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« Reply #175 on: March 27, 2015, 06:04:52 PM »

Trade is not the same as subsidy, and it is the cutting off of Israeli subsidies I was referring to.  Granted, the Arabs have shot themselves in the foot economically by not embracing trade to the same extent as Israel, but the Arabs won't remain dumb forever.  Once they do wise up and embrace the modern world, that'll be another edge Israel currently has that they will lose.

If I thought that the situation now would remain the situation forever, then there would be no reason to think Israel is doomed to eventual extinction.  But the simple fact is that the settlements have always been expanding since day one of the occupation.  Even when for tactical reasons settlements have been given up in certain areas (Sinai and Gaza) that was paired with construction of expanded settlements elsewhere.  Gaza is in many ways the ideal of a Palestinian ghetto for the Zionists.  It's totally incapable of being self sufficient and packs a lot of undesired Arabs into very little territory. (Only Macau, Monaco, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Gibraltar are more densely populated and only Singapore of those five is fully independent.)   The only problem from the Zionist point of view is that Gaza hasn't been quiescently accepting of being subservient to Israel.

Obviously the situation so far is not such as to cause Israel to lose its essential US support.  Until Israel starts dismantling settlements without building others to replace them, I see no reason to think that the creeping land grab that has been going on since 1967 will not continue indefinitely.  With every new settlement, its support will continue to drop and unless Israel has access to superior military technology compared to its neighbors, it can't indefinitely maintain its military edge which is what it has been dependent upon since day one.
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« Reply #176 on: March 28, 2015, 05:56:56 AM »

Yes and it's not like when you see the Israeli economy, you're that impressed. It's not bad, the BOP is negative, but not disasterous, the foreign trade is relative low for a developed economy of their size, but again not a disaster, it's more or less comparative to the Portuguese BOP right now. but it's not a economy with a lot of room for independent RnD, if USA stopped supporting their RnD and EU stopped buying Israeli military products, Israel would not be able to still throw the necessary resources into it.
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