Ralph Nader should invest his time and money better

[muon2]

Why should the people who voted for Jim Robinson have another choice. They chose a candidate, he lost, get over it.

Alternatively, if there is a system with no winner over 50%, shouldn't the public have the time to scrutinize the two front-runners? That means a real run off, not an IRV. Sometimes we're too hung up on getting a winner right away. A wiser path is to educate those who didn't pick one of the two front runners on their relative merits.

[Speed of Sound]

Why should the people who voted for Jim Robinson have another choice. They chose a candidate, he lost, get over it.

Alternatively, if there is a system with no winner over 50%, shouldn't the public have the time to scrutinize the two front-runners? That means a real run off, not an IRV. Sometimes we're too hung up on getting a winner right away. A wiser path is to educate those who didn't pick one of the two front runners on their relative merits.

That is a very good idea. You should try to get somewhere with that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

while the runoff system is better than the current one, it isn't perfect (France 2002).

Still I'd rather have it than what we have now. Some states have run-offs for primaries anyway.

[Speed of Sound]

i agree with you on that. The problem with coming up with a new sstem is that a lot of people are so used to the old system that its going to take a really good system to convince people to take up a new system.

[Ebowed]

Bandit: when did Clinton explicitly come out in favor of school uniforms?

[MODU]

Bandit: when did Clinton explicitly come out in favor of school uniforms?

I don't recall when, but I do remember at one point he was discussing the merit of school uniforms (provide 'equality' in the classroom).  This came following the huge wave of student assault due to shoe brands, jackets . . . even book bags.  I support school uniforms, not only to limit such status-inequality between students, but also as a way to remind kids that they are at school to learn.  One of the perks of private/military schools.

[Ebowed]

I didn't realize school uniforms was such a big political issue. 

[MODU]

I didn't realize school uniforms was such a big political issue. 

hahaha . . . ANYTHING can be a big political issue.   

[Brandon H]

When I was in school, I thought uniforms were bad. Now that I am older and out of school, I do see the good points of them. However, this issue should be decided by each individual school / school board including parents, teachers, students, and administrators.

[Speed of Sound]

When I was in school, I thought uniforms were bad. Now that I am older and out of school, I do see the good points of them. However, this issue should be decided by each individual school / school board including parents, teachers, students, and administrators.

I personally oppose uniforms for schools, but i agree with your proposition to have it chosen school by school.

[MaC]

I have a good deal of respect for third party candidates, even ones with veiws I disagree with because of the difficulty they most go through to get elected.  However it's time for Nader to retire.  The 2004 run was a horrible idea because
1.third party air time was taken away from my party
2.Democrats hated him, Republicans hated him, but saw him as a tool
3.All he talked about was how much he hated Bush and the corporate parties
4.He probably took a good portion of votes from the Green Party, and David Cobb was a really good candidate for them.

There, now everyone's pissed at you Nader-you suck!

[© tweed]

When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was about a campaign strategy for Ralph Nader to increase him share of the vote.  But thank god that LiberalPA doesn't want Nader to run again. 

In the past 5 years, Nader has gone from having a positive effect on the world to now having a negative effect.

[Speed of Sound]

When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was about a campaign strategy for Ralph Nader to increase him share of the vote.  But thank god that LiberalPA doesn't want Nader to run again. 

In the past 5 years, Nader has gone from having a positive effect on the world to now having a negative effect.

Well, the nonstop attacks from the major parties (notably The Democratic Party) hasnt helped the 3rd party cause, either.

[Inmate Trump]

I like Nader.  I think he'd make a great president.

But no, he'll never - ever - win.

And that's actually pretty sad.

[jimrtex]

EXAMPLE: The totals in a random schoolboard member race:

          Joe Johnson: 50 votes    36%
              Mary Doe: 45 votes    32%
         Jim Robinson: 43 votes    31%

Why wouldn't it be be to Doe's and Robinson's advantage to run an Anyone But Joe campaign?

[Speed of Sound]

EXAMPLE: The totals in a random schoolboard member race:

          Joe Johnson: 50 votes    36%
              Mary Doe: 45 votes    32%
         Jim Robinson: 43 votes    31%

Why wouldn't it be be to Doe's and Robinson's advantage to run an Anyone But Joe campaign?

I suppose they could, but that is thier choice as a candidate.

[Frodo]

Nader has worn out his welcome with those who otherwise would have been his allies and supporters.  To all intents and purposes, he is spoiled goods and nothing he does now will ever come to fruition as long as the 2000 election dogs his every step.  It is time that he step down, and let another pick up the slack on behalf of his causes, in particular election reform.   

[°Leprechaun]

Nader has helped build the Green party and I think that the Green party definately has a future as an alternative to the Democratics who still lack backbone.