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Barnes
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« on: January 03, 2015, 07:47:10 PM »

As far as dates go, electorates become increasingly angry the longer politicians put off the "verdict of the people."  The LNP seems to be insisting that they're under no obligation to hold the election before June (which is true, of course), but if they continue to hold that line it'll begin to look increasingly desperate to many voters.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 05:00:16 PM »

Didn't really see this coming, but it'll be fun to have this campaign to follow if this goes through.

Yeah, Labor should have everything ready to go for an election in 2015 whenever it was called.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 06:02:39 PM »

The date has been confirmed for 31 January: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-election-to-be-held-on-january-31-20150105-12iduw.html

Newman will meet with the Acting Governor mid-Tuesday, and make an official announcement afterwards.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 06:31:25 PM »

Per the article in The Brisbane Times:

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As an early guess, I think the LNP will be returned with a majority between 10 to 15; I'm almost certain that Newman in a goner in Ashgrove.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 01:07:24 AM »

The ABC's site for the Queensland election (run by the great psephologist Antony Green) is up and running: http://www.abc.net.au/news/qld-election-2015/guide/

An election calculator (which should be quite a bit of fun) will be up later this week.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 04:07:06 PM »

As an aside, Katter's party admitted it wasn't ready for the election and would try to run as many candidates as it can.  It should be rather amusing to watch them crash.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 08:22:00 PM »

This brings up an interesting discussion about the minor parties. How do you guys think the crossbench (KAP, PUP, inds, etc) will look following the election?
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 08:54:52 PM »
« Edited: January 06, 2015, 09:10:38 PM by Barnes »

I agree that there should be a pretty considerable protest vote, whether or not it's rightly deserved. Beyond my own political persuasion, I can understand why a lot of people wonder why Labor should be returned to government after being so totally decimated just two and a half years ago. That said, the protest voters don't really have a united front to go to, so their effect will be unevenly distributed and, like Polnit said, have unpredictable results.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 06:20:00 PM »

Antony Green's Legislative Assembly calculator is up and running - start swinging, everyone! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2015, 10:20:18 PM »

BTW, earlier today Deputy Labor Leader and member for Mackay, Tim Mulherin, announced his retirement.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2015, 11:15:06 PM »

BTW, earlier today Deputy Labor Leader and member for Mackay, Tim Mulherin, announced his retirement.

They have to be incredibly confident for that to have happened...

It struck me as odd as well, but apparently Mulherin has been considering retiring for a long while and the early election forced his hand.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2015, 11:28:54 PM »

BTW, earlier today Deputy Labor Leader and member for Mackay, Tim Mulherin, announced his retirement.

They have to be incredibly confident for that to have happened...

It struck me as odd as well, but apparently Mulherin has been considering retiring for a long while and the early election forced his hand.

His father passed away late last year, and he's taking care of his mother while holding off cardiac surgery.

The seat I am most interested in (besides Ashgrove Tongue) is Cook in the Cape York peninsula. It's a traditionally Labor seat (held by Labor even during the Bjelke-Peterson years)  and the LNP only has a 3.43% margin. However, I read that some polling has shown the LNP leading in the seat due to the popularity of the local member combined with a limited swing to Labor in the Far North overall. Yet on paper, it seems like it should be an easy Labor gain, and the Labor candidate is indigenous, which should help with the huge native vote in the seat.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Ah, I see, quite understandable then.  I haven't really picked seats to watch yet (besides the obvious Ashgrove Wink), but I'll do a little post when I have.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2015, 11:52:54 PM »

I'll keep an eye on:

- Mackay: For the above mentioned reasons as well it being Labor's most marginal seat, which isn't much, to be honest
- Whitsunday: If Labor gets a uniform swing large enough to take this one (roughly 11%), the LNP looses their majority.
- Mirani: Same as Whitsunday
- Murramba: A uniform swing to the ALP to take this seat (about 9.5%) would leave the LNP within my range on a predicted majority, so I have a real interest in this one! Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2015, 12:03:16 AM »

Playing with the ABC calculator, it has occurred to me that there is a very good chance we might not have a government on election night. KAP and the independents will hold the balance of power, which isn't the most comforting thought.

That would be rather unfortunate, but I think the swing required for a hung parliament is outside of the current state of the race.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2015, 04:24:45 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2015, 07:56:41 PM by Barnes »


That would produce an Assembly roughly like this:
LNP: 45
ALP: 39
Others: 5

Of course, as with any swing, this assumes uniformity, but it would be quite an impressive comeback for Labor.
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2015, 04:30:18 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2015, 05:15:22 PM by Barnes »

@Sol, the Newman government and the Abbott government is toxic leaving a very bad condition for the LNP. Also a lot of LNP seats - after the wipeout of 2011 - they really have no business holding, and would probably be lose even if the government was reasonably popular.

Australia has its "right-wing" and "left-wing" states, but unlike the US all of them are competitive at state level.

Ahh, okay. What has the Newman government done so wrong?
They have governed in a very...aggressive style? Basically they have had a lot of controversial polices and haven't been afraid to fight for them.

There's a lot of policy that we can hash through, but the main point is that the governmemt has been particularly aggressive about implementing its policies, and unapologetically so, really turning a lot of people away from them.

That, combined with the fact that the 2012 landslide could not possibly be repeated in the score of Labor seats the government holds, gives Labor the hope of making a dramatic comeback. Which really means reforming into a large opposition - not winning governemnt.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015, 06:16:23 PM »

This should be quite a fun election night. I look forward to the contributions in here. Cheesy

Final Prediction

2PP:
LNP - 52%
ALP - 48%

Seats:
LNP - 46
ALP - 38
Others - 5

Newman is a goner, it appears. That alone will make this a good night.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2015, 09:20:36 PM »

Newman to lose Ashgrove  52.7-47.3

Final prediction shortly... ugh, this is really tricky.

I agree. Admittedly, I'm not familiar enough with the individual electorates to make a full prediction, so I relied on the ABC's calculator for the seat totals. I think if the LNP stays in on my projected totals, they might have a slightly higher seat count.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2015, 02:58:21 AM »

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

Hopefully, they will make this internationally available in a few minutes.

Alternatively, you can listen to the ABC Radio coverage: http://www.abc.net.au/radio/player/beta/#live/local_brisbane
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2015, 03:14:38 AM »

Apparently the ALP's internals were showing numbers similar to the exit poll, so it appears that it's not a total aberration.  Should be interesting!
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2015, 04:15:37 AM »

Never really a surprise, but Ashgrove's gone.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2015, 04:25:23 AM »

This is absolutely astonishing.  The LNP made history in 2012, but for Labor to come back at this margin from just 7 seats at that last election is something entirely more remarkable.
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Barnes
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2015, 04:30:15 AM »

#AnnastaciaForPM

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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2015, 04:50:53 AM »

Hold your breath, but the projected seats are 44-34 Labor.
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Barnes
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2015, 04:57:06 AM »

Antony's computer is predicting 46 for the ALP. But it will come down to the postals

Those are being counted tomorrow, correct?
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