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« Reply #3775 on: July 26, 2013, 07:01:41 pm »

Clinton/Hickenlooper: 328 (50.8%)
Ayotte/Thune: 210 (48.1%)
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« Reply #3776 on: July 27, 2013, 08:31:03 am »

2012


Obama/Biden 395EV (53.9%)
Santorum/Haley 143EV (45.0%)
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« Reply #3777 on: July 27, 2013, 01:18:55 pm »

2000

Republican (R-MI)/Candidate (R-?) 294 electoral votes
Democrat (D-MT)/Candidate (D-AL) 244 electoral votes

2004

Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator James Folsom (D-AL) 295 electoral votes
Republican (R-MI)/Present (R-?) 243 electoral votes

2008

Governor Michael Huckabee (R-AR)/Senator Christopher Christie (R-NJ) 354 electoral votes
President Howard Dean (D-VT)/Vice President James Folsom (D-AL) 184 electoral votes

2012

President Michael Huckabee (R-AR)/Vice President Christopher Christie (R-NJ) 366 electoral votes
Former Governor Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)/Senator Mark Dayton (D-MN) 172 electoral votes
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« Reply #3778 on: July 29, 2013, 12:40:30 am »

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« Reply #3779 on: July 29, 2013, 01:08:12 am »


Bachmann/Dalrymple vs. Clinton/Castro? I'm thinking the VP nom might need to be Sebelius to get KS/NE, but this would work too.
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« Reply #3780 on: July 29, 2013, 04:08:29 pm »

1988: Clinton/Bentsen v. Bush/Dole

Gov. Bill Clinton/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen: 377 (53.6%)
Pres. George H.W. Bush/Sen. Bob Dole: 161 (45.2%)

1992: Clinton/Bentsen v. DuPont/Wilson v. Perot/Stockdale

Pres. Bill Clinton/Vice Pres. Lloyd Bentsen: 472 (50.2%)
Gov. Pierre DuPoint/Gov. Peter Wilson: 58 (28.0%)
Ross Perot/Adm. James Stockdale: 8 (20.7%)

1996: Kerrey/Gore v. Powell/McCain

Sen. Bob Kerrey/Sen. Al Gore: 314 (52.0%)
Gen. Colin Powell/Sen. John McCain: 224 (46.7%)

2000: Kerrey/Gore v. Smith/Kasich

Pres. Bob Kerrey/Vice Pres. Gore: 363 (53.1%)
Sen. Bob Smith/Rep. John Kashich: 175 (45.9%)

2004: Gore/Kerry v. McCain/Dole

Vice Pres. Al Gore/Sen. John Kerry: 284 (50.3%)
Sen. John McCain/Sen. Elizabeth Dole: 254 (48.5%)

2008: Snowe/Hunter v. Gore/Kerry

Sen. Olympia Snowe/Gov. Sam Brownback: 349 (54.1%)
Pres. Al Gore/Vice Pres. John Kerry: 189 (44.7%)
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« Reply #3781 on: July 30, 2013, 01:56:12 am »
« Edited: August 05, 2013, 09:46:12 pm by badgate »

2004




Senator John F. Kerry / Governor Bill Richardson 272
President George W. Bush / Vice President Dick Cheney 266



2020



Senator Alison Lundergan Grimes / Senator Joaquín Castro 279
President Scott Walker / Vice President Pat Toomey 233
Frmr. China Ambassador Jon Huntsman, Jr. / Senator Tim Scott 26
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« Reply #3782 on: July 30, 2013, 04:02:18 pm »
« Edited: July 30, 2013, 04:11:00 pm by Pessimistic Antineutrino »

A hypothetical Hoover vs. Smith rematch in 1932, based off of Smith's 1928 percentages and Hoover's 1932 percentages.

For example, Smith won 45% of the vote in Connecticut in 1928 and Hoover won 48% in 1932. Adding the sum of their vote percentages gives Hoover a 51%, so he wins that state. This is how the map turned out:



Governor Al Smith (D-NY) / Senator Joseph T. Robinson (D-AR) 321 electoral votes, 50.7% of the popular vote
President Herbert Hoover (R-CA) / Vice President Charles Curtis (R-KS) 210 electoral votes, 49.3% of the popular vote.

Many states were extremely close, Illinois, Nebraska and Kentucky being decided by a margin of less than one percent.

The results were pretty surprising, I didn't expect Hoover to lose Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Upper Plains while winning West Virginia.

Smith's best state was South Carolina, where he won 93.28% of the vote.
Hoover's best state was Vermont, where he won 63.69% of the vote.

I was surprised the popular vote was as narrow as it was, considering Smith won comfortably in the electoral vote and his massive margins in the South. However, Hoover won a lot of large industrial states by fair margins, like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Many of Smith's larger states were won narrowly, like Illinois and New York.
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« Reply #3783 on: July 30, 2013, 11:28:07 pm »
« Edited: August 01, 2013, 11:03:47 am by SoIA Superique »

1976 Election (I want to do this timeline)

Mo Udall challenged Paul Fannin in 1970 and was elected in a close election. He became know for his support for environmental protection, his liberal records and his protection of native Americans. Udall Beats Carter in Iowa (40% vs 32%) and in New Hampshire with higher margins (47% vs 33%) and leads all the way down to the Democratic Convention.

President Ford fails to win the Republican Convention and decides to support Reagan that picks Schweitzer as his running mate. Things were pretty bad for Udall in the Northeast, that is why he decided to take more focus on the west and on the south, picking Bentsen. However, that wasn't enough: Udall was popular in the West but he lost some ground in the South when Reagan portrayed him as "not-tough on Crime" making some inroads in the Deep South. Bentsen was pretty valuable, crucial in the South. Idaho, Utah, Nevada were big surprises of the night because they tend to go Democrat Way only when it's going to be a landslide, many specialists told that this was a result of the power of Udall with LDS Voters.

Pretty Strange Map


Former Governor Ronald Reagan/ Senator Richard Schweiker (R) 320 EVs 49.8%
Senator Mo Udall/ Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D) 218 EVs 49.4%
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I) 0,8%

1980 Election (I want to do this timeline)


Governor Jerry Brown/ Senator Jimmy Carter (D) 422 EVs 53.38%
President Ronald Reagan/ Vice-President Richard Schweiker 116 EVs 43,12%
Representative John B. Anderson/ Former Governor Patrick Lucey 0 EV 3,1%
Others 0,4%

To be developed. Jerry Brown goes like Reagan in real life, but his stand on issues can't allow him to destroy Reagan, that performed slightly better than real life President Carter. Oh, talikng about Carter decided to run for Senator after loosing the nomination for Mo Udall!
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« Reply #3784 on: July 31, 2013, 12:44:50 am »


Bachmann/Dalrymple vs. Clinton/Castro? I'm thinking the VP nom might need to be Sebelius to get KS/NE, but this would work too.

Correct!
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« Reply #3785 on: July 31, 2013, 08:28:25 am »

Clinton/Warner v. Santorum/Walker v. Huntsman/Christie v. Paul/Amash

(D) Clinton/Warner: 469 (34.3%)
(L) Paul/Amash: 29 (23.1%)
(I) Huntsman/Christie: 21 (21.5%)
(R) Santorum/Walker: 19 (20.0%)
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« Reply #3786 on: August 04, 2013, 10:35:26 am »

1948

Fmr. Gov. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN)/Gov. Earl Warren (R-CA): 325
Pres. Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Sen. Alben Barkley (D-KY): 168
Gov. Strom Thurmond (SRD-SC)/Gov. Fielding Wright (SRD-MS): 38

1952

Pres. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN)/Vice Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA): 462
Gov. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Sen. John Sparkman (D-AL): 69

1956

Vice Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Sen. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): 362
Fmr. Gov. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN): 169

1960

Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 393
Pres. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Vice Pres. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): 144
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« Reply #3787 on: August 05, 2013, 08:04:41 pm »



HINT:  Has something to do with seniority in the United States Senate.
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« Reply #3788 on: August 05, 2013, 08:15:27 pm »

A hypothetical Hoover vs. Smith rematch in 1932, based off of Smith's 1928 percentages and Hoover's 1932 percentages.

For example, Smith won 45% of the vote in Connecticut in 1928 and Hoover won 48% in 1932. Adding the sum of their vote percentages gives Hoover a 51%, so he wins that state. This is how the map turned out:



Governor Al Smith (D-NY) / Senator Joseph T. Robinson (D-AR) 321 electoral votes, 50.7% of the popular vote
President Herbert Hoover (R-CA) / Vice President Charles Curtis (R-KS) 210 electoral votes, 49.3% of the popular vote.

Many states were extremely close, Illinois, Nebraska and Kentucky being decided by a margin of less than one percent.

The results were pretty surprising, I didn't expect Hoover to lose Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Upper Plains while winning West Virginia.

Smith's best state was South Carolina, where he won 93.28% of the vote.
Hoover's best state was Vermont, where he won 63.69% of the vote.

I was surprised the popular vote was as narrow as it was, considering Smith won comfortably in the electoral vote and his massive margins in the South. However, Hoover won a lot of large industrial states by fair margins, like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Many of Smith's larger states were won narrowly, like Illinois and New York.
How did you calculate that?
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« Reply #3789 on: August 05, 2013, 09:10:50 pm »

It was actually quite simple, and as a result most likely inaccurate. I suppose I didn't explain it well, so here's a better explanation.

Al Smith won 45.57% of the vote in Connecticut in 1928.

Herbert Hoover won 48.54% of the vote.

Adding these totals gives a "sum" of 94.11. To get Hoover's percentage I did 48.54÷94.11 to get 51.58%, which is actually closer to 52%. So that's about it.
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« Reply #3790 on: August 05, 2013, 09:39:18 pm »

2008


Clinton/Dodd: 382 (52.8%)
McCain/Palin: 156 (46.8%)
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« Reply #3791 on: August 05, 2013, 09:55:15 pm »
« Edited: August 05, 2013, 11:05:45 pm by Abbott for PM! »

2008


Clinton/Dodd: 382 (52.8%)
McCain/Palin: 156 (46.8%)

How does McCain carry CO while losing NE-2?
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« Reply #3792 on: August 05, 2013, 11:16:22 pm »

2008


Clinton/Dodd: 382 (52.8%)
McCain/Palin: 156 (46.8%)

How does McCain carry CO while losing NE-2?

NE-2 is extremely close in this scenario, as it was in real life.  Colorado, IIRC, favored McCain over Hillary but Obama over McCain.  The same may have been true with Nevada and New Mexico, but I'm not really sure.
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« Reply #3793 on: August 05, 2013, 11:44:48 pm »

2008


Clinton/Dodd: 382 (52.8%)
McCain/Palin: 156 (46.8%)

How does McCain carry CO while losing NE-2?

NE-2 is extremely close in this scenario, as it was in real life.  Colorado, IIRC, favored McCain over Hillary but Obama over McCain.  The same may have been true with Nevada and New Mexico, but I'm not really sure.

Thanks for that, and thinking about it, the western states aren't Clinton's best area...
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« Reply #3794 on: August 07, 2013, 06:06:56 pm »

2016:
Clinton/O'Malley v. Cruz/Lee

Clinton/O'Malley: 359 (53.24%)
Cruz/Lee: 179 (44.90%)
Other: 1.86%

2020:
Christie/Huntsman v. O'Malley/Grimes

Christie/Huntsman: 297 (50.37%)
O'Malley/Grimes: 241 (48.21%)
Other: 1.42%
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« Reply #3795 on: August 07, 2013, 06:31:12 pm »

2016


Fmr. Gov. Jon Huntsman (R-UT)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 337
Vice Pres. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): 201
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« Reply #3796 on: August 07, 2013, 07:29:51 pm »

2016


Fmr. Gov. Jon Huntsman (R-UT)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 337
Vice Pres. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): 201

Beautiful!
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« Reply #3797 on: August 07, 2013, 10:18:17 pm »

Surprise Jill Stein win 2012:

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« Reply #3798 on: August 08, 2013, 09:17:46 am »


Not so beautiful....
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« Reply #3799 on: August 08, 2013, 02:51:06 pm »

2012


Romney/Ryan 273 (50.7%)
Obama/Biden  265  (48.3%)
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