Australian Federal Election- July 2, 2016

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Will the Greens basically become the equivalent of the Nationals, but for the left?

[Vega]

Will the Greens basically become the equivalent of the Nationals, but for the left?

I'd say that is pretty unlikely due to Labor's hostility towards them.

[Vega]

I have a feeling the coalition will barely cling

And if this happens, or a Coalition largest party in a hung parliament, I imagine there will be a new election within the year.

[IceAgeComing]

that'd have to be a house only election though, right?

[Vega]

that'd have to be a house only election though, right?

I believe that a portion of the Senate would actually be contested, but obviously not the whole senate as in a double dissolution.

[IceAgeComing]

My understanding of the obtuseness of Australian election law is that they'd have to go on for at least 18 months to allow them to have the normal house + half senate election; any less than that and they couldn't call an early half-senate election

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Yes! Chaser is back, love those guys

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TNMT39Ux4XE

[Knives]

Yes! Chaser is back, love those guys

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TNMT39Ux4XE

My favourite part is that Tanya still has the rat.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Yes! Chaser is back, love those guys

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TNMT39Ux4XE

My favourite part is that Tanya still has the rat.

Her children named it Harry

[Knives]

Yes! Chaser is back, love those guys

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TNMT39Ux4XE

My favourite part is that Tanya still has the rat.

Her children named it Harry

Excellent name imo

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Pretty terrible interview on ABC Radio National from Adam Bandt condemning Labor for getting a deal with the Libs that they were trying to get. This puts a pretty significant dent in the Green's aspirations for anything beyond retaining Melbourne.

[Knives]

What has happened in the US makes me so happy to be in Australia, thank God both our major parties are committed to gun control.

[Knives]

Bill was so good on Q&A tonight.

[Vosem]

Pretty terrible interview on ABC Radio National from Adam Bandt condemning Labor for getting a deal with the Libs that they were trying to get. This puts a pretty significant dent in the Green's aspirations for anything beyond retaining Melbourne.

Terrible as in Bandt embarrassed himself, or terrible as in accusatory?

[Ebowed]

Bill was so good on Q&A tonight.

Shorten was fantastic.  Even when he gave answers that I thought a bit weak, he presented himself well, sounded straightforward and decisive.

I'm very pleased that he will support negotiating a treaty with aboriginal nations and the presence of journalists at refugee detention centres.

It's no wonder that Turnbull wouldn't appear with Shorten on Q&A.  His floundering would have contrasted against Shorten in the worst possible way!

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Pretty terrible interview on ABC Radio National from Adam Bandt condemning Labor for getting a deal with the Libs that they were trying to get. This puts a pretty significant dent in the Green's aspirations for anything beyond retaining Melbourne.

Terrible as in Bandt embarrassed himself, or terrible as in accusatory?

The former.

Shorten was fantastic on Q&A and dealt with Jones continual interruptions pretty well.

[BaconBacon96]

This would be the second time in a week Turnbull has avoided an appearance alongside Shorten...

[Knives]

Apparently the Liberals are out spending Labor 5 to 1.

[MaxQue]

Apparently the Liberals are out spending Labor 5 to 1.

Not surprising, that's the payment of big companies and wealthy people for the tax cuts.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Apparently the Liberals are out spending Labor 5 to 1.

Not surprising, that's the payment of big companies and wealthy people for the tax cuts.

Not surprising - at my last party meeting, we were sitting there agog at the amount of money the Libs have been throwing to protect Zed.

There was also that weird situation where the Libs paid twice as much for showing just as many ads as Labor had. It's funny, I mean, I think it has more to do with the Libs dumping their ads into prime time, where its more expensive, but still, oddly appropriate

[Vega]

Given how well Shorten is running his campaign, and how dismally, or perhaps "typical" Turnbull has been running his, I'm surprised they're still pretty much tied. There hasn't been an awful lot of movement since the beginning of the campaign.

[Ebowed]

Given how well Shorten is running his campaign, and how dismally, or perhaps "typical" Turnbull has been running his, I'm surprised they're still pretty much tied. There hasn't been an awful lot of movement since the beginning of the campaign.

No, if anything, I'm beginning to come to terms with the sinking feeling that the government holds on, although the Senate will likely not be as good for them.  Doesn't bode well for the prospects of that ABCC Turnbull is always blathering on about!

There's no doubt- the more we see of Turnbull, the less we like, and the more we see of Shorten, the more we like.  That's why the election is being held as early as it possibly could have been.  It looks like there is just enough of that incoherent "muh Labor big spending" sentiment to keep the deficit-happy Liberals in power.

[Ebowed]

Are you guys paying attention to the youth unemployment figures?

Or, even more strikingly, the underemployment figures?

The idea that the Coalition are the "better economic managers" needs to die a quick, well deserved death.  I mean, for god's sake, Turnbull drones on and on about the transitioning economy and yet he doesn't even have a vision for what the economy will look like outside of the prospect of it being easier to be an enormous corporation.  It really insults our intelligence, to try to foist the discredited trickle down economics on us, and yet, it looks like people are stupid enough to buy it.  Wow.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Are you guys paying attention to the youth unemployment figures?

Or, even more strikingly, the underemployment figures?

The idea that the Coalition are the "better economic managers" needs to die a quick, well deserved death.  I mean, for god's sake, Turnbull drones on and on about the transitioning economy and yet he doesn't even have a vision for what the economy will look like outside of the prospect of it being easier to be an enormous corporation.  It really insults our intelligence, to try to foist the discredited trickle down economics on us, and yet, it looks like people are stupid enough to buy it.  Wow.

It's very peculiar that, no matter what parties of left do, they will never be seen as "better economic managers". Gordon Brown and Kevin Rudd were excellent "economic managers" and, yet, both Labor in Australia and Labour in the UK have been damaged by the impression that they are bodies filled with profligate wastrels and moronic nincompoops. There's obvious reasons for this phenomenon: the financial press/media isn't composed of economists but, rather, is composed of "business commentators" who have taken, at the most, two macroeconomics courses and who have obvious interests in bashing the left. This, at least, is my view.

I'm very sleep right now so this isn't one of my better posts but I, too, have been confused by the inability of both parties to control the narrative, especially considering the fact that their opponents have forwarded policies that have been unmitigated economic disasters. In the US, I can understand why the average voter has a modicum of faith in Republican talking points on the economy: it's been years since they've had total control over the federal government so they don't have a clear record of failure and can be seen as some sort of an alternative. Meanwhile, in the UK, the Tories are clearly responsible for a double-dip recession! Abbott forwarded austerity measures for no apparent reason!

[Vega]

Are you guys paying attention to the youth unemployment figures?

Or, even more strikingly, the underemployment figures?

The idea that the Coalition are the "better economic managers" needs to die a quick, well deserved death.  I mean, for god's sake, Turnbull drones on and on about the transitioning economy and yet he doesn't even have a vision for what the economy will look like outside of the prospect of it being easier to be an enormous corporation.  It really insults our intelligence, to try to foist the discredited trickle down economics on us, and yet, it looks like people are stupid enough to buy it.  Wow.

Conservative parties in western democracies always have a way of convincing people, unfoundedly, that they are the best stewards of the economy. Facts be damned.