How did people who disapprove of Lincoln vote?

[Nichlemn]

I'm guessing like an exaggerated version of white Deep Southerners. Heavily Democratic prior to 1964, then voted heavily for Goldwater, heavily for Wallace, then heavily for Nixon. Probably went strongly for Carter in 76, but I'm not totally sure. Have probably voted R ever since, but I'm not too certain (could have voted for Carter in '80 and Clinton in '92, maybe '96, because they likely had strong 'yellow dog' leanings that might incline them to voting for Southern Democrats). Definitely voted R since 2000, especially against Obama. Probably voted 90% R, 5% D and 5% third party over the last two Presidential elections.

[ElectionsGuy]

Pretty much

1948 and prior: Heavily Democratic
1952 and '56: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Mixed, slight tilt for Kennedy
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Mostly Wallace, but some for Nixon
1972: Heavily Nixon
1976: Lean Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984 and onwards: Heavily Republican

[Rockefeller GOP]

I doubt this "group" voted for Reagan over Carter, look at the county results for 1980.  Reagan barely won the Southern states that he did win, and his strength came from the more populous counties.  Carter won all the rural, Dixiecrat counties.

[Rockefeller GOP]

I doubt this "group" voted for Reagan over Carter, look at the county results for 1980.  Reagan barely won the Southern states that he did win, and his strength came from the more populous counties.  Carter won all the rural, Dixiecrat counties.

Blacks.

He lost several rural counties which had to be mainly White...

[Rockefeller GOP]

I doubt this "group" voted for Reagan over Carter, look at the county results for 1980.  Reagan barely won the Southern states that he did win, and his strength came from the more populous counties.  Carter won all the rural, Dixiecrat counties.

Blacks.

He lost several rural counties which had to be mainly White...

White : Reagan 50, Carter 45
Black: Carter 90, Reagan 10

would be enough to win any Southern county for the Democrats.

Also, Reagan won the White South 60-35.

Reagan won Lincoln haters.

All I said is that Carter won most of the rural voters while Reagan won the more suburban counties.  I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that your classic Dixiecrat type Lincoln hater is more common in rural counties rather than booming suburbs that have larger populations of Northern transplants.  Considering Reagan only won White voters by 5, it would not be outrageous to claim that Carter might have won "Lincoln haters."

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

I imagine most of the people who disapprove of Lincoln are libertarians/paleoconservatives, and they'd be inclined to vote for Paul (in GOP primaries) or the Libertarian candidate (in the general).

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

I imagine most of the people who disapprove of Lincoln are libertarians/paleoconservatives, and they'd be inclined to vote for Paul (in GOP primaries) or the Libertarian candidate (in the general).

I think that's more of the case outside of the South.  Southerners who disapprove of Lincoln tend to be fairly typical Republicans.

[Rockefeller GOP]

I imagine most of the people who disapprove of Lincoln are libertarians/paleoconservatives, and they'd be inclined to vote for Paul (in GOP primaries) or the Libertarian candidate (in the general).

I think that's more of the case outside of the South.  Southerners who disapprove of Lincoln tend to be fairly typical Republicans.

Which is a shame.  I'd gladly kick them to the curb.  I feel the same as Nixon felt about his (now infamous) "Southern Strategy": I'm fine with winning the NEW South (people with conservative values who feel at home in the GOP but don't carry the same racist or neo-Confederate views that their parents and grandparents might have), but there's no room in the Party of Lincoln for the type of voter who more or less amounts to a modern day Dixiecrat who's simply switched his or her party label.

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

I imagine most of the people who disapprove of Lincoln are libertarians/paleoconservatives, and they'd be inclined to vote for Paul (in GOP primaries) or the Libertarian candidate (in the general).

I think that's more of the case outside of the South.  Southerners who disapprove of Lincoln tend to be fairly typical Republicans.

Meaning Copperheads? Yeah, you're probably right. Paul actually gets some of his worst numbers in the Deep South (except South Carolina in '12).

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

[The Mikado]

Yes, but Lincoln haters are more concentrated in the South. Why would a farmer in Iowa hate Lincoln? Hell, he probably identifies with him. Whereas some white farmer from Alabama probably does hate Lincoln. (Generalizing and stereotyping)

I will give you that Carter won Lincoln haters in 76 by a significant margin.

My mental image of a Lincoln hater isn't really a Southerner, it's a guy in a cabin in Wyoming with an Infowars bumper sticker and Alex Jones on the radio as he collects automatic weapons to defend against the coming New World Order and its UN black helicopters.

"If the tyrant Lincoln could overturn habeus corpus and be treated as a hero, Obama will follow suit any day! The government's going to ship me to Guantanamo!"

[SingingAnalyst]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

Ah-ha! We finally found our Goldwater-Humphrey voters!

[Calthrina950]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

This seems mostly right, but in 1972, these voters almost certainly went strongly for Nixon. McGovern was demolished in the Deep South, and would have done as bad as pre-1948 Republicans did without the black vote.

[SingingAnalyst]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

Ah-ha! We finally found our Goldwater-Humphrey voters!

Actually, I was only kidding about that. Spot-on, except I would change 1972 to strongly for Nixon.

I wonder if there might be reasons for present-day voters to disapprove of Lincoln for reasons other than Southern/Dixiecrat sympathies?

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

Ah-ha! We finally found our Goldwater-Humphrey voters!

Actually, I was only kidding about that. Spot-on, except I would change 1972 to strongly for Nixon.

I wonder if there might be reasons for present-day voters to disapprove of Lincoln for reasons other than Southern/Dixiecrat sympathies?

Some have no sympathy for the Confederacy but think Lincoln introduced big government to America and some criticize him for the suspension of Habeus Corpus (which I think is a fair criticism).  Some hardcore libertarians will say "A pox on both houses."

[Kodak]

Strongly Democrat prior to 1948
1948: About even between Truman and Thurmond
1952: Moderately for Stevenson
1956: Moderately for Stevenson
1960: Moderately for Kennedy, with significant support for Byrd
1964: Strongly for Goldwater
1968: Strongly for Wallace, but a significant minority for Humphrey
1972: Moderately for Nixon
1976: Strongly for Carter
1980: Lean Reagan
1984: Strongly for Reagan
1988: Strongly for Bush
1992: Lean Bush, but significant support for Clinton
1996: Lean Dole, but significant support for Clinton
Strongly Republican from 2000 on

Ah-ha! We finally found our Goldwater-Humphrey voters!

Actually, I was only kidding about that. Spot-on, except I would change 1972 to strongly for Nixon.

I wonder if there might be reasons for present-day voters to disapprove of Lincoln for reasons other than Southern/Dixiecrat sympathies?

Most Some Native Americans probably don't approve of his presidency.

[darklordoftech]

I wonder if there might be reasons for present-day voters to disapprove of Lincoln for reasons other than Southern/Dixiecrat sympathies?

The Civil War and slavery are the only things that make Lincoln unique. Jackson started the trend of executive supremecy, ignored a SCOTUS ruling, and treated Native Americans far worse, Wilson ignored the First Amendment and deported "socialists", FDR interned people of Japanese descent, etc.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

I wonder if there might be reasons for present-day voters to disapprove of Lincoln for reasons other than Southern/Dixiecrat sympathies?

The Civil War and slavery are the only things that make Lincoln unique. Jackson started the trend of executive supremecy, ignored a SCOTUS ruling, and treated Native Americans far worse, Wilson ignored the First Amendment and deported "socialists", FDR interned people of Japanese descent, etc.

To be fair, a lot of anti-Lincoln libertarians criticize those things, too.

[OSR stands with Israel]

1860-1924: Solidly Democratic
1928: Swing Voters
1932-1944: Solidly Democratic
1948: Lean Democratic
1952-1960: Lean Democratic
1964: Lean Goldwater
1968: Lean Wallace
1972: Solidly for Nixon
1976: Solidly for Carter
1980: Swing voters between Reagan and Carter
1984-1988: Solidly Republican
1992-1996 : Swing Voters
2000-Present : Solidly Republican

[Sumner 1868]

1868-1924: Overwhelmingly Democratic
1928: Mostly Smith but sizably anti-Catholic defections
1932-1944: FDR, though less so every time
1948: Truman in the Upper South, Thurmond in the Deep South
1952: Stevenson without much enthusiasm
1956: " "
1960: A majority back Kennedy but sizable anti-Catholic defections
1964: Goldwater, unless they live within TVA range, Arkansas, Texas, or in Cajun country
1968: Wallace, with Nixon pockets
1972: Virtually all for Nixon
1976: Lean Ford, though just enough voted Carter combined with black vote he carried the South
1980: Reagan modestly
1984: Massively Reagan
1988: Massively Bush, by this point the GOP is the new Southern party
1992: Bush, unless they live within TVA range, Arkansas, or Cajun country
1996: Dole, unless they live within TVA range, Arkansas, or Cajun country
2000: W Bush easily
2004: W Bush massively
2008: Virtually all for McCain
2012: Virtually all for Romney
2016: Virtually all for Trump

[RINO Tom]

Looking at county results, the idea that the Southern Whites who voted Ford had the majority of Lincoln haters is dubious at best.

[Sumner 1868]

Looking at county results, the idea that the Southern Whites who voted Ford had the majority of Lincoln haters is dubious at best.

Not really. Outside GA Carter carried most counties on the black vote plus a sizeable minority of whites. What you see on the map is the difference between thirty-something percent of whites voting Democratic vs teens or single-digits. Arkansas is an exception, of course, but that state always stood out a bit.