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« on: May 08, 2015, 04:04:09 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Secretary-General_selection,_2016

There seems to be a strong push for a female Secretary-General.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2015, 04:06:02 PM »

KRudd 4 World Leader
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2015, 04:12:36 PM »

Kevin Rudd would be cool.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2015, 08:02:14 PM »


Umm, no?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2015, 08:38:28 PM »

Helle Thorning-Schmidt would be a good choice.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2015, 08:57:42 PM »

I've said it before, the Bulgarian UNESCO chief seems like the favourite here.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 09:55:39 PM »

Helle Thorning-Schmidt would be a good choice.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2015, 09:56:01 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 05:00:36 PM »

Since I've brought up Ban Ki-moon's political future recently, I thought this deserved a bump. Irina Bokova still appears to be as much of a shoe-in as ever. This may very well turn out to be the least competitive Secretary-General election (note to Retromike: this is an election rather than a "selection") since Dag Hammarskjöld was chosen back in 1956. No viable competitor to Bolkova appears to have emerged as of yet. I consider to be so heavily favoured for the post for three reasons--

1. She's a woman. There has not as of yet been a woman Secretary-General, which seems a glaring omission for an organisation as progressive (not necessarily in the American sense) as the United Nations, especially considering its recent push for women's rights. There was a significant clamour from many quarters for a woman to be elected back in 2006, which failed despite receiving support from some permanent members of the Security Council, as well as the incumbent Kofi Annan, primarily because it was then felt that the Secretary-General should come from an Asian country (it is said that China would have actually vetoed a non-Asian candidate), and (apparently) no suitable female Asian candidate could be found. Now, however, the feeling is that a woman is long overdue for the post and should be elected.

2. She's from Eastern Europe. There also has not yet been a Secretary-General from the Eastern European Group, which essentially is the former Eastern Bloc. The UN has more recently tended to rotate the post between regions, and the fact that no Secretary-General has come from this region suggests that they would naturally be in line for a turn.

3 She would be accepted by the Russians. The problem with most potential candidates in Eastern Europe, women included, is that their career in multinational organisations (if they have had one) has involved a stint in the European Union. Most potential candidates from this region, therefore, are likely to be pro-European and, by, extension, anti-Russian. The UN has until now shied away from career politicians, and this now seems unlikely to change-- and even if not, any officeholder nominated by a contemporary government would almost certainly be just as pro-European, if not more. Russia, of course, can veto any candidate it did not find to its liking. It would appear that there would be no acceptable candidate, woman or not, from Eastern Europe-- if not for Bokova. Bokova was Bulgaria's foreign minister back in the 1990s but has not been involved in front-line politics since, instead holding a number of diplomatic posts before becoming UNESCO chief. To sweeten the deal even further for the Russians, she is a member of the Socialist Party and studied in the Soviet Union (but also in the United States).

Thus we are essentially left with one person who fits the desired criteria for Secretary-General.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2015, 06:14:25 PM »


Lmao
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 06:20:41 PM »

Omg i have intention for puking when i see Miroslav Lajcak on every candidacy list.  He started to be perenial candidate. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 06:16:18 PM »

Since I've brought up Ban Ki-moon's political future recently, I thought this deserved a bump. Irina Bokova still appears to be as much of a shoe-in as ever. This may very well turn out to be the least competitive Secretary-General election (note to Retromike: this is an election rather than a "selection") since Dag Hammarskjöld was chosen back in 1956. No viable competitor to Bolkova appears to have emerged as of yet. I consider to be so heavily favoured for the post for three reasons--

1. She's a woman. There has not as of yet been a woman Secretary-General, which seems a glaring omission for an organisation as progressive (not necessarily in the American sense) as the United Nations, especially considering its recent push for women's rights. There was a significant clamour from many quarters for a woman to be elected back in 2006, which failed despite receiving support from some permanent members of the Security Council, as well as the incumbent Kofi Annan, primarily because it was then felt that the Secretary-General should come from an Asian country (it is said that China would have actually vetoed a non-Asian candidate), and (apparently) no suitable female Asian candidate could be found. Now, however, the feeling is that a woman is long overdue for the post and should be elected.

2. She's from Eastern Europe. There also has not yet been a Secretary-General from the Eastern European Group, which essentially is the former Eastern Bloc. The UN has more recently tended to rotate the post between regions, and the fact that no Secretary-General has come from this region suggests that they would naturally be in line for a turn.

3 She would be accepted by the Russians. The problem with most potential candidates in Eastern Europe, women included, is that their career in multinational organisations (if they have had one) has involved a stint in the European Union. Most potential candidates from this region, therefore, are likely to be pro-European and, by, extension, anti-Russian. The UN has until now shied away from career politicians, and this now seems unlikely to change-- and even if not, any officeholder nominated by a contemporary government would almost certainly be just as pro-European, if not more. Russia, of course, can veto any candidate it did not find to its liking. It would appear that there would be no acceptable candidate, woman or not, from Eastern Europe-- if not for Bokova. Bokova was Bulgaria's foreign minister back in the 1990s but has not been involved in front-line politics since, instead holding a number of diplomatic posts before becoming UNESCO chief. To sweeten the deal even further for the Russians, she is a member of the Socialist Party and studied in the Soviet Union (but also in the United States).

Thus we are essentially left with one person who fits the desired criteria for Secretary-General.

Great post, Simfan, just to add a few things - and a potential development from today which may alter the picture:
- something which works to Mrs. Bokova's advantage in this process is that she is a genuine francophille - in fact she is the only Bulgarian politician I can think of right now who fits that description. She has cultivated a lot of connections in her time in Paris, especially within the PS, and the impression I've got is that the French are actively promoting her candidacy.
- Her retirement from front line politics was... not entirely voluntary, but the skeletons lie mostly in her family's closet, not here own. Her father was a nasty piece of work, but that's not really relevant.
- something which works to her disadvantage is her (perceived or not) pro-Palestinian outlook. AFAIK, Washington would be okay with her as secretary general - not happy, but okay - if it wasn't for the Israel issue.

This may or may not have something to do with today's development which is that a competitor for the position may have emerged - Bulgaria's EU commissioner Kristalina Georgieva has been laying the groundwork for a while and now we have some indications that she may have thrown her hat into the ring. Her profile and career are probably as good as Bokova's at his point and she has the significant advantage of actually belonging to the Bulgarian governing party - the Bulgarian government can only nominate one candidate for the position. Of course, as Simfan points out, there is a strong possibility that Russia would veto Mrs. Georgieva's nomination, but the position of the Foreign ministry is that it's better to exert the effort for somebody they actually know and support, who has about 20% chance of being elected, instead of somebody who has not been based in Bulgaria for 15 years and belongs to an opposition party, even though she might have a 60% chance of being elected.

In the end, Borisov will probably decide to give the nod to Bokova - after all, Bulgaria's already spent about $15 mil for lobbying for her - but there's a chance for her to lose the race before it's even officially started.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2016, 09:04:14 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2016, 09:05:54 AM by Simfan34 »

Working at the UN now, and Bokova still seems likely. The French will still veto anyone who doesn't speak the language. Ban seems to have tricked them on this.

On Monday they had a debate.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2016, 10:11:55 AM »

The French will still veto anyone who doesn't speak the language.

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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2016, 03:46:06 AM »

Working at the UN now, and Bokova still seems likely. The French will still veto anyone who doesn't speak the language. Ban seems to have tricked them on this.

On Monday they had a debate.

Please tell me there's a completely justified rationale for this.
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2016, 04:12:49 AM »

Working at the UN now, and Bokova still seems likely. The French will still veto anyone who doesn't speak the language. Ban seems to have tricked them on this.

On Monday they had a debate.

Please tell me there's a completely justified rationale for this.

C'est la langue de Molière, pardi!
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2016, 04:38:10 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2016, 09:34:59 PM »

Helle Thorning-Schmidt would be a good choice.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2016, 06:59:16 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2016, 07:25:15 AM »


No. Just, no.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2016, 02:28:35 PM »

Dalia Grybauskaitė! Cheesy Cheesy


(fine, ok, I guess Russia wouldn't let that happen)
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2016, 08:44:34 AM »



Neither of these people are candidates.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2016, 11:28:02 AM »

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First Security Council Straw Poll Results
Encourage  Discourage  No Opinion
António Guterres1203
Danilo Türk1122
Irina Bokova942
Vuk Jeremić951
Srgjan Kerim951
Helen Clark852
Miroslav Lajčák735
Susana Malcorra744
Christiana Figueres  555
Natalia Gherman447
Igor Lukšić375
Vesna Pusić2112

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2016, 03:30:16 PM »

If Rudd actually wants this he should probably announce at some point.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2016, 07:10:38 PM »

If Rudd actually wants this he should probably announce at some point.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/turnbull-yet-to-endorse-rudd-for-un-top-job/7650308

He's waiting for government support from Canberra.
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