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« on: May 27, 2015, 06:48:05 am »

Huh,didn't think that Gracia would go to CiU.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 01:46:10 am »

Grącia is the most Catalanist of the Barcelona districts. Even though Vila de Grącia is traditionally left-leaning (ICV used to poll strongly, ERC as of late), there are neighbourhoods that tend to favour CiU a bit more.
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Great post! Thanks for the explanation.
Catalan politics are a true mess. Didn't understand them when I lived in Barcelona,and now with Podemos they seem even more obscure. But you shed some light over them Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2015, 07:09:57 am »

Kinda surprising also how CiU won in Sant Antoni (by very little, admiteddly), since it's much more similar to Raval than to Eixample.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015, 07:14:10 am »

If Democrącia i Llibertat has such a poor showing in Catalunya,will it kill all possibilities of CUP voting for him as president?
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2015, 06:07:37 am »

At last,according to CIS,voters are identifying Ciudadanos as a center-right party.
On a range from 0 (hard left) to 10 (hard right),it has passed in the last year from 5,17 to 6,37.
PSOE is around 4,PP around 8(!!).

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2015/12/10/actualidad/1449775061_273418.html
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 08:10:26 am »

lmao, that's amazing
Happens all the time in Italy,with horseraces instead of music tastes.

Anyway,I read that Sanchez went all-in in yesterday's debate...
"Spain needs a decent PM,and you (Rajoy) are not a decent person".
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 12:03:59 pm »

PP 26%
PSOE 23%
Podemos 20%
Ciudadanos 16%
IU 4%
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 02:06:24 pm »

RTVe has PP + C's eight seats short of a majority

Oh dear...
Not even a grosse koalition...a huge coalition would be needed then.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 09:02:05 am »

What's exactly the role of the Senate?
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2015, 06:07:48 am »

That exclave of Burgos province inside Alava seems to have liked Podemos a lot.

Result in Orexa, Gipuzkoa: EH Bildu 72 votes, PNV 1 vote, everyone else zero.

You must feel for that lone PNV voter...
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2015, 03:24:24 am »

It's more that PODEMOS are weakest in the Castillian heartland.
They do very well in the most autonomous of communities,which if I am not wrong are also those with an alternative official language.
Galicia,Catalunya,Pais Vasco,Communitat Valenciana,Baleares,Canarias...
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 08:52:56 am »

Why in hell didn't Convergencia get rid of Mas before the CUP assembly?
Just goes on to show how CdC didn't care one bit about independence,after all.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2016, 11:39:30 am »

If CUP agree to this,they'd reach a whole new level of ridicolousness.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2016, 06:36:24 am »

Italy 2013, I tell you...

The Podemos-M5S comparison seems to hold quite well,as of now.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2016, 12:17:33 pm »

Italy 2013, I tell you...

The Podemos-M5S comparison seems to hold quite well,as of now.

I'm far from being a Pablo Iglesias fan at this point, but I beg to differ. There is a world of differences between the inarticulate 5 Stelle Movement and the Spanish purple party, which certainly has to solve internal contradictions and strengthen its territorial structure.

Their hatred towards the main centre-left party (which should be its natural,and perhaps only,ally) and pretending to be for "a new kind of politics" while acting in a purely tactical way reminds me of M5S.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2017, 08:21:52 am »

From what I understood, the PSOE primary debate was...rough to say the least.
Sanchez may not be a politically genius, but Susana Diaz makes it soooo easy to hate her.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 09:38:08 am »

This is the biggest middle finger the voters could have given the Sanchez govt, when you lose a safe state for the first time in forever, something is going wrong. Does this make the eventual election occur sooner (parties flee a loser) or later (rally around the center to prevent losses)?

Another dimension that I have not seen discussed yet is the UK angle. Voters might not have liked Sanchez's transparent postering, or they might not have like the 11th hour deal he agreed to with the UK to 'solve' the Gibraltar issue. It's the only thing resembling a October surprise that could have occurred.

I might be wrong, but I doubt that Gibraltar was important or decisive. The EU decision making is based largely on 11th hour agreements. I'd say more: 11th hour is the very definition of the European Union. As I see it, Pedro Sįnchez played his trick in order to draw concesions. Not concesions on sovereignty, but concesions on bilateral relations and safeguards. I don't know the details, but I haven't read solvent opinions saying it's a bad agreement. The Spanish Right claims that it's bad and maybe right wing voters think the same thing. However the Spanush Right is negationist  by definition. Does the UK press say it was a bad arrangenent for Spain? I didn't check.

There are voices in favour of calling elections immediately and try to mobilize left-wing voters, shocked and scared by the rise of the far right. The situation of the governmnt is untenable. Pedro Sįnchez has a remarkable ability to survive; but this shock is too hard.

On the other hand, Cs will have to explain many things to EU allies. Macron and Le Pen together? What' s that? It's not difficult to imagine increasing pressure for a PSOE-Cs agreement, in case they have the numbers after a general election. With the VOX rise a red-irange majority is uncertain.

No easy way out.

Ciudadanos agreeing to govern with VOX would (should?) burn all bridges at the european level between ALDE and the other non-nationalist parties.
Are they gonna sell their soul to the devil given these consequences?

I guess the time has come for Ciudadanos to decide what it actually is.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2018, 04:55:28 am »

Fascinating map of results by precinct or census section. You can zoom in and out throughout Andalusia and click on the map to see the result in a specific location, or type an adress in the box...

https://m.eldiario.es/andalucia/MAPA-partido-elecciones-andaluzas-manzana_0_842366730.html

Great map.
In particular, I find it very interesting how the center-left is completely annihilated downtown in all the largest cities (in Sevilla, PP+VOX get more than 60% pretty much everywhere).
This in in stark contrast to the urban/rural divide that's going on in the last few years, not least in Italy where PD is now the "party of the city center".
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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2018, 10:27:14 am »

That seems a pretty huge bump for Vox...?
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