If Obama was the president in the 90s

[OSR stands with Israel]

Lets say Obama got elected to the the Senate in 1986 and got elected to the white house in 1992 how would he react to the 1994 election differently.  My guess is he decides not to to compromise with Gingrich and Co on the deficit and welfare reform and many other things and probably would get the blame for the Gov shutdown unlike Clinton who was able to defect the blame on to Newt(None were to blame really) . I mean if he cant handle Boehner and a divided GOP he wont be able to Newt and a unified GOP and he would lose in 1996 handily. On the other hand Bill Clinton  would easily handle today GOP and they would probably still be in the minority in both the house and senete


UPDATE:Lets say Obama was the same age in 92 as he was in 08 and it was possible for a black man to be elected at the time

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He would be ineligible to be President at the age of 31, and likewise would be too young to be elected Senator in 1986. Unless some sort of Dougie Howser POTUS amendment is passed.

[PJ]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

[PJ]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

Eh, there was at least a chance by that point. Depends on who it was.

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What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

Eh, there was at least a chance by that point. Depends on who it was.

Kind of amazing that it took almost 30 years after Loving v. Virginia for opinion to get to where gay marriage is today. SCOTUS was a little slow on gay marriage.

[RR1997]

Ineligible due to age reasons.

[Türkisblau]

what if raygun elected in 1952 does he war with othre c**ntries?

[PJ]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

Eh, there was at least a chance by that point. Depends on who it was.

As long as said candidate has 48 percent, it's all good. Also, there was a cadre of people that didn't support "intermarriage" but were black. At least 2 percent of total population.

With the amount of vile racism towards Obama coming from some far-righties now, he'd certainly face a lot more thinly veiled racist opposition in 1992. The fact that interracial marriage is even controversial among voters in 1992 means that racist sentiment would run high. Interracial marriage is the sort of issue that people are more willing to say they're fine with than actually vote for (racial tension is the very origin of the Bradley effect, after all).

[The Mikado]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

A potential Colin Powell challenge to Bill Clinton was treated VERY seriously in 1996. (Powell decided not to run, of course)

[Sumner 1868]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

A potential Colin Powell challenge to Bill Clinton was treated VERY seriously in 1996. (Powell decided not to run, of course)

Interestingly, Powell's support was based almost solely on the fact that he was black.

Anyway, looking at Gallup polls, a majority of the public has claimed they would vote for a black president since 1959. The question wasn't tested in the early 1990s, but in 1997 93 percent said they would, where it has largely stagnated since.

[dudeabides]

He'd still be lawless, incompetent, and a liar no matter the time.

[Thunderbird is the word]

What Crabcake said, and even if he met the age requirements, a black man would not have been elected president in 1992.

A potential Colin Powell challenge to Bill Clinton was treated VERY seriously in 1996. (Powell decided not to run, of course)

Interestingly, Powell's support was based almost solely on the fact that he was black.

Anyway, looking at Gallup polls, a majority of the public has claimed they would vote for a black president since 1959. The question wasn't tested in the early 1990s, but in 1997 93 percent said they would, where it has largely stagnated since.

Of course that doesn't automatically translate into actual concrete support. Maybe beginning in 1959 with civil rights and school desegregation becoming national issues it was the tipping point at which most decent Americans would no longer openly admit they're racism.

[CapoteMonster]

Even if he had been eligible Obama would've been screwed in 1996 since the electorate was over 80% white. Barack would've pissed off a lot of people by vetoing a lot of domestic bills that were passed. Even assuming Obama sign's welfare reform the electoral college and fear of 90's Americans would've been massively set against him. The tech boom would also have been hurt by less wage increases and a skeptical stock market with uncertainty in congress. In this scenario, I imagine the map would look something like this.

Dole/Wilson 51%

Obama/Clinton 42%

Perot and other third parties would get the remaining 7%.

[Mister Mets]

I'll ignore the 1986-1994 administration and the questions about age. Let's assume someone like Obama (similar background/ experience) is elected President in 1992.

I think the Republican wave in 1994 would be bigger, and he'd lose in 1996.

The country wasn't ready for a President that liberal at that time (The Great Recession helped make voters more concerned about economic security) and it was also whiter.

[Medal506]

Even if he had been eligible Obama would've been screwed in 1996 since the electorate was over 80% white. Barack would've pissed off a lot of people by vetoing a lot of domestic bills that were passed. Even assuming Obama sign's welfare reform the electoral college and fear of 90's Americans would've been massively set against him. The tech boom would also have been hurt by less wage increases and a skeptical stock market with uncertainty in congress. In this scenario, I imagine the map would look something like this.

Dole/Wilson 51%

Obama/Clinton 42%

Perot and other third parties would get the remaining 7%.

White people still make up over 70 percent of the electorate today and Obama was elected twice.

[SWE]

Even if he had been eligible Obama would've been screwed in 1996 since the electorate was over 80% white. Barack would've pissed off a lot of people by vetoing a lot of domestic bills that were passed. Even assuming Obama sign's welfare reform the electoral college and fear of 90's Americans would've been massively set against him. The tech boom would also have been hurt by less wage increases and a skeptical stock market with uncertainty in congress. In this scenario, I imagine the map would look something like this.

Dole/Wilson 51%

Obama/Clinton 42%

Perot and other third parties would get the remaining 7%.

White people still make up over 70 percent of the electorate today and Obama was elected twice.

The difference between 70% and 80% is pretty big

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

what kind of Republican would have lost to a non-incumbent Obama in 1996? Assuming you have Bush be reelected in 92.

[Kingpoleon]

what kind of Republican would have lost to a non-incumbent Obama in 1996? Assuming you have Bush be reelected in 92.

I imagine the POD here is that Obama runs for a Chicago citywide office or State Senate in the early 1980s, and then runs for Governor in 1986. He wins re-election in 1990 and runs for President in 1992.