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Rockefeller GOP
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« on: June 07, 2015, 11:45:12 AM »

American Suburbia moves towards the Democrats while the GOP continues to become the party of poor, rural, Southern Whites. 

Only in your wildest wet dreams, pal.

And over my dead body.
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Rockefeller GOP
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2015, 02:35:47 PM »

I was just about to make such a map for New England. Bumping this for all the people who think NH has been trending Republican over the last years Roll Eyes And notice the strong Democratic trend despite the fact that Romney was a MUCH better fit for the state then George W. Bush.

I haven't seen anyone say it's "trending Republican" (very few places didn't after 2008).  That'd be stupid.

Almost as stupid as calling it a "Deep Blue State."
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Rockefeller GOP
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 09:38:51 PM »

American Suburbia moves towards the Democrats while the GOP continues to become the party of poor, rural, Southern Whites. 

Yeah, the Democrats will just abandon fiscal liberalism (and therefore the vast majority of their votes), and the Republicans will just abandon fiscal conservatism (and therefore the vast majority of their votes) and this new reality where your dream of a GOP-branded resurrection of the spirit of the Southern Democrat will reign supreme!!

Poor, rural Southern Whites are a very small minority of GOP voters, dude.

His post was wrong, but this one is as well.

Poor, rural Southern Whites and those who vote like them are a rather sizeable number of the GOP base.

Likewise, Northeastern and Midwestern suburbs have moved and continue to move towards the Democrats. The exurbs, however, are becoming more Republican.

They're sizable, sure, but as I said in another thread, let's not forget the tens of millions of Republicans in New England, the upper Midwest and the West Coast who are virtually unrepresented in DC but are still registered Republicans.

Except that these people deliver almost no electoral votes for the GOP. If you look at the people delivering those votes, they are poor rural whites and southern suburbs (ATL, Houston, Phoenix).

But aren't we talking about who makes up each party?  Republicans who "deliver no electoral votes" for the GOP are still Republicans, and they still shape the primary results, especially on Super Tuesday.
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Rockefeller GOP
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2015, 11:16:53 PM »

American Suburbia moves towards the Democrats while the GOP continues to become the party of poor, rural, Southern Whites. 

Yeah, the Democrats will just abandon fiscal liberalism (and therefore the vast majority of their votes), and the Republicans will just abandon fiscal conservatism (and therefore the vast majority of their votes) and this new reality where your dream of a GOP-branded resurrection of the spirit of the Southern Democrat will reign supreme!!

Poor, rural Southern Whites are a very small minority of GOP voters, dude.

His post was wrong, but this one is as well.

Poor, rural Southern Whites and those who vote like them are a rather sizeable number of the GOP base.

Likewise, Northeastern and Midwestern suburbs have moved and continue to move towards the Democrats. The exurbs, however, are becoming more Republican.

They're sizable, sure, but as I said in another thread, let's not forget the tens of millions of Republicans in New England, the upper Midwest and the West Coast who are virtually unrepresented in DC but are still registered Republicans.

Except that these people deliver almost no electoral votes for the GOP. If you look at the people delivering those votes, they are poor rural whites and southern suburbs (ATL, Houston, Phoenix).

But aren't we talking about who makes up each party?  Republicans who "deliver no electoral votes" for the GOP are still Republicans, and they still shape the primary results, especially on Super Tuesday.

Sure, and we must realize that the numbers of Republicans in those regions have been waning fast and so has their influence been.

Okay, so it's waned from very influential in the '70s to not as influential today?  They still exist...
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