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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: April 15, 2004, 11:11:31 AM »



Results so far:
ANC 69%
DA   14%
IFP   05%
NNP  02%
Turnout: 77%
58% of votes counted
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I'm actually quite pleased with these results:

1). Although I'm no fan of Mbeki, I am a fan of the ANC.
2). Both the ANC and the DA have gained votes.
3). The NNP was decimated!!! Smiley
4). The IFP had a bad election Smiley
5). The ANC may have beaten the IFP in Kwa-Zulu Natal (fingers crossed)
6). Despite a certain outcome, turnout was far higher than most western countries.
7) 69% means that the ANC don't need to co-operate with smaller parties... hopefully moving government leftward.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2004, 02:05:30 PM »

60% counted... ANC up to 70%
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2004, 05:05:37 AM »

90% counted:

ANC: 70%
DA: 13%
IFP: 7%
NNP: 2%
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ANC lead in all provinces... but may not get overall majorities in Kwa Zulu-Natal and Western Cape.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2004, 07:14:15 AM »

7) 69% means that the ANC don't need to co-operate with smaller parties... hopefully moving government leftward.
The 2 previous elections the ANC also scored about 60-65%. Did they cooperate then with smaller parties?

Yes... they had to. If they get over 66%, I think they are allowed to change the constitution
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2004, 09:13:33 AM »

Wake me up when one of the parties is able to obtain more than just the votes of one race.

The DA won votes from both Whites and "Cape" Coloureds.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2004, 04:10:41 AM »

I think at the moment, a two thirds majority is needed to pass things through the SA Parliament.
This has meant that the ANC has had to co-operate with parties such as the IFP and the NNP (urgh), which swings government to the right (not what South Africa needs right now).
Hopefully the ANC will now be able to get more done for poor people.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2004, 06:04:48 AM »

The ANC has turned South Africa into a rathole.

They are the single most destructive force in any Demcoratic country in the world right now.

The only reason they win is because the blacks in South Africa are too pissed off to think straight.

Still pining for Apartheid? eh? eh?
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2004, 03:23:04 PM »

Hardly.  But remember that it was DeKlerk, not the ANC, that dismantled apartheid.

What bothers me is that because of Nelson Mandela's incompetence, a generation of children in South Africa will grow up too illiterate to read this message.

Grow up
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2004, 03:40:21 PM »

South Africa's a horrible mess - everyone's leaving who can.  In other words the whites.

Oh boo hoo, the poor little rich kids don't have their slaves servents anymore and can't shoot "kaffir's" for fun.
What a pity...
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2004, 04:02:40 PM »

It's less of a mess know than it was 10 years ago
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2004, 04:29:00 PM »

ANC did a lot of good things. The current leadership under Mbeki is disastrous though.

Mbeki's a fool. Hopefully now he doesn't need to co-operate with the small parties he will actually LISTEN TO HIS VOTERS
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2004, 03:39:41 AM »

Is there any point arguing with someone who won't listen?
South Africa was a mess BEFORE the ANC came to power.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2004, 02:46:47 AM »

Is there any point arguing with someone who won't listen?
South Africa was a mess BEFORE the ANC came to power.

Not in comparison with the rest of Africa.

True, but it doesn't say a lot, now does it? Wink

It's interesting to remember though that Africans actually fled TO South Africa, since the apartheid rule often was better than living under their own dictators...

*Cough* Soweto *Cough*
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