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« Reply #1225 on: May 09, 2015, 04:38:01 PM »

Protests on the streets of London today: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.990107307666350.1073742020.593116884032063&type=1

Wait until the cuts start happening...

#LondonRiots.
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« Reply #1226 on: May 09, 2015, 05:28:28 PM »



The South East.
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« Reply #1227 on: May 09, 2015, 05:39:24 PM »

That's terrifying for me... Sad
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« Reply #1228 on: May 09, 2015, 05:53:53 PM »



East Midlands.
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« Reply #1229 on: May 09, 2015, 06:14:43 PM »

All of the major parties, bar the Tories, are currently led by women (either in acting or permanent form).
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« Reply #1230 on: May 09, 2015, 08:02:16 PM »


Where can Labour even try and break through?
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« Reply #1231 on: May 09, 2015, 08:08:20 PM »



Eastern England.
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« Reply #1232 on: May 09, 2015, 08:18:50 PM »


Hove, Southampton, northwestern Kent, Dover/Thanet, and a few others (example Hastings and Rye)
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« Reply #1233 on: May 09, 2015, 08:20:26 PM »

Most of the South East is out of bounds to Labour even in a really good year. But it was ever thus: the future of the Labour Party does not, I suspect, rest on its ability to win Surrey.
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« Reply #1234 on: May 09, 2015, 09:00:11 PM »

Funny how the Lib Dem collapse resulted in so much of Toryland now looking like Chretien-era Liberal Ontario, where the leading party's formidably 'way on top, hovering over a motley gang mired in teens and second digits...
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« Reply #1235 on: May 09, 2015, 09:11:43 PM »

What is a good website to see the actual MP results seat by seat?
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« Reply #1236 on: May 09, 2015, 09:13:23 PM »

Al, Plaid Cymru seems to only win support from Welsh-speaking voters. Does the party accept this as their fate and continue on with the hope of maintaining the status quo for as long as possible? Or do they actually have dreams of winning over English-speaking voters?
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« Reply #1237 on: May 09, 2015, 09:37:44 PM »

Labour never won the South East in Blair's majorities, but they did do a lot better in the constituencies along the Thames and around the Thames Estuary.
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« Reply #1238 on: May 09, 2015, 09:47:57 PM »

Here's a map using Al's template of UKIP in Wales



As you can see it's very even. In no seat did UKIP get over 20% of the vote and only in four did they get under 10% and then with no lost deposits. While there were a few second places, nowhere were they close to winning. Their worst results were in Cardiff then following by the Welsh speaking parts of Wales and Powys. Their best results in mostly in the valleys and around Deeside. In particularly they did well - scoring over 19% in three constituencies - in the Eastern Valleys. However, as I've tried to make clear, there was no real standout result.
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« Reply #1239 on: May 10, 2015, 03:46:45 AM »

So I have to ask. What kind of voter voted Lib Dem in 2010 and Conservative in 2015? I understand the kind who shifted to Labour and the Greens and those who shifted to UKIP but the ones who shifted to the Tories are puzzling me, especially considering they seem to be the largest group.
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« Reply #1240 on: May 10, 2015, 04:08:25 AM »

So I have to ask. What kind of voter voted Lib Dem in 2010 and Conservative in 2015? I understand the kind who shifted to Labour and the Greens and those who shifted to UKIP but the ones who shifted to the Tories are puzzling me, especially considering they seem to be the largest group.

Small 'l' liberals who are antipathetic to Labour and feel that the Cameron-led Tory Party is liberal enough (which it is) for them.
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« Reply #1241 on: May 10, 2015, 04:16:06 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf
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« Reply #1242 on: May 10, 2015, 06:29:54 AM »

And a 47-32 lead for proportional representation over FPTP. There obviously won't be much chance of a change happening now with a Tory majority, but positively surprised by that. It suggests that in the future, it might not be completely impossible, especially if the reform camp is led by Someone Who Is Not Nick Clegg. Now that UKIP is those hurt the most by the system, then perhaps the old voters, who would actually turn up for such a referendum, would be less opposed. The poll shows that 60+ voters prefer PR by 48 to 36. The FPTP would of course grow doing a referendum campaign with the easy message of "chaos, chaos, chaos" with PR, but if the numbers are like that now it looks good. Labour might also be less opposed to PR now that they don't have the Scotland seats anymore which made FPTP even more favourable for them.
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« Reply #1243 on: May 10, 2015, 06:41:37 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf

Had a look through the poll, and I do wonder... who on earth are the 7% of UKIP voters who want the UK to remain in the EU? Huh
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« Reply #1244 on: May 10, 2015, 06:55:21 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf

Had a look through the poll, and I do wonder... who on earth are the 7% of UKIP voters who want the UK to remain in the EU? Huh

And who are the Liberal Democrat voters who are "delighted"/"pleased on balance" with a result that has all but destroyed their party? Tongue
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« Reply #1245 on: May 10, 2015, 07:02:45 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf

Had a look through the poll, and I do wonder... who on earth are the 7% of UKIP voters who want the UK to remain in the EU? Huh

Not quite all SNP voters favour independence, not quite all Greens are obsessed with environmental preservation. I suspect they are working-class voters who voted UKIP for their immigration stance and are fairly apathetic or unknowledgeable about the EU issue.
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« Reply #1246 on: May 10, 2015, 07:23:19 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf

Had a look through the poll, and I do wonder... who on earth are the 7% of UKIP voters who want the UK to remain in the EU? Huh

And who are the Liberal Democrat voters who are "delighted"/"pleased on balance" with a result that has all but destroyed their party? Tongue

Probably the right side of the party which ultimately wanted Cameron to stay in power. Most probably voted Lib Dem strategically in a two horse race with SNP or Labour to no avail.
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« Reply #1247 on: May 10, 2015, 07:29:48 AM »

And who are the Liberal Democrat voters who are "delighted"/"pleased on balance" with a result that has all but destroyed their party? Tongue
There will be a handful of Lib Dem voters who are in fact not LD supporters - there will have been Tory supporters who voted LD in LD-Lab marginals such as Sheffield Hallam believing that a need to retain the coalition was paramount. They should rightly be "delighted" with the result, though I can't honestly believe 9% of the LD vote is a tactical Tory element.

There will be others who are Orange Book liberals who believed in the personal finance reforms of the coalition (increase in personal allowance, pension reform, etc) who soundly believe it will continue under a Conservative only govt. I think they could be said to be "pleased on balance", however not all will be!

The Beveridge side of the party should rightly be dismayed at the loss of so many MPs, including so many of their own senior staff (though interestingly more Beveridge MPs survived than Orange Bookers), however, they may actually believe that now being out of coalition gives them hope to rebuild.


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« Reply #1248 on: May 10, 2015, 07:41:15 AM »

YouGov election reaction poll out. Highlight: support for Scottish independence has surged in the rUK and a plurality of people now say that England and Wales would be better off without Scotland. Also, there is a 45-45 divide about the Tory majority.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/iznjhc72l9/YG-Archive-Pol-Sunday-Times-results-090515.pdf

Had a look through the poll, and I do wonder... who on earth are the 7% of UKIP voters who want the UK to remain in the EU? Huh

Generic protest voters. Probably a lot of LibDem --> UKIP voters in that 7%.
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« Reply #1249 on: May 10, 2015, 08:35:20 AM »

Looks like the first poll after the election by Survation

CON     40
LAB      31
LD         6
UKIP    12
Green    4
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