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« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2015, 02:04:37 AM »

She has the gall to whine about how "white people" are the problem when in reality they are the reason she has anything she does today. Odds are she would just be some random subsistence farm girl, probably raped multiple times by randoms had it not been for these white people she hates so much.

There, I said it.

you might even say it's the White Man's Burden to uplift these savages, amirite
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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2015, 02:19:05 AM »

Some SJW hate white men sometimes because in SJ world, all they think about is systems of oppression constantly, and oppression is usually in the form of whiteness and maleness. Intellectually, you can separate it out, but emotionally you can't always. This is where you see people on tumblr saying that they hate. They are responding to something tangible. At those times it can help to think about something tangible in the opposite direction. It's corny but, here we are, on the Internet, invented by Tim Berners-Lee. That's pretty cool, is it not?

This doesn't deny white male privilege. On the contrary, it's a part of privilege- to the extent that creation and giving and shaping things are a part of what it means to be human. The particular role of being a creator is more important even holding power. We on the left don't like to talk about it sometimes because unlike power and justice, it cannot be given by anyone. The creator is, by definition originating something new, something from his perspective. So we talk about equal opportunity instead (which is all we can do). But the end goal is the opportunity to create, the opportunity to contribute. Animals can have power, and they may even have a sense of fairness, but only humans create. We like our creators, like we like our heroes, and generally with good reason. It's a good antidote to hate to think about them.
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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2015, 03:16:32 AM »

Drunk White Man Has Opinions, Most Of Them Are Racist.
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« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2015, 07:45:39 AM »

Well I am awake and sober, and I am kind of bored and it is a Saturday.  With that said, and my moderate hero attitude to respectfully address even scientific racists, I must begin this long journey to educate and enlighten poor misguided souls.

I would beg the forgiveness of the rest of the forum.


From personal experience bro let me tell you that posting drunk isn't always a bad idea.  However, if you are drunk you should never preface it on a post like this.  Claiming you are drunk isn't going to do jack shit to help your cause bro.  If anything on a forum of intellectual Puritan prude bloods it's going to make you look like a savage ingrate who blames his inner securities and problems on his tendency to drink.

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At least you have the decency to apologize instead of saying "not to sound racist here.. . . .  . BUT!"  Though I do have to wonder exactly what purpose it serves for you to say you will put this "frankly".  May I ask what "non-frankly" would look like?  "Non-whites just don't understand!"?

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Largely because Western people have traditionally been on the winning side of history.  It is very easy to claim to be the most enlightened people in history when your people have had the fortune of being winners instead of losers.  Of course, you leave out a lot of things, like how the Middle Eastern world was a thriving civilization that was a leader in practically all fields of learning, medical, and technological advances before they had the misfortune of being wiped out by the Mongol wave.  Also, it is unfair to base how East Asians would have treated black people compared to whites when the latter have generally had much more experience with blacks than the former.  Asians generally enslaved other Asians while whitey enslaved Native Americans, Celticy people, Slavs, blacks, and even their own lower classes.  In fact, the mass enslavement that people of all races committed within their own race/ethnic groups is one of the untold stories of history.

The Intellectual Dishonesty here is strong.

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Yes because again they ran into a bit of bad luck.  It has nothing to do with any inherent "goodness" or "superiority" of white civilization.  Ironically enough, it was because of bad luck the Europeans became triumphant as they did, as the Black Death wiped out enough upper class and lower class people to facilitate the conditions necessary to expand the infant artisan and merchant classes, the main drivers of said advancement.

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Because again, they happened to be the first to develop the "way of doing things".  Point largely being that Western Civilization is in such a position of privilege that they don't have to deal with the problems that arise out of living in a third world country.

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And again you are basing this off of what has actually happened.  In the scenarios you put into this little paragraph you seemed to have ignored the initial butterflies.  I won't address blacks conquering Europe because your point about the technologically superior power immediately addresses that question in a surprisingly good way, which is a very stark contrast to the rest of your drunken rant.  However, your points about black civil disobedience in China or India seems to presume such reactions against the disobedience based off of what has transpired in this reality.  We don't have the experience of living in a reality where there was a Chinese or Indian society that relied heavily on a black slave economy to come to that kind of conclusion that you reached in the bolded.  Peoples' views are drive by experience, a point that you do lightly agree with but seem to want to keep de-emphasized because it hurts your points about the poor white man and his abused legacy at the hands of bitter minority college age pseudo-intellectuals.

The problem seems to be though that while do you acknowledge that white people largely claimed the mantle of enlightenment due to luck more than anything, you seem to assume that Chinese and Indians would have made the KKK look like bleedingheart anti-racist socialists due to how they view blacks in the recent world history (circa 1500-presents) where white culture and white society was dominant and ruled the world on and off.  Which is not to completely ignore that said histories (Indian and Chinese) had their own liberal amounts of genocides and mass rapes and other shit, some of which occurred well before whitey showed up often against people of the same ethnicity.  However, that goes back to your own point about how societies in a position of dominance generally are in a position to abuse the less off to strengthen their own position.  Honestly, you were doing well here until you started making assumptions about what would happen in Alternate Reality X, then you just went downhill into a sewage ditch and got AIDSbola.

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . wow.
You see, this is why people don't like you Cory.  I mean damn it man, you aren't making this easy on me!  You, like many other people, seem to be on this assumption that people not like you are ungrateful morons who are hell bent on being pissed off and not liking whitey.  That could really be further from the truth, as at least I really do want to like you pal.  I mean I consider myself to be a very cordial friendly person who wants to treat everyone with respect and decency and at least consider their opinions even if I consider said opinion to be extremely controversial (okay, history as it actually happened is something I am very passionate about defending, but other than that personal political views I try to be lenient on).
However, when you say horseshit like this?  Man dude, why?  Why do you make it so fucking easy for people on this website to despise you man?  I would have thought that someone who has been on here since at least 2013 would have taken a hint by now that generally making not at all subtly racist eugenics laden posts would not be a good thing.  I would have also thought that with all the education in the world that you have had you would have at least been a decent enough person to eventually regret your earlier racial views.  So far, sadly, this has not happened.  As much as I have wanted it to be you are still very much a resentful white racist who seems to be struggling at times between what he has observed and read from history and his own inner feelings of insecurity with people of other races.  Really, there is not much separating you from ChairmanSanchez, except that he has at least in the past acknowledged that he has (like myself and maybe a few others) struggled with anti-black racism.
It is easy for one to condemn the resentment and bitterness of non-whites and poors when one is not one themselves.  You don't understand how it feels to be black in America.  Shit man I don't understand what it's like to be black in America!  Nor will I ever be able to understand it, no matter how much history I know.  That is the fallacy that millions of white Americans make every year when they have reactions like yours to non-white intellectuals who point out the inequalities of society.  Do I genuinely believe that calling entire population demographics "a problem" is racist as hell?  You damn right I do.  However, that doesn't give me license to badmouth a woman and her demographic group as embittered ungrateful rubes especially when I have no idea what it is like to be a non-white female.

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Yes you did.  And if there is any justice in this world one day you will look back on this post and feel inmeasurable shame.  I pray to Aqua Buddha that day is today.

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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2015, 09:18:53 AM »
« Edited: May 09, 2015, 02:11:54 PM by DemPGH »

Okay. This is why I never took sociology or women's studies, etc. I took psychology for "social sciences." Essentially, I wanted to avoid people like this, that's the truth. Liberal straight white guy wearing aviator sunglasses and a Yankees cap and interested in Medieval History, I did not want to deal with people like this, and certain fields of study had this reputation back then. Maybe worse then. There were these angry, bitter people around, but also a lot of '60s era burnouts who were still hanging on (and I guess that went for other fields as well).

Basically, there are ways to have these discussions that don't alienate people. She sounds like she's just grinding an ax. I understand that there are people who do that, though, but it's not my cup of tea.

African American woman in the top 5% of income earners

Assistant profs are in the top 5%? LOL.

Fewer and fewer men are pursuing liberal arts degrees, or college generally. Things like this make me wonder if there isn't a concerted effort among some in academia to make sure this trend continues.

The arts can be very unwelcoming, yeah - certain people seem to delight in making it that way, but I'm also sure that there is probably a level of pragmatism at play here too. These men can go become welders and make more money.
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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2015, 09:44:16 AM »

Fewer and fewer men are pursuing liberal arts degrees, or college generally. Things like this make me wonder if there isn't a concerted effort among some in academia to make sure this trend continues.
Outside of STEM and business, guys are definitely in the minority.  Honestly, state legislatures should defund humanities and divert it to STEM if crap like this continues unabated
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« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2015, 11:02:42 AM »

There is plenty of work to be done in the name of ethnic equality, but this mentality pisses me off. She has the gall to whine about how "white people" are the problem when in reality they are the reason she has anything she does today. Odds are she would just be some random subsistence farm girl, probably raped multiple times by randoms had it not been for these white people she hates so much.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . wow.

It's almost impressive how much offensive crap he can fit into one post. "Whoa, almost hit Post without making a rape reference, too! Better edit that in!"
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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2015, 11:34:17 AM »

ITT: White nerds maaaaad
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2015, 11:36:24 AM »

Cory, I like you and all, you're a better person than people think you are, but please don't post while drunk. You know it never works out.
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« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2015, 11:49:11 AM »

So she's just an assistant professor? Not even the head professor of a subject, or a department head? So the only power she has is teaching in a certain way? So why should I care?
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« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2015, 11:57:09 AM »

  me whir nerd mad  me hate woman  me can't stand this bitch
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« Reply #61 on: May 09, 2015, 12:00:21 PM »

Fewer and fewer men are pursuing liberal arts degrees, or college generally. Things like this make me wonder if there isn't a concerted effort among some in academia to make sure this trend continues.

That fewer people takes a liberal art degree is a good thing, so let's support the continued transformation of them into a ghetto for the privileged.
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« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2015, 12:11:12 PM »

Fewer and fewer men are pursuing liberal arts degrees, or college generally. Things like this make me wonder if there isn't a concerted effort among some in academia to make sure this trend continues.
Outside of STEM and business, guys are definitely in the minority.  Honestly, state legislatures should defund humanities and divert it to STEM if crap like this continues unabated
It's not crap like this that is the reason to defund the humanities.  It's that there is such a glut of humanities majors, there's no reason to subsidize them.  The problem is that the way academia is set up is that at the student level its hard to separate funding. Rather than funding students, it probably would be more effective to fund professors directly in the area where they are desired.  That's sort of indirectly happening now, but a more direct funding would likely get the message across clearer.
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« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2015, 12:15:45 PM »


Largely because Western people have traditionally been on the winning side of history.  It is very easy to claim to be the most enlightened people in history when your people have had the fortune of being winners instead of losers.  Of course, you leave out a lot of things, like how the Middle Eastern world was a thriving civilization that was a leader in practically all fields of learning, medical, and technological advances before they had the misfortune of being wiped out by the Mongol wave.  Also, it is unfair to base how East Asians would have treated black people compared to whites when the latter have generally had much more experience with blacks than the former.  Asians generally enslaved other Asians while whitey enslaved Native Americans, Celticy people, Slavs, blacks, and even their own lower classes.  In fact, the mass enslavement that people of all races committed within their own race/ethnic groups is one of the untold stories of history.

The Mongolians didn't wipe out some Arabic enlightening, it was already dying when they arrive and ended it completely, BTW Syria not Bagdad was the centre of it as it existed. As for the slavery issue, the Arabs was everybit our equals in it, from the chattel slavery of the Mesopotanian delta, to the slave armies of Egypt and the Ottomans, the slaver states across the Sahel, East Africa and Ukraine.

As for the Chinese and Mughals their treatment of conquered neighbours was everybit as brutal as anything Europeans did. They all did when they was the winners of history not losers.
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« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2015, 12:17:01 PM »

Fewer and fewer men are pursuing liberal arts degrees, or college generally. Things like this make me wonder if there isn't a concerted effort among some in academia to make sure this trend continues.
Outside of STEM and business, guys are definitely in the minority.  Honestly, state legislatures should defund humanities and divert it to STEM if crap like this continues unabated
It's not crap like this that is the reason to defund the humanities.  It's that there is such a glut of humanities majors, there's no reason to subsidize them.  The problem is that the way academia is set up is that at the student level its hard to separate funding. Rather than funding students, it probably would be more effective to fund professors directly in the area where they are desired.  That's sort of indirectly happening now, but a more direct funding would likely get the message across clearer.

That's sound like a wonderful idea.
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« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2015, 12:33:00 PM »

ITT:

Slavs and celtics aren't white.

K thx bye.

Will you explain this post, please?
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« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2015, 01:10:23 PM »

She has the gall to whine about how "white people" are the problem when in reality they are the reason she has anything she does today. Odds are she would just be some random subsistence farm girl, probably raped multiple times by randoms had it not been for these white people she hates so much.

There, I said it.

you might even say it's the White Man's Burden to uplift these savages, amirite

^^^Exactly what I thought when I read that post.

I presume Cory will be the first to defend all of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples#The_question_of_colonization_and_genocide_in_the_Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_Western_European_colonialism_and_colonisation

etc.
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« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2015, 01:32:08 PM »

There is plenty of work to be done in the name of ethnic equality, but this mentality pisses me off. She has the gall to whine about how "white people" are the problem when in reality they are the reason she has anything she does today.

Cory 2016.
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« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2015, 01:36:39 PM »
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That's where the fundamental disagreement lies. When discrimination against whites occurs in the modern age, it is just as wrong.  It doesn't mean that it's equal to 3/5ths/slavery/oppression/racial segregation, but the act of discrimination is as wrong against a white person as it is a black person.

The way we addressed the setbacks of the past is we changed them. They've been addressed.

For those who support affirmative action, at what point do we end "Addressing the setbacks of the past?"  We're at over 50 years now since segregation has been outlawed and we haven't seen any signs of it since.  Upwardly mobile AA's in places like Atlanta , etc.  

Essentially, the argument for affirmative action is that it's okay to discriminate because we did it in the past. And I think most Americans would agree with the opposition stance in that regard. Of course, we don't have a Republican Party that is willing to talk about racial issues or oppose the Democrat rhetoric
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« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2015, 02:24:12 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2015, 02:29:42 PM »


ITT: cuckolding
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« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2015, 02:40:40 PM »

I don't really care about this. But it's not hard to figure out why no one really takes non-STEM academia seriously.

The real victims are her students who will find themselves 100K in debt just to end up pouring cups of coffee.
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« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2015, 02:41:56 PM »

ITT: White people complaining about other white people.
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« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2015, 04:44:41 PM »

Ugh, I'm a STEM student but there's nothing I loathe more than stemjerking.
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« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2015, 05:03:05 PM »

Essentially, the argument for affirmative action is that it's okay to discriminate because we did it in the past. And I think most Americans would agree with the opposition stance in that regard. Of course, we don't have a Republican Party that is willing to talk about racial issues or oppose the Democrat rhetoric
No, the argument for affirmative action is that it's cheaper to help a minority that is disproportionately disadvantaged than it would be to provide help to all who are disadvantaged.
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