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« Reply #3700 on: June 30, 2013, 12:34:31 PM »

Now I'm curious. Anyone who can come up with an idea/combination of tickets here? Tongue



In the end, the Republican ticket wins 292-246.
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« Reply #3701 on: June 30, 2013, 12:45:47 PM »
« Edited: June 30, 2013, 12:48:18 PM by eric82oslo »

What about this one? Tongue

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« Reply #3702 on: June 30, 2013, 01:00:17 PM »

Any way such a map would be possible?



It gives us a 390-184 Democratic win, further underscoring what little importance the deep south plays these days...
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« Reply #3703 on: June 30, 2013, 01:20:22 PM »

Now, if every voter had voted according to their race, meaning every non-Hispanic white would have voted Republican and every non-white would vote Democratic, we would have ended up with this map in 2010:



The Republican candidate would win 437-101.

Notice how the states become lighter blue or turn to red the more south you move, almost without exceptions. (New York, New Jersey, D.C. and Illinois being the major exceptions.)
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« Reply #3704 on: July 01, 2013, 07:58:38 AM »

Clinton/Schweitzer: 285 (50.2%)
Rubio/Kasich: 253 (48.6%)
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« Reply #3705 on: July 01, 2013, 10:21:28 AM »


Republican 529 (76.3%)
Democrat 3 (12.1%)
Libertarian 3 (7.5%)
Green 3 (3.2%)
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« Reply #3706 on: July 03, 2013, 07:20:39 AM »

Ayotte/Martinez: 282 (50.7%)
Schweitzer/O'Malley: 256 (48.1%)
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« Reply #3707 on: July 03, 2013, 10:52:59 AM »



2012 if all national demographics vote opposite of what they normally did. For example, whites vote 60-40 Democrat, instead of 60-40 Republican, while blacks vote 95-5 Republican, instead of 95-5 Democrat.

This map is a 316-222 win for Republicans.
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« Reply #3708 on: July 03, 2013, 11:50:08 AM »
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2012 if all national demographics vote opposite of what they normally did. For example, whites vote 60-40 Democrat, instead of 60-40 Republican, while blacks vote 95-5 Republican, instead of 95-5 Democrat.

This map is a 316-222 win for Republicans.

Goes to show that the future does not lie in the white vote. Even if Obama had won the white vote with 40% more than he actually did in 2012 (+20% instead of -20%), he would still have lost in a landslide if he lost the minority votes as badly as he won those instead. Should be some pretty good news for Democrats looking ahead. Smiley
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« Reply #3709 on: July 03, 2013, 06:13:19 PM »
« Edited: July 05, 2013, 08:34:11 PM by Assistant to the Regional Manager Cathcon »

1872
After four years of reform, the nation proudly backed President Abraham Lincoln and his Whig party for re-election against the perceived radicalism of the Liberal party candidate. The new party, first elected in 1868, was riding high.

President Abraham Lincoln (Whig-Illinois)/Vice President Andrew Johnson (Whig-Tennessee) 325 electoral votes, 59% of the popular vote
Former Secretary of State Frederick Douglass (Liberal-New York)/Senator Henry Wilson (Liberal-Massachusetts) 35 electoral votes, 39% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote

1876
Despite a strong eight years of Whig leadership, the nation snapped back in a close election to its Liberal leanings--ingrained after twenty years of electoral success from 1848 to 1864--and elected Samuel J. Tilden, the reforming Governor of New York.

Governor Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal-New York)/Governor Rutherford B. Hayes (Liberal-Ohio) 188 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote
Governor John F. Hartranft (Whig-Pennsylvania)/Congressman James B. Weaver (Whig-Iowa) 181 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote

1880
While Tilden would be treated by history as one of the greatest reformers of the civil service system, modern politics would not be so compromising. With Senator James G. Blaine acting as the defender of machine interests in the legislature and using his clout as a former Speaker of the House, Tilden's own party was in an uproar. Passing on re-election, Tilden's reign was over. Instead, Blaine was able to take the Liberal nomination. As if machine politics weren't prominent enough at the convention, the nomination of Mayor Chester Alan Arthur of New York for Vice President sealed the deal. Meanwhile, the Whigs had gladly taken upon themselves the call to reform as they'd done with their champion Lincoln--rumored to be near death despite his attendance at the convention. The nomination of James A. Garfield from the swing state of Ohio--a supporter of Tilden's reforms--was a step towards electability. The nomination of former Governor John Quincy Adams II for Vice President helped the Whigs greatly in the North-East and New England. Hailing from Massachusetts, Adams had left the party of his birth in the late 1860's, angry with the Radical Liberals for reconstruction politics. While still a supporter of several Liberal policies, Adams was one of the few Whigs to gain high office in Massachusetts because of this, and with the theme of reform strong at the convention, the Whigs were open to it.

James A. Garfield (Whig-Ohio)/John Quincy Adams, II (Whig-Massachusetts) 229 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote
Senator James G. Blaine (Liberal-Maine)/Mayor Chester Alan Arthur (Liberal-New York) 48% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 3% of the popular vote

1884
The last four years had been hard for the Whig party. The assassination of President Garfield at the hands of Tammany Hall--so it was rumored--had only increased the anti-machine fervor of the nation, and President Adams was happy to oblige. However, in economic and tariff policies, he was heavily opposed to the Whig establishment, favoring a more liberal and laissez-faire approach. He found himself siding with the party of his birth and family far more often than the one he'd been elected on. Getting third at the convention to James B. Weaver and William Mahone, Adams might as well have directly endorsed the Liberal ticket. With his party begging him to return, Samuel J. Tilden finally gave in and allowed himself to be renominated by the Liberals. For Vice President, Thomas F. Bayard of Delaware was chosen. In the campaign between the "Bourbon" Tilden and the populist Weaver, with the nation experiencing economic calm despite political conflict, the more Adams-esque Tilden/Bayard swept to victory. However, it would not be the last the nation saw of James B. Weaver.

Former President Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal-New York)/Senator Thomas F. Bayard (Liberal-Delaware) 267 electoral votes, 52% of the popular vote
Congressman James B. Weaver (Whig-Iowa)/Former Senator James L. Alcorn (Whig-Mississippi) 134 electoral votes, 48% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 4% of the popular vote

1888
Like Garfield, Tilden would find his presidency ending sooner than expected. With declining health, he would die in 1886. Nevertheless, the economy remained strong and greased the wheels for Bayard's re-election against the inoffensive candidate William Mahone, a member of the more "Lincolnian" wing of the party who had triumphed over the populist faction only to go down to defeat.

President Thomas F. Bayard (Liberal-Delaware)/Governor S. Grover Cleveland (Liberal-New York) 275 electoral votes, 55% of the popular vote
Senator William Mahone (Whig-Virginia)/Senator William Warner (Whig-Missouri) 126 electoral votes, 43% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #3710 on: July 04, 2013, 03:11:22 PM »



President Ronald Reagan of California and Vice President George Bush of Texas (Republican): 44.2% (138)
Walter Mondale of Minnesota and Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas (Democratic): 49.3%(400)
John Anderson of Illinois and Pat Lucey of Wisconsin (Independent): 6.5% (0)
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« Reply #3711 on: July 04, 2013, 03:33:24 PM »



Governor Anne Richards from Texas/Senator Al Gore from Tennesee
President George HW Bush from Texas/Vice President Dan Quayle from Indiana
Poor George.. unfortunately that silver foot in his mouth proved to be fatal for him even in his home state of Texas
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« Reply #3712 on: July 05, 2013, 08:01:25 AM »

2016 election

Jeb Bush/Nikki Haley:  273

Jo Biden/Elizabeth Warren: 265

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« Reply #3713 on: July 05, 2013, 08:53:44 AM »

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Joe Manchin (D-WV) / Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 274 (49.4%)
Chris Christie (R-NJ) / Marco Rubio (R-FL) 264 (49.7%)
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« Reply #3714 on: July 05, 2013, 11:46:21 AM »
« Edited: July 05, 2013, 01:02:23 PM by NHI »

Reagan/Bush: 535 (59.5%)
Mondale/Ferraro: 3 (39.7%)

Bush/Dole: 354 (52.1%)
Clinton/Dukakis: 184 (46.5%)

Bush/Dole: 271 (48.5%)
Tsongas/Brown: 267 (48.4%)
Other: 3.1%

Brown/Chiles: 343 (50.7%)
Dole/Kemp: 204 (47.9%)

Brown/Clinton: 417 (53.9%)
Quyale/Forbes: 121 (45.0%)

Clinton/Kerry: 497 (50.1%)
Huckabee/Santorum: 22 (19.7%)
Smith/Paul: 17 (28.9%)

Clinton/Kerry: 300 (50.8%)
Romney/Brownback: 238 (47.6%)

Thune/Bush: 296 (50.9%)
Kerry/Klobuchar: 242 (48.0%)
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« Reply #3715 on: July 06, 2013, 10:22:40 AM »

Gov. Chris Christie/Gov. Susana Martinez: 319 (51.4%)
Gov. Andrew Cuomo/Sen. Mark Warner: 219 (47.2%)

Sen. Allison Lundgren Grimes/Gov. Martin O'Malley: 271 (49.1%)
Pres. Chris Christie/Vice Pres. Susana Martinez: 267 (49.3%)
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« Reply #3716 on: July 06, 2013, 10:36:08 AM »
« Edited: July 07, 2013, 05:56:24 PM by Assistant to the Regional Manager Cathcon »

1892
Thanks to the oratory of Weaver surrogate James B. Weaver, the populist faction took back control of the party in time to see the tail end of the Bayard prosperity. Meanwhile, the Liberals nominated the moderate John Sherman for President. Sherman, a bi-metallist who hailed from Ohio, had won over the pro-gold Northeastern faction of the party represented by Vice President Cleveland. With Weaver representing the populists in the Whigs, the traditional "Lincoln" Whigs in the Upper South and Appalachia turned towards Sherman who was much closer to their ideology and interests than the Western agrarians. Nevertheless, thanks to a narrow win in Illinois thanks to vote-splitting, Weaver won one of the closest elections in American history.

Senator James B. Weaver (Whig-Iowa)/Senator James Kyle (Whig-South Dakota) 224 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote
Secretary of State John Sherman (Liberal-Ohio)/Governor David B. Hill (Liberal-New York) 220 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote

1896
With Weaver having failed to deliver his agenda thanks to the very partisan Liberal congress and general fear even among Lincoln Whigs of what a radical like Weaver would do to the American economy, the incumbent President was unpopular. Nevertheless, with moderate delegates abandoning the convention in favor of their own "National Whig" convention, Weaver was renominated. Meanwhile, the Liberals opted against nominating Sherman surrogate William McKinley, another Ohio moderate, in favor of Thomas Brackett Reed. While Reed in other circumstances might have been unelectable, with the National Whigs splitting the Whig vote in key states, Reed rode to victory.

Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Thomas Brackett Reed (Liberal-Maine)/Governor Horace Boies (Liberal-Iowa) 245 electoral votes, 46% of the popular vote
President James B. Weaver (Whig-Iowa)/Governor Thomas Watson (Whig-Georgia) 143 electoral votes, 44% of the popular vote
Former Attorney General Robert Todd Lincoln (National Whig-Illinois)/Former Governor William E. Cameron (National Whig-Virginia) 59 electoral votes, 9% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 1% of the popular vote

1900
While as of 1898, President Reed looked safe for re-election given foreign policy triumph in the Spanish-American War, things changed quickly. The Panic of 1899, a prolonged result of the administration's sloppy re-institution of the gold standard, doomed the future of the Reed administration. Even the nomination of popular Navy Secretary Theodore Roosevelt--hero of the aforementioned war--for Vice President didn't help the Liberal ticket.

Senator Thomas Watson (Whig-Georgia)/Senator William Jennings Bryan (Whig-Nebraska) 395 electoral votes, 56% of the popular vote
President Thomas Brackett Reed (Liberal-Maine)/Secretary of the Navy Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-South Dakota) 52 electoral votes, 42% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote

1904
The assassination of President Watson resulted in the ascendancy of William Jennings Bryan to the presidency. Bryan, using his powerful oratory and national sympathy, was able to pass a broad swathe of the Whig agenda. Nevertheless, that wouldn't improve the economy. Instead, the "decapitation" of the nation's industrial base in favor of a "Jeffersonian" vision for America's agriculture destroyed hope for recovery. However, with the nomination of Alton Brooks Parker of New York over Governor Theodore Roosevelt of South Dakota, the Liberals doomed themselves with an unenthusiastic and perceivedly elitist campaign.

President William Jennings Bryan (Whig-Nebraska)/Congressman John P. Buchanan (Whig-Kentucky) 254 electoral votes, 50% of the popular vote
Governor Alton Brooks Parker (Liberal-New York)/Charles W. Fairbanks (Liberal-Indiana) 222 electoral votes, 49% of the popular vote

1908
With the Whigs having finally worn out their welcome, the nation was ready to welcome the Liberals back into power. The question was of which it would be. With the party bosses having counted out Theodore Roosevelt again, the New Yorker-turned-cowboy was ready to tear the party in half until his friend, Henry Cabot Lodge was nominated. Securing the Vice Presidential nomination for Roosevelt, the Liberals were finally ready to take back leadership of the country. With Roosevelt on the ticket in a much more Liberal-friendly election, the party go its best results in the West since the 1850's.

Senator Henry Cabot Lodge (Liberal-Massachusetts)/Former Governor Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-South Dakota) 337 electoral votes, 53% of the popular vote
Senator Marion Butler (Whig-North Carolina)/Former Secretary of the Interior William A. Poynter (Whig-Nebraska) 146 electoral votes, 45% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #3717 on: July 06, 2013, 01:08:10 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2013, 07:37:44 AM by Pessimistic Antineutrino »

2012 with roughly a 32% swing towards Gary Johnson, 18% from Obama and 14% from Romney, to create a 33-33-33 popular vote.



Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) 232 electoral votes, 33% of the popular vote
President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) 218 electoral votes, 33% of the popular vote
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Mr. James P. Gray (L-CA) 88 electoral votes, 33% of the popular vote
Others: 0 electoral votes, 1% of the popular vote
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« Reply #3718 on: July 06, 2013, 04:49:26 PM »

House vote on NAFTA by state:
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« Reply #3719 on: July 06, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »

House vote on NDAA authorization:
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« Reply #3720 on: July 06, 2013, 11:40:11 PM »

Any way such a map would be possible?



It gives us a 390-184 Democratic win, further underscoring what little importance the deep south plays these days...

We get it dude.....you dont like the south
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« Reply #3721 on: July 07, 2013, 12:21:32 AM »

TARP:
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« Reply #3722 on: July 07, 2013, 12:47:10 AM »
« Edited: July 11, 2013, 11:47:30 PM by badgate »

2008


Senator Joe Biden / Senator Claire McCaskill - 323, 51%
Senator Arlen Spector / Governor Mitt Romney - 215, 48%

2012


President Joe Biden / Vice President Claire McCaskill - 159, 45%
Governor Chris Christie / Rep. Raul Labrador - 379, 53%

2016


Frmr. Vice President Claire McCaskill / Senator Barack Obama - 335, 50.9%
President Chris Christie / Vice President Raul Labrador - 203, 48.1%

2020


President Claire McCaskill / Vice President Barack Obama - 335, 52.9%
Senator Kelly Ayotte / Senator Marco Rubio - 232, 46.5%
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« Reply #3723 on: July 07, 2013, 08:36:28 AM »

Gov. Chris Christie/Sen. Marco Rubio: 371 (53.4%)
Vice Pres. Joe Biden/Sen. Al Franken: 167 (45.3%)

Pres. Chris Christie/Vice Pres. Marco Rubio: 448 (56.9%)
Gov. Gavin Newsom/Gov. Martin O'Malley: 90 (42.0%)
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« Reply #3724 on: July 07, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »

2008


Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)  504  (62.2%)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)/Mike Gravel (D-AK) 34 (36.9%)
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