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Rhode Island celebrating Victory Day
 
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Southern state holidays dedicated to Jefferson Davis and/or Robert E. Lee
 
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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: May 02, 2015, 02:43:25 PM »

Rhode Island celebrates nuclear weapons and hatred of Japanese people.

Some southern states celebrate traitors. Some even group Robert E. Lee with MLK and call it Lee-King Day!

But what is more racist?
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 02:45:02 PM »

Option 2. Better dead than a slave.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2015, 05:45:46 PM »

The latter, duh (not some weirdo confedora lover)
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 05:50:29 PM »

Only one of these is racist.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 05:52:56 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 06:20:23 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

So celebrating the 4th of July is racist against the British?

I realize it's a joke but it's stupid.

What about V-E Day?
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 06:38:27 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

So celebrating the 4th of July is racist against the British?

I realize it's a joke but it's stupid.

What about V-E Day?
And why would they celebrate V-E Day and not the front the US actually had the largest part in winning?

Because nearly twice as many American veterans died in the European theater then the Pacific theater?
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2015, 07:20:49 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 07:22:28 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

So celebrating the 4th of July is racist against the British?

I realize it's a joke but it's stupid.

What about V-E Day?
And why would they celebrate V-E Day and not the front the US actually had the largest part in winning?

Because nearly twice as many American veterans died in the European theater then the Pacific theater?
You didn't answer my question, why wouldn't they celebrate the end of the Jpanese front?

That's not what you originally said. It's quoted right there. You asked why V-E Day would be celebrated and I gave you an answer.

Your other question is a stupid question because I never said the end of the war with Japan shouldn't be celebrated.

If Victory Day is meant to celebrate the end of WWII as a whole then of course there's no problem with it. Most articles I've seen focus, perhaps improperly, only on the Pacific theater. If veterans of that theater deserve a holiday in commemoration, then certainly the day, or another day, should equally honor those who died in the fight against the Nazis.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2015, 07:23:31 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist. It's also pro-nuclear weapons. Those combined reasons are the reasons why it's not a federal holiday anymore. Only Rhode Island still celebrates it.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2015, 08:20:23 PM »
« Edited: May 02, 2015, 09:13:56 PM by Assemblyman Harry S Truman »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist.

This is nonsensical. We weren't fighting the Japanese because they were Japanese; we were fighting the Japanese because they bombed us. There were certainly some racist actions taken by the US during the war, but that hardly makes celebrating Victory Day racist.


That's like arguing that the Fourth of July is "pro tar-and-feathering" or that Bastille Day is "pro-guillotine". I'd add that, unlike both of those examples, the use of the atom bomb probably reduced the death toll in the long run, as the only alternative - a land invasion of Japan - would have been a bloodbath. Secretary of War Henry Stimson estimated that as many as four million Americans would be killed in such an operation (to say nothing of the Japanese casualties), compared to less than 300,000 killed at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Obviously, it would have been preferable for 0 people to die, but that's not how things work in war.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 08:23:36 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist.

This is nonsensical. We weren't fighting the Japanese because they were Japanese; we were fighting the Japanese because they bombed us. There were certainly some racist actions taken by the US during the war, but that hardly makes celebrating Victory Day racist.


That's like arguing that the Fourth of July is "pro tar-and-feathering" or that Bastille Day is "pro-guillotine".

Unlike those two dates, nuclear weapons were actually the reason for Victory Day.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2015, 09:13:29 PM »

Uh, Truman, I never said what you quoted me as saying. Please change that.

My apologies. I was trying to quote "I'm a RINO", but instead quoted your response to him by accident. I assure you it was not intentional.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2015, 09:27:47 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2015, 09:35:04 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

Since the day marks the surrender of the Japanese, it's somewhat racist.

This is nonsensical. We weren't fighting the Japanese because they were Japanese; we were fighting the Japanese because they bombed us. There were certainly some racist actions taken by the US during the war, but that hardly makes celebrating Victory Day racist.


That's like arguing that the Fourth of July is "pro tar-and-feathering" or that Bastille Day is "pro-guillotine".

Unlike those two dates, nuclear weapons were actually the reason for Victory Day.

The US victory in the Pacific Theater was the result of four years of fighting in the Pacific Theater. The use of the atom bomb at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was crucial, but hardly all-encompassing; therefore, arguing that Victory Day is a celebration of nuclear weapons is inaccurate. Were the holiday in question "Hiroshima Day", or were it on the anniversary of the dropping of the atom bomb, that would be different.
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2015, 09:52:53 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2015, 12:23:56 AM »

what a stupid thread and question.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2015, 11:46:04 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2015, 01:36:35 PM »

Neither are inherently racist, but the 2nd is probably celebrated for racist purposes.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2015, 01:53:23 PM »

Rhode Island celebrates nuclear weapons and hatred of Japanese people.

Some southern states celebrate traitors. Some even group Robert E. Lee with MLK and call it Lee-King Day!

But what is more racist?

Option 2 by far I would like Victory day as a national holiday in the US : we need a holiday in August
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2015, 02:02:04 PM »

I'm so surprised that The Obamanation doesn't know what racism means.

(just kidding)
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2015, 03:09:16 PM »

Option 2 (normal).
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2015, 04:27:23 PM »

Celebrating the end of WW2 is racist because it happened against Japanese?

So celebrating the 4th of July is racist against the British?

I realize it's a joke but it's stupid.
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 06:43:55 PM »

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