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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 06:10:02 am »

Do the ERC and CUP want a greater Catalonia (with the Balearics, Valencia etc) or do they recognise that as impronable.
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 01:16:37 pm »

Yes, I don't think Artur Mas will go the way of poor Lluis Companys
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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2015, 05:51:19 am »

Wait, are Convergence and Union still running in the general?
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2015, 12:14:42 pm »

A unilateral Catatalan withdrawal would probably be a boon (electorally) to the PP, IMO.
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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2015, 01:49:15 pm »

Whatever happened to Catalan Solidarity for Independence?
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« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2015, 09:00:33 am »

So, Catalonia. What happens? Will the ERC/CDC alliance continue? Will they bother to take their seats or will they do Sinn Fein? Will Catalonia make moves towards independence between now and the election?
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2015, 03:32:45 pm »

How efficient is the renovating IU vote? Is it diffuse or concentrated to a few odd provinces?

Also will the parties in Catalonia be the same as what was in the provincial election (I.e. CDC + ERC and Podemos+Greens+IU)?
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2015, 07:03:13 am »

lmao, that's amazing
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2015, 08:51:35 am »

Wow, the tomato salesmen are going to regret not bundling their wares with the aubergines. RIP TOMATOES

seriously though, did Riviera kill a puppy or something?
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2015, 09:27:43 am »

The fact that the anti-PP vote is so divided pretty much assures the PP control of the Senate, right?
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2015, 03:29:42 pm »

Could the Alliance Party of NI count?
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« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2015, 12:13:14 am »
« Edited: December 18, 2015, 12:16:24 am by CrabCake the Liberal Magician »

Though, it does seem to be up to the regional groups to make coalitions or not. The Catalan and Gallican branches of IU have joined the Podemos front groups.

MEANWHILE  Rajoy's attacker seems to be a relative of his wife. Some kind of domestic squabble?
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« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2015, 12:18:58 am »
« Edited: December 18, 2015, 12:30:03 am by CrabCake the Liberal Magician »

lol what is this:

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I love Spain, I really do; but it really has a weird attitude sometimes.
Meanwhile:

C's candidate in Cantabria proclaims that "abortion is a form of violence". Ok then.

Rajoy's marvelous response when asked about corruption allegations :  "What does that have to do with the economy?" Indeed.

My MP apparently made a deep observation about Spanish politics to a journalist: "When Nick Clegg saw the documents, he told me Cameron [] would only have lasted 'a few hours' after the publication of something that big", he writes: "But in Spain, British or North American democratic habits are conspicuously absent".

PP targets .... hipsters? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=W_VQbsuRXl4

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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2015, 09:22:53 am »

Could an Orange is the New Blue coalition push out Rajoy in favour of a more palatable PM? (Santamaria?)
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2015, 09:02:02 am »

What are the main party pledges/platforms?
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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2015, 10:43:09 am »

I'm not going to predict seats or anything, but I will say:

Orange-flavoured water coalition. Aubergines more popular than strawberries. Tomatoes disappear in the mixed group. UpyD get below the animal rights party. ERC randomly beats CDC in Catalonia, with Cataln strawberries and water in single digits. Christ knows what happens in Basque areas, but I'm going to say Podemos beat Bildu for second. Podemos win Valencia. Madrid is C's second best area. Andulacia held by PSOE.

Then C's undergo a Lib Dem like collapse while in government and are outfoxed by PP in every relevant way. Rajoy and Rivera spectacularly mishandle Catalonia, and it slips away before the next election. I assume they will also (somehow) alienate every other vaguely powerful nationalist as well with their heavy handedness (Basques and Galica have elections next year, I see Smiley ). Podemos experiences a leftist revolt against Pablo (possibly involving the radical mayors?), and are quashed. PSOE undergoes sould-searching and chaos, and the Australasian Premier replaces Sanchez. All remaining talent in IU and their regional parties jump to Podemos led front groups.
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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2015, 04:02:29 pm »

What is CATSI? (As in, ERC-CATSI?)
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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2015, 04:08:41 pm »

If it's dependent on regional parties, C's will never be part of the government.
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2015, 04:14:03 pm »

To be fair, PP are running common lists with regionalismts in Aragorn, Asturias and Navarre.

Why has Artur Mas's party flopped so badly?

IU are commies, clyde
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2015, 04:24:26 pm »

Any chance of a PSOE/Posemos/C government with PP in opposition?

It would put C's in a tight spot. (well any government would put C's in a tight spot, considering they are a transparently vacant party) PODEMOS support a referendum in Catalonia, which C's oppose under all circumstances.

I've gotta admit a lot of my predictions were right, but the closeness still surprises me. Perhaps Sanchez will be PM, although I doubt he will be for very long.

It seems the key is DL/PNV IMO. I wonder what demands they will make of the government?
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2015, 04:29:30 pm »

Wow El Pais wbsite gives results down to municipality. that's hot as fyck
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2015, 04:38:19 pm »

Why is the Senate election producing a PP majority, with Podemos and C's getting next to nothing?

demented bloc voting system. It mainly is a problem if the parties wanted to jig the constitution (like, for instance, changing the demented voting system or abolishing the useless upper house, which is worthless even by other nation's upper house's standards. Bicameralism is a plague.)

(also for some reason, only 10% of the Senate votes have been counted, while 80% of the lower house has)

That map on El Pais looks bad. Why people do such things. Worse than UK map made from hexes on BBC as far as I remember.

graphic designers need work, i guess.
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2015, 05:04:07 pm »
« Edited: December 20, 2015, 05:05:39 pm by CrabCake the Liberal Magician »

Well, if we follow from the elections in May, C's are more likely to support PP governments' and C's agenda (heavy income and corporate tax cuts; municipal reduction; Austrian labour laws etc.) would be very hard to implement with PSOE and PODEMOS as partners ...
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2015, 05:22:32 pm »

I bet KIng Felipe is dreading the next two months ...
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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2015, 05:51:10 pm »

What are the Basques Nationalists main aims? I find it very odd how quiet the Basque areas have been irt the looming breakup of the Spanish state...
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