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« Reply #1300 on: February 07, 2008, 06:50:39 pm »


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« Reply #1301 on: February 07, 2008, 10:42:31 pm »


That one just confuses me. I can't imagine any political map that would place Kentucky with NY.
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« Reply #1302 on: February 07, 2008, 11:00:02 pm »

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« Reply #1303 on: February 07, 2008, 11:59:54 pm »
« Edited: February 08, 2008, 12:04:42 am by Verily »


Europe some time between 1856 (end of the Crimean War) and 1859 (beginning of Italian unification).
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« Reply #1304 on: February 08, 2008, 02:44:04 am »


That one just confuses me. I can't imagine any political map that would place Kentucky with NY.

There were these elections that happened in 1992 and 1996, perhaps you've heard of them, they were called the American presidential elections.
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« Reply #1305 on: February 08, 2008, 10:09:07 am »


That one just confuses me. I can't imagine any political map that would place Kentucky with NY.

There were these elections that happened in 1992 and 1996, perhaps you've heard of them, they were called the American presidential elections.

Yes, but what about Texas with NY?
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« Reply #1306 on: February 08, 2008, 07:17:34 pm »


But the shaded countries in particular...
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Kaine for Senate '18
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« Reply #1307 on: February 12, 2008, 03:04:03 pm »


Hint: it has to do with the Senate
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« Reply #1308 on: February 12, 2008, 05:23:36 pm »


Is it seats which will go to the Dem/GOP and how strongly they will?
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« Reply #1309 on: February 12, 2008, 05:26:17 pm »


No, it has to do with current Senators.
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« Reply #1310 on: February 16, 2008, 11:22:38 pm »


Another hint: It involves Committees.
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« Reply #1311 on: February 20, 2008, 05:43:21 pm »


I'm going to reveal what it is tomorrow, so anyone who has a guess has about 15 hours to do so.
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« Reply #1312 on: February 21, 2008, 05:13:52 pm »

I think I've got it:

Dark red: Both Democratic senators serve as chairs of Senate committees.
Pale red: One Democratic senator serves as a committee chair.
Dark blue: Both Republican senators serve as ranking members of committees.
Pale blue: One Republican senator serves as a committee ranking member.
Green: The Democratic and Republican senators both serve as a committee chair and as a ranking member, respectively.
Gray: Neither senator serves as either a chair or as a ranking member.
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« Reply #1313 on: February 21, 2008, 07:59:57 pm »

I think I've got it:

Dark red: Both Democratic senators serve as chairs of Senate committees.
Pale red: One Democratic senator serves as a committee chair.
Dark blue: Both Republican senators serve as ranking members of committees.
Pale blue: One Republican senator serves as a committee ranking member.
Green: The Democratic and Republican senators both serve as a committee chair and as a ranking member, respectively.
Gray: Neither senator serves as either a chair or as a ranking member.

Very good, I was just about to reveal it.
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« Reply #1314 on: February 21, 2008, 09:44:10 pm »



Roughly what the map would look like from 2004, if all states used the Maine/Nebraska method of apportioning ECVs. The very dark blue through the small seats is obviously overstated as they only have the one Congressional District, and therefore would remain "Winner-takes-all." Michigan and Pennsylvania would flip and Minnesota would be 50-50.

That's based on me looking up how Bush and Kerry went by Congressional District online - so if there are any mistakes, they're entirely mine.
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« Reply #1315 on: February 22, 2008, 01:16:22 am »



Huckabee (Ind) runs in the GE against McCain and Obama.
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« Reply #1316 on: February 22, 2008, 10:45:05 am »

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« Reply #1317 on: February 25, 2008, 07:24:23 am »


ind vs. libertarian registration on the atlas, with the pale yellow meaning no registrations at all?
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« Reply #1318 on: February 25, 2008, 06:48:15 pm »


ind vs. libertarian registration on the atlas, with the pale yellow meaning no registrations at all?

Nope, the colors are non-political.
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« Reply #1319 on: February 25, 2008, 09:10:17 pm »
« Edited: February 25, 2008, 09:19:38 pm by Smid »


Where States derive the majority of their income, with the yellow states deriving a greater proportion of their state income than the average for the nation from Primary Industries - Mining, Lumber, Agriculture.

I don't think I explained it well... if the Primary Industries contributed to 25% of US GDP, the states in yellow had State GDPs in which Primary Industries were >25% and green states had primary industries worth <25% of State GDP. (Note, I haven't actually researched those figures, I'm just using them by way of example).

So fisheries in Maine, farming throughout the west, forestry in Oregan, oil in Texas and AK, mining in WV.

The darker the green, the less state income is derived from primary industries, and the darker the yellow, the more state income is?

That said, agriculture is pretty big in California and Penn, so perhaps I'm mistaken...
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« Reply #1320 on: February 26, 2008, 06:36:32 pm »

I'm afraid you are mistaken.  Excellent try though.  Smiley

The real answer is not quite as complex.  Think about population.
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« Reply #1321 on: February 26, 2008, 06:56:34 pm »

Didn't think it would be right, but thought I'd give it a shot anyway.

I'd considered population growth, but I think some of the border states are growing fastest - but in your map California and Arizona are opposite, so I'm guessing that's not it. I guess it's possible that it's population growth based on citizens or something like that.

I also looked for some figures based on median age and breakdown of population by age bracket, in case it was states where the median age was above/below the US median, but I couldn't find where those figures were expressed as a single table and didn't want to go through a multitude of tables looking it up state by state. I guess it could also be states with a greater or lower proportion of seniors compared to the average number of seniors (although I suspect Florida and DC wouldn't be similar in that instance). For that matter, it could also be the reverse - proportion of children under the age of 15, or even the proportion of population within the working age (so excluding children and seniors) but again, I'd have suspected a difference between Florida and DC.

I also considered that perhaps it was ethnicity as a proportion of population - but there shouldn't be much difference between Louisiana and Mississippi, so I ruled that one out.

Anything there heading down the right track or am I way off base?
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« Reply #1322 on: February 26, 2008, 07:44:24 pm »

Wow, you're really giving it some thought!  Smiley

You're right to look at a particular average, in terms of determining the difference between green and yellow.  But it's really a lot more simple than you think.
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« Reply #1323 on: February 26, 2008, 08:09:55 pm »

As we all know, because of the breakup of CDs between states, some states end up being over-represented in Congress because their population of the state is less than the average CD and some are under-represented.

I thought it might have been states over/under-represented in Congress based on population, but the figures I found of state population vs number of CDs in the state suggest that it's not that...

...still thinking...
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« Reply #1324 on: February 26, 2008, 09:08:45 pm »

Alright - I'm almost certain I've got it... I put together a spreadsheet of population according to July 2007 and land area of each state and then worked out the population density of each state. I then compared the population density of each state to the average and except in the case of Texas (?) this map seems to show states with over/under the average population density with yellow states having a population density of less than 31.66 people per square kilometre (82 per square mile) and green states having a population density of more than 31.66 people per square kilometre (82 per square mile).

Texas is the only glitch for me - 32.6 people per square kilometre and 84 people per square mile.
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