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« Reply #100 on: May 02, 2018, 08:00:37 am »

How is Colau seen nowadays anyway? I liked her when she came in, but I haven't really caught up with her beyond her getting twisted in knots due to flegs.
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« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2018, 08:00:49 am »

Worth noting that Fidesz itself started a liberal group of students (funded by Soros, no less) before it took the reigns of power.
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« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2018, 09:12:01 am »

Astonishing that Rajoy lasted so long, despite seemingly never being hugely popular and walking through several crises/scandals that would have caused most leaders to be overthrown several times over.
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« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2018, 11:17:17 am »

Will he resign as PP leader as well?
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« Reply #104 on: June 04, 2018, 01:20:33 pm »

Will Sanchez tackle constitutional reform?

What are the people's thoughts here about federalising Spain as a solution to the Catalonian Problem?
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« Reply #105 on: June 04, 2018, 01:29:33 pm »

Will Sanchez tackle constitutional reform?

What are the people's thoughts here about federalising Spain as a solution to the Catalonian Problem?

This government probably can't hope to pass the 2019 budget, and you think constitutional reform is on the cards? Sanchez wants to win the inevitable upcoming elections and end up forming a PSOE-C's collation (Podemos is too far back) - not rock the boat and switch the roles around.

Besides, PP still controls the senate.

Probably not, but you could start rolling out ideas before the government's inevitable collapse; it would help if the government doesn't just punt on these important issues. Maybe what Spain needs is an Iceland style constitutional assembly (ignore the fact that that ended up scrapped by the PP and IP) or whatever.
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« Reply #106 on: July 19, 2018, 11:07:01 am »

It's tragic that there's a majority for the left in Catalonia, but they can't enter government together cause of the separatist issue.
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« Reply #107 on: July 19, 2018, 02:15:48 pm »

It's tragic that there's a majority for the left in Catalonia, but they can't enter government together cause of the separatist issue.

There isn't one. Cs+JxCat have a majority as of now (70/135 seats). Of course such a coalition is impossible but still.

I meant in the poll that Velasco just posted, where (by my count) ERC-PSC-CeC-CUP have a majority.
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« Reply #108 on: December 02, 2018, 04:04:45 pm »

Did the Vox break through with working class voters?
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« Reply #109 on: December 02, 2018, 06:15:27 pm »
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Yet another depressing election result.

Has there literally been any good election this decade for left wing parties in Europe?

Andalucia in 2011? Wouldn't say that was a "good" result, exactly, but part of the reason why this is grim to ponder is due to the fact that the left has always been dominant in Andalucia. IIRC, in 2011, PSOE held its ground in surprising fashion when many had written them off.

PSOE is in government at the national level now so this was always a possibility. It feels worse because Vox did very well but, again, as I mentioned to Tender, people are ignoring C's for some reason. As a matter of fact, that party is very extreme but it's easy to see why many PSOE voters would feel comfortable voting for the C's, as they're not a traditional party of the right and have fewer connotations with the wrong side of the Spanish Civil War.

The problem is that the Cs will almost certainly go with PP + Vox over PSOE + AA because centrists will always take the side of the right wing over the side of the left wing.

In all fairness, C's are not really comparable to the centrists they bear a superficial similarity with (your NEOS's/Radikale Venstres/En Marches/d66s etc). They have always had a vaguely populist feel to them, stemming from their origins in Castillian nationalism. (Although I gather their electorate is more ideologically heterogeneous)
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« Reply #110 on: December 03, 2018, 11:21:06 am »

Are we really complaining about a fascist's grave being desecrated?
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« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2018, 03:13:04 pm »

So obviously this is bad for Sanchez, but isn't even in worse for his enemies within the party? What power do Diaz and her lieutenants have without their control of the south?
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« Reply #112 on: December 03, 2018, 05:56:59 pm »

Hasn't the pattern of recent Austrian and German elections been that AFD and FPO have done well in poorer areas?  I do recall that Hofer defeated Van der Bellen in the blue collar electorate by something like 9 to 1, at least among men, that of course being a two way race.

Yes, but no two countries are the same: In Austria, you have a party with very well established roots in working class areas opposing a candidate that was literally the embodiment of the urban elite; whereas Vox is (at present) heavily associated with ultra conservative factions of the PP and the old Francoist elite.
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« Reply #113 on: December 04, 2018, 09:43:27 am »

Just remembered that in 2019, my fave Ada Colau will be sacrificed on the alter of nationalism.
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« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2018, 05:34:40 pm »

Pretty funny how much the PSOE's strategy of hyping up Vox to create discord in the right have backfired huge on them. Feel bad for Sanchez, but glad the barons will end up in prison.
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« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2018, 05:03:11 pm »

I always viewed Jesus Gil as a more Berlusconian figure than a true hard rightist. (Actually, it's worth asking: did Marbella have a decent Vox vote?)
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