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Clyde1998
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« on: January 05, 2015, 05:10:59 pm »

Should this thread serve as a general Spanish election thread, including the regional and locals in May; and a potential Catalan snap election?

(also do we have polls for the regional elections?)
Catalonia (9-13 Dec - link)Sad
Podemos - 20.4%
CiU - 18.8%
ERC - 17.5%
PSC - 13.3%
PP - 10.7%
C's - 5.1%
ICV-EUiA - 4.6%
CUP - 2.7%
Others - 6.9%
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 03:08:44 pm »

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Some exit polls for Catalonia and Basque Country.
En Comu is Podemos in Catalonia, isn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 03:13:19 pm »

Podemos (or rather Podem) + Allies.
Yes . En Comu Podem is Podemos , ICV , EUiA (IU) and Barcelona en Comu.
Thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 03:16:39 pm »

Largest party in each region so far.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 03:22:40 pm »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 03:27:41 pm »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?
What do you understand?
PSOE are centre-left, Podemos are left wing and Ciudadanos are centre-left; People's Party are centre-right. The question being is it plausible that those three could do a deal with each other to keep the People's Party out.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 03:29:23 pm »

As it stands, PSOE, Podemos and Ciudadanos could form a majority collation - from what I understand all three are left of centre (Podemos being most left wing). Is this plausible though?
Ciudadanos is right of the centre and won 't support such arrangement because Podemos is in favour of holding a referendum in Catalonia.
Fair enough.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 03:36:39 pm »

PSOE-Podemos now pulling ahead of PP-C in terms of seats
Still not a majority though, some of the smaller parties may become important in determining who forms the government.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 03:40:03 pm »

Seats with count at 42.7%

PP 122, PSOE 98, Podemos 70, Ciudadanos 31, DL 9, ERC 9, PNV 6, IU 2
PSOE+Pod = 168 (8 short of majority)
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2015, 03:49:39 pm »

Anyone have any idea why if you add up seats in

http://resultadosgenerales2015.interior.es/congreso/#/ES201512-CON-ES/ES

it comes out to 343 but there are 350 seats overall.  Are 7 reserved for various Spanish territories in other time zones ?
It's gone from the graphic now, might have been an error(?)
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2015, 03:57:36 pm »

62% counted, no way. How is it possible? HOW (rhetoric question).
PP 125, PSOE 94, Podemos 62, Ciudadanos 34

Orange water up.
PP+C = 159
PSOE+Pod = 156
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2015, 04:00:52 pm »

62% counted, no way. How is it possible? HOW (rhetoric question).
PP 125, PSOE 94, Podemos 62, Ciudadanos 34

Orange water up.
PP+C = 159
PSOE+Pod = 156

Podemos has 69 not 62.
That would put PSOE+Podemos at 163.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2015, 04:13:48 pm »

From the Spanish TV network:
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Who are IU-UP?
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2015, 04:15:58 pm »

To be fair, PP are running common lists with regionalismts in Aragorn, Asturias and Navarre.

Why has Artur Mas's party flopped so badly?

IU are commies, clyde
Thanks.

Possibly ERC haven't done so well, as the pro-independence Catalans are putting their support being Podemos in the hope of getting a referendum?
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2015, 04:26:01 pm »

To be fair, PP are running common lists with regionalismts in Aragorn, Asturias and Navarre.

Why has Artur Mas's party flopped so badly?

IU are commies, clyde
Thanks.

Possibly ERC haven't done so well, as the pro-independence Catalans are putting their support being Podemos in the hope of getting a referendum?

ERC is not Mas' party.  That would be DiL.
Just checked Mas's CDC is part of the DiL alliance (as you say), which is where I got muddled.
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2015, 04:33:16 pm »

Why is the Senate election producing a PP majority, with Podemos and C's getting next to nothing?
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2015, 04:36:36 pm »

Why is the Senate election producing a PP majority, with Podemos and C's getting next to nothing?

Most likely FPTP
That would explain it - I didn't realise it was FPTP.
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