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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2015, 05:20:53 pm »

Absolutely garbage poll.
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2015, 05:23:31 pm »

As much as I would love to believe these polls, it seems a little far out that the numbers would change so quickly when Hillary has been leading in all other polls.  No matter though, polls this far out, especially before the primaries have even started, are useless.
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2015, 06:02:57 pm »


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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2015, 06:31:47 pm »

Quinnipiac has been known to produce some very weird results that don't line up with what other pollsters say. If you seriously believe that Clinton will get under 40% in any of this states, you aren't being realistic.

Uh, who claimed that?

Uh, if you believe these polls without question, you would have to believe that Clinton would get under 40% in a couple of these states.


Each of these polls has double-digit undecideds. Unless they all vote GOP or all vote for a 3rd candidate, its pretty obvious one can believe this poll and not believe that Hillary will be under 40% in these States.

Yeah this. I don't know if DrScholl is deliberately trying to sound stupid.
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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2015, 06:32:54 pm »

Wait a moment, how and when did this happen? PPP showed Hillary with really good numbers in Virginia.

They are good.... Compared to her numbers in Colorado and Iowa.  It would certainly be bad if the Democratic nominee had net favorables below -20 in multiple Obama states.
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« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2015, 06:39:15 pm »

Quinnipiac has been known to produce some very weird results that don't line up with what other pollsters say. If you seriously believe that Clinton will get under 40% in any of this states, you aren't being realistic.

For example -- it has had Clinton losing Pennsylvania but winning Florida in the same week.
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« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2015, 06:48:07 pm »

"Quinnijunk" -KCDem

LOL @ them projecting Colorado having a Republican leaning party ID electorate in a Presidential year. What a joke.

Also LOL @ Republicans jumping all over this poll when it's clearly an outlier.
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« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2015, 06:52:20 pm »

The 2014 electorates in Colorado and Iowa voted for near-fascists for the Senate, so the same sort of electorate practically ensures that just about any Republican will be able to win on  promises low wages, monopolistic prices, a ravaged environment, and wars for profit.
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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2015, 06:58:52 pm »
« Edited: July 22, 2015, 07:00:48 pm by OC »

Yeah, until Suffolk Polls CO, QU had a GOP bias in Iowa and CO in 2014.  Bennet will get the highest vote out of all the competetive senate races. Dems wont concede CO.

This is the same pollster showing Sestak dead in water and Strickland running away with Senate race.
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« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2015, 08:13:42 pm »


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-22/the-polling-paradox-how-to-read-the-numbers

I love this takedown from Bloomberg. Basically, the national polls and the swing states are in sync. Hillary can't be comfortably ahead nationally, and in trouble in swing states. It also knocks Quinnipiac for pegging the 2016 electorate more like 2014 than 2012.
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« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2015, 08:16:25 pm »

This race will wind up being like 1976, 2000 and 2004
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« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2015, 08:25:10 pm »

Quinnipiac has been known to produce some very weird results that don't line up with what other pollsters say. If you seriously believe that Clinton will get under 40% in any of this states, you aren't being realistic.

Uh, who claimed that?

Uh, if you believe these polls without question, you would have to believe that Clinton would get under 40% in a couple of these states.


Each of these polls has double-digit undecideds. Unless they all vote GOP or all vote for a 3rd candidate, its pretty obvious one can believe this poll and not believe that Hillary will be under 40% in these States.

Yeah this. I don't know if DrScholl is deliberately trying to sound stupid.

I'm far from stupid. Even your boy Sean Trende is calling this polling out. It's hard to believe Clinton would be under 40% even in polling this early and considering that the party ID numbers are off, this polling is not very good.
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« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2015, 09:21:50 pm »

So much for Virginia trending Democratic. Tongue

Anyways, I'm surprised that we were right about Colorado and Iowa.
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« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2015, 09:30:40 pm »

QU hasnt polled Senate race yet in CO, since Coffman dropped out. It will be hard to believe Bennet will be a heavy favorite and CO would be sunk for Hilary.

Va is a swing state, and all the polls show it is a GOP pickup for gov in 2017
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« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2015, 09:43:46 pm »

QU hasnt polled Senate race yet in CO, since Coffman dropped out. It will be hard to believe Bennet will be a heavy favorite and CO would be sunk for Hilary.

Va is a swing state, and all the polls show it is a GOP pickup for gov in 2017

No one is saying Bennet is a heavy favorite. Lean D typically means "slight favorite".
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« Reply #65 on: July 23, 2015, 12:47:40 pm »

Did anyone else notice the fact that Jim Gilmore is unknown to more than 60% of VA voters ?

LOLz.

And even in his home state he's not popular either, having a 16-20 favorable rating.

In CO and IA, more than 90% of voters have never heard of Gilmore.
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« Reply #66 on: July 23, 2015, 01:11:30 pm »


The national aggregate is Hillary 4-10 lead. For these numbers to be right, we'd have to assume she's up 10 in Florida and pushing 60% in Pennyslvania for it to add up.
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« Reply #67 on: July 23, 2015, 03:13:12 pm »

Game over. Hope Hillary won't wind up on the street.
If by street, you mean Wall Street then there's a chance.
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« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2015, 06:42:21 pm »

The only poll that Dems are happy about is Va, despite it being in dixie, Dems can count on Fairfax, like a DC suburb to pull through.
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« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2015, 07:23:44 pm »

The only poll that Dems are happy about is Va, despite it being in dixie, Dems can count on Fairfax, like a DC suburb to pull through.

Well, sure, if the Democrats start to struggle in VA, the election will essentially be over. So far, Clinton is ahead in Virginia by 3-5 points (Obama 2012 numbers).
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« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2015, 04:27:12 am »

I for one am not going to call this poll garbage just because it seems unrealistic. Even if these numbers are off, we've seen one consistent trend: Hillary Clinton's numbers are getting worse and worse as we get closer to the process.
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« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2015, 06:57:36 am »

E-mails under investigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/24/us/politics/criminal-inquiry-is-sought-in-hillary-clinton-email-account.html

 If the investigation turns up wrongdoing, then Democratic support will go elsewhere. We might then see Hillary Clinton become irrelevant (the Left ditches troubled pols quickly) as someone else (Bernie Sanders?) becomes the focus of political support.
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« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2015, 09:06:58 am »

So much for Virginia trending Democratic. Tongue

Anyways, I'm surprised that we were right about Colorado and Iowa.

You're not, though. This is a single poll that contradicts logic in just about every way.
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« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2015, 01:03:20 pm »

It is going to be so wonderful to see Hillary lose the Presidency to a one-term minority Senator who trounces her on charisma - for the second time.
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« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2015, 05:32:29 pm »

It is going to be so wonderful to see Hillary lose the Presidency to a one-term minority Senator who trounces her on charisma - for the second time.

Marco Rubio has about as much charisma as a stick of celery.
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