Opinion of this exchange (from a church video)

[Alcon]

In my opinion, these hipsters really don't know about the real Jesus any more than the toxic beer/religion that they claim is turning people away from him.

Sure they had a point about the religion being like popular beer but how can they go ahead and say that their religion is any different? They sound to me like any other religious person who says 'We're right and all those other people are wrong. We know the real message of Jesus and all those other people don't."

Jesus was a nice guy you know, who said some nice stuff. Don't over think it.

This Agnostic votes Horrible Quotes.

Remember that these are the "It's not about religion, it's about a relationship with Jesus Christ" people. They don't claim to be religious.

That's still super dumb.  A religion is an organized or codified collections of beliefs about a metaphysical entity.  "Religion" has never exclusively meant "prescribed rituals and rules."  If you want to draw that distinction, that's fine, but the "relationship not religion" thing is marketing gobbledygook.

[Alcon]

It reinforces the snobby Gnostic message that the unwashed masses can't truly appreciate "real religion".  I hate Gnosticism in all its forms.  Even Atheism is better.

Snobby is in the eye of the beholder, though, right?

I'm also not sure what you think this quote has to do with Gnosticisim, or claims that the "unwashed masses can't appreciate 'real religion.'"  I think the point is that "religion" (which again is a dumb way of phrasing it) is a bad vehicle for the important elements of Christianity.  How do you relate Gnosticism to this?

[Alcon]

Beer snobbery and Gnosticism both have at their core the belief that certain truths are incapable of being appreciated by all.

This is a form of Gnosticism because it holds that "certain truths are incapable of being appreciated by all"?  It only holds that "certain truths are being incapable of being appreciated by all" in the sense that the cartoon argues that a lot of Christians misunderstand the true value of Christianity.  so, basically: "All craft beer drinks are snobs.  Snobbery is an aspect of Gnosticism.  Therefore, all craft beer drinkers are Gnostics"?

I don't think I need to explain why that's fallacious.

[Alcon]

Beer snobbery and Gnosticism both have at their core the belief that certain truths are incapable of being appreciated by all.

This is a form of Gnosticism because it holds that "certain truths are incapable of being appreciated by all"?  It only holds that "certain truths are being incapable of being appreciated by all" in the sense that the cartoon argues that a lot of Christians misunderstand the true value of Christianity.  so, basically: "All craft beer drinks are snobs.  Snobbery is an aspect of Gnosticism.  Therefore, all craft beer drinkers are Gnostics"?

I don't think I need to explain why that's fallacious.

My argument is more like "Craft beer drinkers are snobs", "Gnostics are snobs" "Belief in snobbery as a good thing in one area makes other types of snobbery seem better."  Hence thinking craft beer drinkers are better makes gnosticism appear to be better.

That's weirdly obscure, but logical.  Withdrawn.