Labour Party leadership election 2015

[warandwar]

What exactly are the perks in being deputy leader? doesn't seem like a really influencing majordomo

I'm sure there's perks in running for it, even if the position doesn't hold much power.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What exactly are the perks in being deputy leader? doesn't seem like a really influencing majordomo

The Deputy Leader is entitled to a seat in the Cabinet/Shadow Cabinet and gets an automatic seat on the NEC. It's also a very prestigious post and prestige matters. Of course George Brown stayed on as Deputy after resigning from the Cabinet, but then he was special...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Map of the Leadership nominations, partly because but also to see if there are any patterns worth noting:



Candidates are coloured but with a cross added.

Errors possible etc.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Deputy. In this case the colours are much more random and will likely alter etc:

[Andrea]

Nominations update

Crobyn 13
Creagh 7

Kendall 37
Cooper 46
Burnham 60

Deputy

Watson 54
Flint 35
Healey 20
Eagle 18
Bradshaw 15
Creasy 14
Ali 13

[Phony Moderate]

It's slightly dickish to nominate someone who is already at 35 or more imo.

[You kip if you want to...]

It's slightly dickish to nominate someone who is already at 35 or more imo.

It's a messed up system.

It's so open to ambitious MPs being terrified of voting Corbyn or Creagh to widen the debate, in case Burnham/Cooper/Kendall pass them over for promotion.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The threshold is as high as it is historical reasons (specifically Benn declaring in 1988 that he was going to challenge Kinnock for the leadership every year, come what may), but in these less fractious times there's a decent case for a downwards revision.

Maps updated, btw.

[Famous Mortimer]

Meanwhile in America, you can get into Republican presidential debates even if you've never held office.

[Andrea]

Just because Benn has been just mentioned...a pointless info...Kendall was the runner up in 2001 Chesterfield selection to succeed Benn

[joevsimp]

It's slightly dickish to nominate someone who is already at 35 or more imo.

It's a messed up system.

It's so open to ambitious MPs being terrified of voting Corbyn or Creagh to widen the debate, in case Burnham/Cooper/Kendall pass them over for promotion.

wasn't it encouraged last time though, I think even DM ended up nominating Diane Abbot, although that was fairly blatant tokenism that neither of those two are likely to recieve

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Just because Benn has been just mentioned...a pointless info...Kendall was the runner up in 2001 Chesterfield selection to succeed Benn

Yes, that's a fun little fact. I think it's fair to presume that she would have been a rather better candidate than the man actually selected, but then your average homeless crack addict would have been a better candidate than he...

[Silent Hunter]

Kendall is Tony Blair in a dress.

Tony Blair won three general elections, so that's not exactly a bad thing.

[Phony Moderate]

Kendall is Tony Blair in a dress.

Tony Blair won three general elections, so that's not exactly a bad thing.

And is one of the reasons for Labour losing the last two.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Healey has withdrawn from the Deputy contest, citing concerns about the possibility of their only being two candidates on the ballot. Given that he was the most likely other candidate to make the ballot this looks like a rare example of political self denialism.

[Hifly]

Kendall is Tony Blair in a dress.

Tony Blair won three general elections, so that's not exactly a bad thing.

And is one of the reasons for Labour losing the last two.

In the highly unlikely event that Kendall wins, expect an exodus of grassroots members.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

You think so? I think it's more likely that we'd see crippling factional conflict.

[Hifly]

You think so? I think it's more likely that we'd see crippling factional conflict.

Indeed, apart from greater exaggerated threats from certain figures and factions to disaffiliate and cut funding, it'll harm the CLP grassroots. Members in mine have threatened to resign membership if it does happen, unfortunately (although my CLP does have a particularly Bennite tendency).

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Where would they go? I mean, maybe it'll inspire some movement to Plaid in Wales (which I doubt); but what party would Labour activists go in Emgland?

[ChrisDR68]

Where would they go? I mean, maybe it'll inspire some movement to Plaid in Wales (which I doubt); but what party would Labour activists go in Emgland?

Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party would seem to be the obvious choice I would think.

[Phony Moderate]

Many will recall that Blair took over the party by arguing that it needed to get with the times. Now his creatures want to take the party back a least a decade.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Where would they go? I mean, maybe it'll inspire some movement to Plaid in Wales (which I doubt); but what party would Labour activists go in Emgland?

The usual precedent is that when Party activists cease to be so, they mostly cease all political activity.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'll do another map update this evening, probably with an entirely new Deputy one to reflect the new state of play.

[Oakvale]

Kendall is Tony Blair in a dress.

Tony Blair won three general elections, so that's not exactly a bad thing.

And is one of the reasons for Labour losing the last two.

...what?

[Hnv1]

I saw in the newstatesman a piece claiming Scotland's lost and Labour should merge with LibDem in England-Wales, how likely would a new leader from the party's right espouse this? especially if Farron leads the LD