Liberal Places/Conservative Places

[nclib]

Flint is populist (very poor, very rundown, very leftwing)

Flint is very left-wing economically (and 83% for Gore in 2000), but socially moderate. Other cities like this are Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee...

[nclib]

Liberal First...
San Fransisco CA,
Takoma Park MD,
Madison WI,
Key West FL,
Seattle WA,
Burlington VT,
Boulder CO,
Boston MA,
Eugene OR,
Albany NY,

N.Y.C.
L. A.
Chicago
Philly
Austin (TX)
Washington, DC
Denver
Portland (OR)
Berkeley (CA)
Oakland (CA)
New Haven (CT)
Minneapolis...

Minneapolis is an unusual case--it has large proportions of both feminist activists and pro-life activists.

Conservative...
Colorado Springs CO,
Tulsa OK,
Wichita KS,
Dallas TX,
Phoenix AZ,
Provo UT,
Waco TX,
Jackson MS,
Houston TX,
Midland TX,
Oklahoma City OK,

Think of anymore?

Charlotte, NC
Salt Lake City, UT
College Station, TX
Lubbock, TX
Colo. Springs, CO
Grand Rapids, MI

[nclib]

Liberal - Chapel Hill, NC

I spent most of my childhood there, and would agree that Chapel Hill is liberal.

These days, central city Cincinnati (and Covington and Newport) is not very conservative compared to the rest of America. But when you get out into the suburbs, look out!

Let me tell ya, there's some conservative stuff going on in the suburbs!

I've been to Cincinnati several times and my aunt lives there and I would certainly consider it conservative for a big city. Gore did win 60% there, but that isn't that impressive given that blacks are 43% of the population. The city certainly has bad racial problems. At a time, the black percentage was 38% but the public schools were 65% black; I guess many of the whites are sending their kids to private schools.

[angus]

Oakland (CA)

yo mang, whatup

west coast in tha house

why y'all always be callin us liberal



Berkeley?   Yeah, that's a socialist's nearest port in a storm for sure.  Not quite cambridge, not even, but definitely liberal in the classic sense.  Primo weed around berkeley, too.  On economics and socioeconomics, they're downright authoritarian.  make no mistake about that.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Flint is populist (very poor, very rundown, very leftwing)

Flint is very left-wing economically (and 83% for Gore in 2000), but socially moderate. Other cities like this are Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee...

Rustbelt populism

[TeePee4Prez]

New York is very much like Boston, but with a broader ethnic base and greater geographical area.  People of Italian descent in New York probably occupy a position similar to the Irish-decended people in Boston.

I'm convinced that the reaction to busing in Boston is one reason it was never brought to New York, where it would have been greeted in a similar manner.  New York continues to maintain a system of neighborhood schools, basically, for the lower grades, and schools in outlying white areas remain predominantly white, despite the overwhelming minority composition of the system as a whole.  High schools cover wider areas of mixed ethnicity, but most upwardly mobile white, black and Puerto Rican parents etiher remove their kids from public school at this point or get them into the system of admission-based high schools, leaving the neighborhood or zoned high schools for the most poorly performing students.

Lower middle class and middle class whites in the outer boroughs of the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island remain strongly anti-black in general because they fear that the problems of adjoining black neighborhoods will penetrate their neighborhoods, and they can't afford to move in that event.  Social liberalism is more prevalent among rich Manhattanites who can afford to indulge the fantasies of social liberalism secure in the knowledge that they can buy their way out of the grim realities that it produces.

I have also noticed that upwardly mobile Puerto Ricans in New York are becoming anti-black, and are much more vocal about saying so than white people.  Puerto Ricans who have been successful tend to be social conservatives also, believing strongly in family and religion, and opposed to abortion, etc.

I don't favor forced integration because I think it reinforces racial labeling and gives it more importance than it deserves.  People should be judged their behavior, not their ethnic background.  If kids are unable to get a good education in their neighborhood schools, then we ought to be asking why, and fixing that problem, rather than attempting to avoid it by moving kids around.  It failed miserably in Boston and every other place it was tried.  Even most blacks don't want busing any more.

Philly is pretty split too.  Center City and Manayunk are yuppie liberal most will vote Dem, some will go Rep. North and West Philly are black liberal and will almost always vote Dem even for Street 'ugh'.  Northeast and South Philly are a microcosm of "rustbelt populism", but not as economically liberal or socially conservative.  They will tilt Dem in national elections, but almost always vote Street and cronies out!  Suburbs are socially liberal to moderate, economic moderate to conservative.  They were once GOP stongholds now turning Dem.

[ilikeverin]

Minneapolis...

Minneapolis is an unusual case--it has large proportions of both feminist activists and pro-life activists.

We have many protests on both sides of a lot of issues... the War on Iraq, Abortion, Gay Rights...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

[nclib]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Chicago, IL

The ethnic communities in Chicago's Northwest and Southwest side are populist, but neighborhoods near the Lake and downtown are socially liberal.

[nclib]

Minneapolis...

Minneapolis is an unusual case--it has large proportions of both feminist activists and pro-life activists.

We have many protests on both sides of a lot of issues... the War on Iraq, Abortion, Gay Rights...

So, all in all, would you say that Minneapolis leans left?

[© tweed]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

Little Rock?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Chicago, IL

The ethnic communities in Chicago's Northwest and Southwest side are populist, but neighborhoods near the Lake and downtown are socially liberal.

True, but overall it's populist

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

Little Rock?

Yeah... Little Rock as well.
More:

Charleston, WV
Wheeling, WV
Beckley, WV
Scranton, PA
Wilkes-Barr, PA

[ilikeverin]

Minneapolis...

Minneapolis is an unusual case--it has large proportions of both feminist activists and pro-life activists.

We have many protests on both sides of a lot of issues... the War on Iraq, Abortion, Gay Rights...

So, all in all, would you say that Minneapolis leans left?

Yes.  I think they truck in the pro-lifers from rural areas or something.  Maybe the 'burbs... (feels ashamed)

[nclib]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

Little Rock?

Memphis ?
New Orleans ?
Youngstown, OH ?
Akron, OH ?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

Little Rock?

Memphis ??
New Orleans ??

Yeah... Memphis is probably more racially divided than Birmingham, BTW...

[nclib]

How about populist cities:

Populist Cities

Pittsburgh, PA
Buffalo, NY
Chicago, IL
Detroit, MI
Flint, MI
Birmingham, AL

Lots more though

Little Rock?

Yeah... Little Rock as well.
More:

Charleston, WV
Wheeling, WV
Beckley, WV
Scranton, PA
Wilkes-Barr, PA

Erie, PA ?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

more populist cities:

Duluth, MN
St. Cloud, MN
Sioux City, IA
St. Louis, MO
Eau Claire, WI

how about anti-populist cities/areas then? (the exact opposite of populist)

Bloomington, MN
Las Vegas, NV
Phoenix, AZ
Long Island, NY
North NJ
San Diego, CA
Manchester, NH
Bridgeport, CT

also note, conservatives in Minneapolis are VERY rare species. All rightwing protesters there come from the rural western parts and outer suburbs. Whenever I drive there, I refuse to even stop for gas until I hit Bloomington because I loathe the outer suburbs so much.

[ilikeverin]

also note, conservatives in Minneapolis are VERY rare species. All rightwing protesters there come from the rural western parts and outer suburbs. Whenever I drive there, I refuse to even stop for gas until I hit Bloomington because I loathe the outer suburbs so much.

Sorry

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

also note, conservatives in Minneapolis are VERY rare species. All rightwing protesters there come from the rural western parts and outer suburbs. Whenever I drive there, I refuse to even stop for gas until I hit Bloomington because I loathe the outer suburbs so much.

Sorry

where do you live exactly? I only go through the southwestern part (Scott county), never the northwest. Either way if I lived there I would definately move to the cities or a more liberal place like here (Mankato)

[ilikeverin]

also note, conservatives in Minneapolis are VERY rare species. All rightwing protesters there come from the rural western parts and outer suburbs. Whenever I drive there, I refuse to even stop for gas until I hit Bloomington because I loathe the outer suburbs so much.

Sorry

where do you live exactly? I only go through the southwestern part (Scott county), never the northwest. Either way if I lived there I would definately move to the cities or a more liberal place like here (Mankato)

I live in the NW suburbs, but seing that I am 13 years old I have no choice

The good thing, though, is that I'm in a really good school system becasue of all of the rich people here!

[PBrunsel]

Conservative:
Bettendorf, Iowa
West Branch, Iowa

Liberal:
Iowa City, Iowa
Davenport, Iowa

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The epitome of conservative:

Alexandria, KY

[klrbzzz]

These days, central city Cincinnati (and Covington and Newport) is not very conservative compared to the rest of America. But when you get out into the suburbs, look out!

Let me tell ya, there's some conservative stuff going on in the suburbs!

It's amazing what a difference 5 miles makes!!! N. Kentucky (minus Newport and Covington), and Omaha, ultra-conservative, Palm Beach and Broward counties FL, liberal.  The city of Houston is more moderate than conservative.

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how about anti-populist cities/areas then? (the exact opposite of populist)

Bloomington, MN
Las Vegas, NV
Phoenix, AZ
Long Island, NY
North NJ
San Diego, CA
Manchester, NH
Bridgeport, CT

Orlando, FL ?