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DS0816
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« on: June 24, 2015, 06:10:01 PM »

What if they were to harp against "Southern backward racism" and whatnot and effectively did they were not welcome in the party? Would voters be more likely to switch sides or form a new party? What would the electoral consequences be, and how long would the GOP need to recover?

They won't do it.

The Republicans' percentage of the U.S. Popular Vote, in recent presidential elections, has accounted for around 90 percent from white voters.

From their base states among the Old Confederacy … they're at a rate of over 100 percent from white voters.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 03:55:18 AM »
« Edited: June 25, 2015, 02:22:01 PM by DS0816 »

What if they were to harp against "Southern backward racism" and whatnot and effectively did they were not welcome in the party? Would voters be more likely to switch sides or form a new party? What would the electoral consequences be, and how long would the GOP need to recover?

They won't do it.

The Republicans' percentage of the U.S. Popular Vote, in recent presidential elections, has accounted for around 90 percent from white voters.

From their base states among the Old Confederacy … they're at a rate of over 100 percent from white voters.

More than 100% of their voters in the South are white? How is that possible? Do white Southern voters vote multiple times?

Not exactly what I was saying.

I'm addressing the Republican Party's dependency on the vote from whites nationwide and numerous states.

But, I'm going to correct myself (after having gone over the numbers).…


According to Chuck Todd and Sheldon Gawiser's How Barack Obama: A State-by-State Guide to the Historic 2008 Presidential Election, here were the results in 2008 for states carried by John McCain:

Alabama (65)Sad Whites/Republican 88% = 57.20% | John McCain: 60.32%; Dependency on whites: 94.82%
Alaska (78)Sad Whites/Republican 65% = 50.70% | John McCain: 59.42%; Dependency on whites: 85.32%
Arizona (75)Sad Whites/Republican 59% = 44.25 | John McCain: 53.39%; Dependency on whites: 82.88%
Arkansas (83)Sad Whites/Republican 68% = 56.44% | John McCain: 58.72%; Dependency on whites: 96.11%
Georgia (65)Sad Whites/Republican 76% = 49.40% | John McCain: 52.10%; Dependency on whites: 94.81%
Idaho (90)Sad Whites/Republican 65% = 58.50% | John McCain: 61.21%; Dependency on whites: 95.57%
Kansas (90)Sad Whites/Republican 59% = 53.10% | John McCain: 56.50%; Dependency on whites: 93.98%
Kentucky (85)Sad Whites/Republican 63% = 53.55% | John McCain: 57.37%; Dependency on whites: 93.34%
Louisiana (65)Sad Whites/Republican 84% = 54.60% | John McCain: 58.56%; Dependency on whites: 93.23%
Mississippi (62)Sad Whites/Republican 88% = 54.56% | John McCain: 56.18%; Dependency on whites: 97.11%
Missouri (82)Sad Whites/Republican 57% = 46.74% | John McCain: 49.36%; Dependency on whites: 94.69%
Montana (90)Sad Whites/Republican 52% = 46.80% | John McCain: 49.49%; Dependency on whites: 94.56%
Nebraska (92)Sad Whites/Republicans 59% = 54.28% | John McCain: 56.53%; Dependency on whites: 96.01%
North Dakota (92)Sad Whites/Republican 55% = 50.60% | John McCain: 53.15%; Dependency on whites: 95.20%
Oklahoma (82)Sad Whites/Republican 71% = 58.22% | John McCain: 65.65%; Dependency on whites: 88.68%
South Carolina (71)Sad Whites/Republican 73% = 51.83% | John McCain: 53.87%; Dependency on whites: 96.21%
South Dakota (90)Sad Whites/Republican 56% = 50.40% | John McCain: 53.16%; Dependency on whites: 94.80%
Tennessee (84)Sad Whites/Republican 63% = 52.92% | John McCain: 56.85%; Dependency on whites: 93.08%
Texas (63)Sad Whites/Republican 73% = 45.99% | John McCain: 55.39%; Dependency on whites: 83.02%
Utah (90)Sad Whites/Republican 66% = 59.40% | John McCain: 62.25%; Dependency on whites: 95.42%
West Virginia (94)Sad Whites/Republican 57% = 53.58% | John McCain: 55.60%; Dependency on whites: 96.36%
Wyoming (91)Sad Whites/Republican 66% = 60.06% | John McCain: 64.78%; Dependency on whites: 92.71%


United States Popular Vote of 2008: Whites (74): Republican/John McCain 55% = 40.70% | John McCain (according to this site): 45.60%; Dependency on whites: 89.25%. (And, note of course, that McCain only managed to carry four of his twenty-two states with a lower dependency rate nationwide.)


In 2012, not every state was exit-polled (including Top 10-populous Texas and Georgia); so, I can't go over them.


United States Popular Vote of 2012: Whites (72): Republican/Mitt Romney 59% = 42.48% | Mitt Romney: 47.16%; Dependency on whites: 90.07%.
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DS0816
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 02:47:52 PM »

Ga, MS, and SC in addition to WVa will vote GOP no matter what.

Georgia is winnable for the Democrats. But, right now they'll have to hit at least 10 percent in the popular-vote margin. And South Carolina is about three points more Republican than the Peach State. Mississippi is attached to Alabama; they've had the vote since 1820 and have voted the same in all except 1840. And I'll go ahead and dismiss West Virginia, for the Democrats, unless they're winning closer to 45 (rather than just 40) states; it's a state in transition (along with Arkansas) and it's not going to carry Democratic if a winning member of that party has only around 30 states in his/her column.
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