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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2015, 06:05:44 pm »

What are the Basques Nationalists main aims? I find it very odd how quiet the Basque areas have been irt the looming breakup of the Spanish state...

They already fulfilled them, largely thanks to the ETA. The PNV would like a federal system that allows them to represent Basque interests only in national politics. Bildu want a socialist (or non-neoliberal) state in the same way CC and Esquerra Republicana.

As long as they keep their extra national politics, administration and policing they will be happy though.

But weren't CiU non-separatist until the economic crash? Could PNV be radiclaised by am Artur Mas like figure?

Are Coalico Compromis separatists? They are on a list with PODEMOS, so I assumed they were more soft nationalists.
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« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2015, 08:29:40 am »

The pro-reform agenda should run on a common list in the senate, under the explicit pledge of abolishing the damn thing.
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« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2015, 09:34:06 am »

What are the main ideas irt electoral reform from C's, podemos etc?

The Senate is needed to amend the constitution, appoint certain officials, and has a lot of theoretical power over regional relations.
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« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2015, 01:09:54 pm »

Lewis found a good oddiry in Tarragona, a six seater.

Podemos 21, ERC 17, PSOE 16, DL 15, C's 14, PP 12.

And yes, that works out as all six getting one seat each. A very peculiar result.
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« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2015, 08:46:18 pm »

I find the one of the more interesting regional oddity is C's pathetic result in its home region.
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« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2015, 04:33:14 am »

Yes, Sanchez; definitely listed to Felipe "Corruption" Gonzlez and incomptent failure Gonzales.
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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2015, 06:02:15 pm »

Lmao CuP

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-catalonia-idUKKBN0UA0NQ20151227
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« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2016, 12:28:38 pm »

The most recent poll i can find (from NYE) has very little change from the election.

I wonder why Catalunya S que es Pot is so much less popular than En Com Podem?
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« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2016, 01:13:04 pm »

Lol, imagine if Juan Carlos was still on the throne now
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« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2016, 10:19:23 am »

ERC didn't get a group?
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« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2016, 01:27:17 pm »

Is Rajoy likely to stay as leader of the PP btw?
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« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2016, 06:58:01 pm »

Has anybody used the classic "Oh, I'm really good at winning the lottery" line yet?

Also, lmao at that seating allocation. I'm guessing that was the suggestion that came after seating all the Podemos MP's in the corridor.
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« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2016, 12:35:39 pm »
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Y'know I joked about PP being a criminal enterprise masquerading as a party? I'm starting to think that wasn't hyberbole, lol.

Meanwhile in Madrid, two puppeters have been arrested for making some deranged satire involving murder, rape and the ETA, after their show was accidentally marketed to kiddies
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« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2016, 05:34:52 am »

Couldn't they keep the provinces but stick a top-up list on the top?
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« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2016, 06:04:15 am »

What are the odds of a new election?
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« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2016, 08:48:28 am »

If I was the Spanish left (or even just a "reformist") I'd muscle behind a big unity ticket just for the senate to stop PP just grabbing it by default.
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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2016, 02:37:48 pm »

If I was the Spanish left (or even just a "reformist") I'd muscle behind a big unity ticket just for the senate to stop PP just grabbing it by default.
Yeah, but there's no "Spanish left". There are "Spanish lefts", and they are somewhat drifting apart rather than coming together.

I would rather like a PSOE-Podemos-IU joint list to the fycking Senate. Given that Spanish Senate is irrelevant, an obstacle to reforms, a thorn in the side of all of us, etcetera... why lefties can't put aside their party differences in order to not give away majority to PP? Sadly, I haven't an answer for this question. There is a precedent in Catalonia, where lefitst parties (PSC, PSUC/ICV and sometimes ERC, I believe) used to run in a joint list for the Upper House called Entesa. However, in the last election En Com Podem and PSC ran their own lists.

How about a common Senate list called "Abolish the Senate"? That could be pretty popular amongst politician weary Spaniards.

Also I don't want Catalonia to break away (it seems the primary argument is that Catalans are angry about "layabout Extramadurans") but PSOE-C's-PP are being really stupid about the whole affair. It's clear a (small) majority of Catalans would vote in a referednum "No" as shown by the, err, election that was framed as a de facto indyref by ERC/CiU (until they lost, and claimed that the gerrymandered seat count was enough to be a mandate). But the STRONK STATE stubbornness of the Madrid parties means the Catalan government can just carry on with its mandateless roadmap towards independence and even posture as (relatively) organised compared to Madrid.  Madness!
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« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2016, 07:52:31 am »

Are there crosstabs in these polls? I assume that the two new parties are supported by the young, and PPSOE by the elderly?
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« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2016, 08:48:46 am »

What about the Catalonia situation?
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« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2016, 12:35:46 pm »

I can't remember - are UpyD (UtrieD, more like) bothering to run?
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« Reply #70 on: May 30, 2016, 10:41:46 am »

prediction: the only thing that will break the deadlock is Rajoy literally being arrested.
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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2016, 05:27:10 am »

Well a lot of that could be applied to the LDP in Japan or ND in Greece, and right-wing populism still exists outside those parties.
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« Reply #72 on: June 19, 2016, 07:38:24 pm »

Have any trade unions defected from PSOE to podemos?
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« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2016, 06:01:39 pm »

I still think a technocrat ia most likely. That way Rajoy can still control PP for embezzlement purposes and C's/PSOE don't get roasted alive.

Remember at some point, people like the ratings agencies and the like will start to put out warnings if yet another election is called (especially as there doesn't seem to be a huge probability that a third election will be any more stable than this one).
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« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2016, 06:04:03 pm »

I'm thinking that Podemos need to sideline Pablo Iglasias atm (Like Grillo has withdrawn from the Star Movement). Like he would still be the leader of the party, but not the candidate up for PM. Velasco any thoughts?
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