the ever so poignant words of our President, Somebody is doing the raping.

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I find it funny how grown ass adults are not to be given any personal responsibility for their sh*t voting. Hillary coming on the stump repeating the same stuff you heard her say on tv would have made you vote for her? LOL. No. You knew what both candidates were about and made your decision to vote or not vote accordingly.

Ah yes, the good old "personal responsibility" line. Because when people buy into a fraud, it's obviously their fault...right...? Totally not the scammer's fault...

This further strengthens a major suspicion of mine; that at least some staunch Clintonites are, philosophically speaking, more in line with conservatives than progressives. You can see this in the way that they write off the white working class as "racist trailer trash" or whatever.

I'm not suggesting that every Trump voter is blameless, but rather that it isn't this black-and-white, and that this method of thinking is largely conservative.

Well, duh.

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There is no logical reason to argue that alcohol or tobacco taxes are good but soda taxes are not.

Alcohol is much worse than Soda

This highlights our need for a "Lame As " thread.

Tom RINO finally earns his place in this thread!

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Ohio also wants to ban many forms of birth control, including The Pill.

https://twitter.com/innovationohio/status/1126096661124657152

Do people not realize how illogical it is to be against abortion and against birth control at the same time? how dumb can you be.

Glaring cognitive bias alert.

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Ohio also wants to ban many forms of birth control, including The Pill.

https://twitter.com/innovationohio/status/1126096661124657152

Do people not realize how illogical it is to be against abortion and against birth control at the same time? how dumb can you be.

Glaring cognitive bias alert.

Could you please elaborate?  I mean, greater access to affordable and effective birth control is objectively the most effective way to reduce the number of abortions.

Someone to my right feel free to correct me, but here goes:

The true believers, conservative church goers, have a set of goals for society (whether moral or political) that views unmarried sex as fornication and may view birth control as something as bad as abortion; I believe some have articulated a distinction between two different forms of birth control, but I don’t know enough about the practice to say wherw they’d draw the line. The vision you articulate is one where they choose between a variety of undesired options that may not necessarily be that different from one another. Impractical? Perhaps. Illogical? That’s relative.