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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: May 08, 2015, 08:19:48 PM »

I'm extremely suspicious of Burnham's NHS policy from that sound-bite description of it but it's not immediately obvious to me what's involved in the policy or at stake with it. Could somebody explain its good points (if any) and bad points (if any) from a leftist point of view?
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 08:18:47 PM »

Perhaps this is an argument for skipping a political generation, to choose a leader first elected after 2005.

Miliband was first elected in 2005.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2015, 03:42:29 PM »

Jamie Reed (Copeland) is considering standing.

Who?
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2015, 03:33:52 AM »

My own prediction is that everyone besides Burnham and Umunna will be irrelevent. Umunna will be seen as the frontrunner until the last couple of weeks but Burnham will just pip him. Burnham will then be torn apart by the right-wing press on the basis of his accent and everyone will then blather on about how much better a leader Umunna would have been.

What's Burnham sound like?
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 04:14:06 PM »

All in all none of them are PM material with Kendall likely to have the widest appeal among people who didn't vote Labour in either 2010 or 2015.

Is 'being PM material' (and having 'ceilings'), in this sense, really that relevant a concept in the United Kingdom? Serious question.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 10:25:52 PM »

Today I learned that increasing the size of single-member constituencies is part of making politics more local.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 09:57:36 AM »

oakvale's observation could also be made about George W. Bush, and most people other than a very specific type of hack would roundly decry it as missing the point.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2015, 10:21:31 PM »
« Edited: July 13, 2015, 10:24:13 PM by sex-negative feminist prude »

As for the child benefits issue: Limiting the credits to the first two children is something popular with the country at large. People can't see why they should have to pay for those who can't engage in proper family planning, especially if they can't afford to have three or four kids themselves.

Because the parents aren't the only people who have to live in those families, you see.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2015, 07:47:44 PM »

If you keep having children when you can't afford the ones you already have, that's child abuse and your children should be taken away.

Some would say it's child abuse to break up families for having the temerity to be poor.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 04:54:59 AM »

Corbyn left his wife over what?
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2015, 01:02:37 AM »

I honestly think that many in the party's establishment view a Corbyn victory as the least-worst outcome now, hoping that he will eff up to the extent that he can be replaced with Dan Jarvis or whoever a couple of years down the line.

Where does Jarvis stand in the party? Is he significantly to the right of someone like Burnham in his policies?

I'm not British so British posters should feel free to correct me but my understanding is that Jarvis is essentially on the leftward edge of the right wing of Labour.
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