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jaichind
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« on: September 27, 2015, 07:40:49 am »

Catalonia turnout at 11am at 35% which is 5% above 2012.  Exit polls at 6pm it seems.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 01:44:56 pm »

Today's Andorran fruit prices.

Water 26.2€ (108-112)
Strawberries 21€ (83-87)
Aubergines 20.4€ (71-75)
Oranges 15.9€ (50-54)
Tomatoes 3.7€ (2-4)

Hmm.. I guess the "Orange" surge from a couple of weeks ago is subsiding.  I thought a logical outcome of what fruits would be bought would be a "Water"+"Orange" combination.  But perhaps that is in doubt now.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 04:51:37 pm »

Rajoy punched by random guy on the street. Spanish Secret Service apparently asleep at the wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3VwLjHG2LM8

I wonder how much this helps PP?
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 07:58:34 am »

Madrid (DPA) -- The northern Spanish village of Villarroya completes its voting in Sunday's parliamentary elections within a minute, before most of the country's polling stations had even opened.
There are six registered voters in the village, out of a population of six, all of whom had agreed to meet at the polls as soon as they opened, a local spokesman said.
Their action broke a 2014 record in European Parliament voting, when they needed two minutes for everyone to vote.

-> Sounds a lot like Dixville Notch, New Hampshire
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 09:31:35 am »

37% OF SPAIN ELECTORATE VOTED AS OF 2PM, PRELIMINARY DATA SHOW
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 12:35:44 pm »

 Turnout 58.3% at 6pm vs 57.7% in 2011, Govt Says
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 02:19:33 pm »

RTVe has PP + C's eight seats short of a majority

Oh dear...

Perhaps PP-Socialist grand alliance to keep out P and separatists
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 03:20:28 pm »

PSOE so far doing better than polls and exit polls,  C doing worse.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 03:25:24 pm »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?

I doubt C will join up with Podemos.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2015, 03:32:23 pm »

So far PP-C and PSOE-Podemos are exactly tied in seats at 155 ... wow
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2015, 03:33:36 pm »

32,71% counted

PP 121
PSOE 95
Podemos 54
C's 31

Should not COMPROMÍS-PODEMOS-ÉS EL MOMENT also count toward the Podemos ?
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2015, 03:34:44 pm »

 PSOE-Podemos now pulling ahead of PP-C in terms of seats
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2015, 03:40:21 pm »

Anyone have any idea why if you add up seats in

http://resultadosgenerales2015.interior.es/congreso/#/ES201512-CON-ES/ES

it comes out to 343 but there are 350 seats overall.  Are 7 reserved for various Spanish territories in other time zones ?
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2015, 03:50:07 pm »

Anyone have any idea why if you add up seats in

http://resultadosgenerales2015.interior.es/congreso/#/ES201512-CON-ES/ES

it comes out to 343 but there are 350 seats overall.  Are 7 reserved for various Spanish territories in other time zones ?

On the graphic on the top left if you put your mouse over the furthest right part of the semicircle, which is in grey, it says "7 sin asignar" which means "7 unassigned". Now I don't know why those 7 seats haven't been given to any party yet but that is what it says.

Thanks a bunch.  It seems all 7 are "assigned" now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2015, 03:53:17 pm »

Looks like PP-C is coming back a bit.  They might catch up.  It will depend on Madrid it seems.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2015, 04:01:42 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 163 PP-C 159.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2015, 04:03:22 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 161 PP-C 160 !!!
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2015, 04:04:06 pm »

Results seems to be converging toward exit polls results
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2015, 04:12:44 pm »


But if you add the 2 seats for IU - you get PSOE+Podemos+Iu at 163 - but does it actually matter at all who has more seats PP+C or PSOE+PODEMOS+IU - anyweay you slice it the balance of power is with regional partyies

Of course, although I do feel the bloc (PSOE+Podemos or PP-C) that comes ahead will have the advantage when it comes to government formation.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2015, 04:31:57 pm »
« Edited: December 20, 2015, 04:33:32 pm by jaichind »

PSOE+Podemos 162 (42.81% vote share) PP-C 160 (42.36% vote share)
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2015, 04:33:44 pm »

Why is the Senate election producing a PP majority, with Podemos and C's getting next to nothing?

Most likely FPTP
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2015, 04:35:11 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 161 PP-C 161
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2015, 04:36:29 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 160 (42.59%) PP-C 162 (42.43%)
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jaichind
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2015, 04:56:48 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 160 (42.71%) PP-C 162 (42.57%)

It is interesting how close the vote shares are as well.
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jaichind
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E: 9.03, S: -5.39

« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2015, 05:07:28 pm »

PSOE+Podemos 160 (42.71%) PP-C 162 (42.57%)

It is interesting how close the vote shares are as well.

Again, it doesn't work like that though. I thought the whole point of these elections was the end of bipartisanship. TVE are just stuck in their paradigm.

Can I also have a source where Rivera states PP is his preferred coalition partner.

Well, lets accept that it is much more likely Podemos will ally with PSOE and it is much more likely that C will ally with PP.  I am not saying it is destined to take place.
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