Twist of events: Martha Coakley wins the Democratic nomination
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« on: March 31, 2015, 12:10:30 AM »
« edited: March 31, 2015, 12:13:35 AM by emcee0 »

How does she do against the following candidates?
Ted Cruz
Mike Pence
Louie Gohmert
Michelle Bachmann
Rick Perry
Todd Akin
Empty Chair
Can Martha beat anyone??
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 12:11:27 AM »

she loses
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 12:13:37 AM »

Today at 10:11:27 pm
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 12:24:28 AM »


She narrowly beats Empty Chair.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 12:32:08 AM »

I know she loses Massachusetts...
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 12:39:18 AM »

Discuss with maps!
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 12:39:40 AM »



Generic R - 406
Coakley - 132

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 12:39:44 AM »

that's been determined
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 01:08:23 AM »

In all seriousness Coakley likely wins MA. There's quite a big difference between losing to Charlie Baker and losing to Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 01:28:34 AM »

Wulfirc's map seems about right, except for perhaps WA and MA if the economy is good.
She'd lose disastrously and she'd deserve it.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 01:43:34 AM »

In all seriousness Coakley likely wins MA. There's quite a big difference between losing to Charlie Baker and losing to Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.
Coakley lost a SENATE race. Massachusetts has been a purple-blue state in terms of governors for DECADES, that's not a new thing. Yes, Patrick was a democrat, but before him, you had Romney, then Jane Swift, then William Weld, all (moderate at the time) republicans. But in the Senate races, Coakley is the SOLE exception to a deep-blue trend that began in 1976. Even if she somehow won MA presidentially, it would be a narrow 1-3% victory.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 10:50:38 AM »

I used to defend Coakley because her 2010 loss was at the height of Tea Party-style dissatisfaction, but her 2014 loss proved she's just as bad as everyone said. Besides, the whole Fells Acres incident was pretty disgusting.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2015, 02:02:06 PM »

Further, her ridiculously unconstitutional anti-protester abortion bill reveals her to be a huge HP as well as an electoral failure.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 02:14:54 PM »

In all seriousness Coakley likely wins MA. There's quite a big difference between losing to Charlie Baker and losing to Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.
Coakley lost a SENATE race. Massachusetts has been a purple-blue state in terms of governors for DECADES, that's not a new thing. Yes, Patrick was a democrat, but before him, you had Romney, then Jane Swift, then William Weld, all (moderate at the time) republicans. But in the Senate races, Coakley is the SOLE exception to a deep-blue trend that began in 1976. Even if she somehow won MA presidentially, it would be a narrow 1-3% victory.

Would Rick Berg lose North Dakota against Hillary Clinton? Would Alexi Giannoulias lose Illinois to Ted Cruz? Similarly, it will be a cold day in hell before MA would vote for Scott Walker over a piece of dog crap (D).
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 02:17:24 PM »



Empty Chair 408 Electoral Votes at least 55% of popular vote
Coakley       130 Electoral Votes around 45% of popular vote.

This is Coakley's ceiling.
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2015, 02:40:25 PM »

In all seriousness Coakley likely wins MA. There's quite a big difference between losing to Charlie Baker and losing to Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.
Coakley lost a SENATE race. Massachusetts has been a purple-blue state in terms of governors for DECADES, that's not a new thing. Yes, Patrick was a democrat, but before him, you had Romney, then Jane Swift, then William Weld, all (moderate at the time) republicans. But in the Senate races, Coakley is the SOLE exception to a deep-blue trend that began in 1976. Even if she somehow won MA presidentially, it would be a narrow 1-3% victory.

Would Rick Berg lose North Dakota against Hillary Clinton? Would Alexi Giannoulias lose Illinois to Ted Cruz? Similarly, it will be a cold day in hell before MA would vote for Scott Walker over a piece of dog crap (D).

Losing in a ND senate race is not unusual for republicans, you only have to go back to 2006 to find a win before the one that Heitkamp got in 2012. Illinois did not have a since-1976 deep blue senate trend before Kirk - Sen. Fitzgerald (R) was elected in 1998. Massachusetts is objectively the most partisan of those three states on the senate level, and Coakley still lost.

A piece of dog crap might win simply because it has no record to be attacked. But Coakley - she's worse than a deadly virus.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2015, 02:42:45 PM »

I mean, I like to bash Martha Chokely as much as the next guy, but is it really worth getting this vitriolic over someone who is never going to seek the nomination? I'm sure she feels bad enough.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2015, 02:46:52 PM »

In all seriousness Coakley likely wins MA. There's quite a big difference between losing to Charlie Baker and losing to Scott Walker or Jeb Bush.

There's no difference between losing to Scott Walker and Scott Brown.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2015, 03:40:26 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2015, 03:46:28 PM »


Does Coakley crack 90% in Colorado by virtue of not being Hillary Clinton?
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2015, 05:02:54 PM »

would alex sink be her running mate?

i actually like alex sink, though.
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2015, 05:07:28 PM »

in all seriousness she could do no worse than this:

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2015, 08:40:38 PM »


Beat me to it!
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2015, 09:09:18 PM »

I'd be wondering how many New Hampshire voters (New Hampshire is presumably the only state she could be competitive in during the primaries) were drunk when they were voting.
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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2015, 09:26:34 AM »

This would be Martha Coakley's ceiling IMO:


On a more serious note, Massachussetts, Rhode Island, New York, Maryland, DC, Illinois, California and Washington will probably go Democratic regardless of how weak the Democratic nominee is. The same can be said about Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Alabama and possibly West Virginia on the Republican side.
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