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« on: February 08, 2015, 11:55:54 PM »

This played before the sermon today. Basically these two ultra-hipster looking guys (one with a very stereotypical hipster looking beard who the other guy mentions "even looks like Jesus" and the other guy with very hipster glasses) are sitting at a table and talking while drinking beers in color that's from an Instagram like filter. This part happens at one point (obviously this is a very loose paraphrase):

Beard guy: So anyway I think religion is a lot like that big name kngeg beer you likely drunk at college keg parties.
Glasses guy: How so?
Beard guy: Well it's gross. And odds are you don't really like it. But you drink it anyway because everyone else around is and it's kind of a societal expectation. And at the time you don't really know any better.
Glasses guy: Ha! That's so true!
Beard guy: But you see the sad thing is that it really does turn people off to Jesus. Like in college you discovered better beers. And there's plenty of better ways to God's word than the bad beer you drank when you were young and likely underage. Plenty of better ways to give the message just like all those awesome craft beers we have all around, and unique ways from other countries. But for some reason, people keep drinking the heavily advertised beer that's basically just slightly beer-flavored water and the toxic religion is the biggest out there and turning people off to Jesus. But just like the awesome craft beers flourish in the underground regardless, we're still getting people to buy into what Jesus is really all about. We just need to push the real message of Jesus more to let people know there's more it than religion, just as there's more to beer than what you'll see in a Super Bowl commercial.
Glasses guy: So true man! *they toast their bottles*

Seriously talk about knowing your audience. And honestly, it's a pretty good analogy.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 09:25:07 AM »

In my opinion, these hipsters really don't know about the real Jesus any more than the toxic beer/religion that they claim is turning people away from him.

Sure they had a point about the religion being like popular beer but how can they go ahead and say that their religion is any different? They sound to me like any other religious person who says 'We're right and all those other people are wrong. We know the real message of Jesus and all those other people don't."

Jesus was a nice guy you know, who said some nice stuff. Don't over think it.

This Agnostic votes Horrible Quotes.

Remember that these are the "It's not about religion, it's about a relationship with Jesus Christ" people. They don't claim to be religious.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 01:10:52 AM »

In my opinion, these hipsters really don't know about the real Jesus any more than the toxic beer/religion that they claim is turning people away from him.

Sure they had a point about the religion being like popular beer but how can they go ahead and say that their religion is any different? They sound to me like any other religious person who says 'We're right and all those other people are wrong. We know the real message of Jesus and all those other people don't."

Jesus was a nice guy you know, who said some nice stuff. Don't over think it.

This Agnostic votes Horrible Quotes.

Remember that these are the "It's not about religion, it's about a relationship with Jesus Christ" people. They don't claim to be religious.

That's still super dumb.  A religion is an organized or codified collections of beliefs about a metaphysical entity.  "Religion" has never exclusively meant "prescribed rituals and rules."  If you want to draw that distinction, that's fine, but the "relationship not religion" thing is marketing gobbledygook.

Even if it's just a marketing term, I think the distinction is pretty valid. Especially as Christianity fundamentally varies from other religions in this, but some denominations miss this big time, for example no Christian denomination insists that you have to pray at least five times a day pointing in a certain direction, and most denominations don't have all sorts of forbidden foods or forbid certain activities on certain days of the week but some do like create all sorts of arbitrary rules, and it's something the type of people at these type of places try to escape. Think of the video's content and how so many conservative evangelical colleges will expel students if found to be drinking any alcohol, even if legal aged.
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