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« Reply #4325 on: August 04, 2014, 10:23:23 am »

2016



Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio (Democratic Party)
Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and Senator Scott Brown of New Hampshire (Republican Party)

2020



Governor Anna Atkins of Colorado and Former Senator Rachel Frazier of Virginia (Democratic Party)
Governor Donald Clybourn of Texas and Senator Paul Allen of Minnesota (Republican Party)

2024



President Donald Clybourn of Texas and Vice President Paul Allen of Minnesota (Republican Party)
Governor Bruce Flannagan of Maryland and Congresswoman Alexis Carter of Georgia (Democratic Party)

2028



Congressman Aaron Marquez of New Jersey and DNC Chairwoman Maciejewski of Kentucky (Democratic Party)
Governor Barbara Mills of Ohio and Congressman Scott Hanley of New York (Republican Party)

2032



President Barbara Mills of Ohio and Vice President Scott Hanley of New York (Republican Party)
Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court Greg McGraw of West Virginia and Former Senator Patricia George of Texas (Democratic Party)
Activist Brandy Evans of Ohio and Journalist Krista Ramirez of Arizona (United Socialist Party)

2036



Vice President Scott Hanley of New York and Activist Michael Brandt of California (Republican Party)
Congresswoman Lisa Gamache of Texas and Former Attorney General Bill Hyman of New York (Democratic Party)
Blog Editor Haley Thompson of Indiana and Activist Krystal Chamberlain of California (United Socialist Party)

2040



President Lisa Gamache of Texas and Vice President Bill Hyman of New York (Democratic Party)
Governor Shelly Hepburn of Maryland and Senator Nelson Tsukida of Florida (Republican Party)
Journalist Ann Hall of Pennsylvania and Lawyer Deborah McGuire of Florida

2044



Vice President Bill Hyman of New York and Governor Rebecca Robinson of California (Democratic Party)
Former Secretary of Defense Elizabeth White of Michigan and Congresswoman Sara Rosenberg of Florida (Republican Party)
Senator Devyn Wallace-Henderson of Montana and Senator Beth Kees of California (United Socialist Party)

2048



President Bill Hyman of New York and Vice President Rebecca Robinson of California (Democratic Party)
Associate Justice James Coleman of North Carolina and Senator Lucrecia Hanson of California (Republican Party)
Governor Donald Stephens of Pennsylvania and House Socialist Leader Ellie Fernandez of California (United Socialist Party)
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« Reply #4326 on: August 04, 2014, 10:50:05 am »

2052



Vice President Rebecca Robinson of California and Secretary of Defense Susan Good of Arizona (Democratic Party)
Senator Shelby Adams of Pennsylvania and Governor Elizabeth Alford of Hawaii (Republican Party)
Governor Anna Schaefer of Michigan and House Socialist Leader Benjamin Miller of New York (United Socialist Party)

2056



President Shelby Adams of Pennsylvania and Vice President Elizabeth Alford of Hawaii (Republican Party)
Former Attorney General Ernesto Martinez of Pennsylvania and Governor Natalie Gifford of California (Democratic Party)
Former Congressman Harold Ross of Illinois and House Socialist Leader Debra Mahoney (United Socialist Party)

2060



President Ernesto Martinez of Pennsylvania and Vice President Natalie Gifford of California (Democratic Party)
Governor Douglas Frazier of Pennsylvania and Secretary of the Treasury Sophie Luong of California (Republican Party)
American Postal Workers Union President Amy Tan of California and United Farm Workers President Isaac Brantley of Illinois (United Socialist Party)

2064



Vice President Sophie Luong of California and Senator Bill Beyer of Pennsylvania (Republican Party)
Governor John Mireles of Florida and House Democratic Leader Yvette Andrews of Missouri (Democratic Party)
United Farm Workers President Isaac Brantley of Illinois and Senator Mary Haynes of California (United Socialist Party)

2068



President John Mireles of Florida and Vice President Yvette Andrews of Missouri (Democratic Party)
General Electric CEO Douglas Boyd of Ohio and Senate Republican Leader Gary Phelps of Florida (Republican Party)
Governor Martin Wade of Minnesota and Senator Alma Caceres of Massachusetts (United Socialist Party)

2072



Vice President Yvette Andrews of Missouri and House Democratic Leader Jennifer Powers of Georgia (Democratic Party)
Former Vice President Sophie Luong of California and Editor David Passmore of New Hampshire (Republican Party)
Senator Mary Haynes of California and Senate Socialist Leader Michael Martinez of Illinois (United Socialist Party)

2076



President Sophie Luong of California and Vice President David Passmore of New Hampshire (Republican Party)
Governor Jeff Ponderosa of Wisconsin and House Democratic Leader Kristina Ramirez of North Carolina (Democratic Party)
New York City Mayor Irene Favela of New York and Senator Allison Gaillard of Louisiana (United Socialist Party)
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« Reply #4327 on: August 07, 2014, 10:52:04 am »

Why are Wyoming and Montana some of the first states to go for the Socialist party? 
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« Reply #4328 on: August 07, 2014, 04:06:48 pm »

√ Gov. Bill Clinton/Sen. Bob Kerrey: 438 (55.9%)
Vice Pres. Dan Quayle/Sec. Jack Kemp: 100 (42.8%)
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« Reply #4329 on: August 07, 2014, 10:45:50 pm »

2012 - Obama v. Huckabee



President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 51.2%, 368 EV's
Fmr. Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Fmr. Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) - 44.6%, 170 EV's
Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX) - 3.4%, 0 EV's
Others - 0.8%, 0 EV's
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« Reply #4330 on: August 08, 2014, 11:15:51 am »

Why are Wyoming and Montana some of the first states to go for the Socialist party? 

Montana has a long history of radicalism. It was one of the hotbeds of the original Socialist Party and the IWW in the early 20th Century, and has a bit of a libertarian-left streak about it. Given that, I gave Montana to the USP. Wyoming went for the USP as the result of a strong unionization campaign in its coal fields (the most productive in the US).
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« Reply #4331 on: August 08, 2014, 12:48:29 pm »

Charting A Different Course

1936



President Franklin Roosevelt of New York and Vice President John Garner of Texas (Democratic Party): 500
Governor Floyd Olson of Minnesota and Senator Robert La Follette, Jr. of Wisconsin (American Labor Party): 23
Governor Alf Landon of Kansas and Frank Knox of Illinois (Republican Party): 8

1940



President Franklin Roosevelt of New York and House Speaker William Bankhead of Alabama (Democratic Party): 379
New York City Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York and Congressman Francis Shoemaker of Minnesota (American Labor Party): 81
Wendell Willkie of Indiana and Senator Charles McNary of Oregon (Republican Party): 71

1944



President Franklin Roosevelt of New York and Director of the Office of War Mobilization James Byrnes of South Carolina (Democratic Party): 355
Governor Charles Poletti of New York and Governor Elmer Benson of Minnesota (American Labor Party): 99
General Douglas MacArthur of New York and Governor John Bricker of Ohio (Republican Party): 77

1948



President James Byrnes of South Carolina and Senator Alben Barkley of Kentucky (Democratic Party): 228
Henry Wallace of Iowa and Senator Glen Taylor of Idaho (American Labor Party): 188
Governor Thomas Dewey of New York and Governor Earl Warren of California (Republican Party): 115

Election thrown to the House of Representatives, which re-elects incumbent President Byrnes.

1952



General Dwight Eisenhower of New York and Senator John Sparkman of Alabama (Democratic Party): 441*
Governor Maurice Tobin of Massachusetts and Senator James Murray of Montana (American Labor Party): 90

1956



President Dwight Eisenhower of New York and Vice President John Sparkman of Alabama (Democratic Party): 457
Governor Robert F. Wagner, Jr. of New York and Senator Walter A. O'Brien, Jr. of Massachusetts (American Labor Party): 74

1960



Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Senator Richard M. Nixon of California (Democratic Party): 225
Senator Mike Mansfield of Montana and Senator Paul Douglas of Illinois (American Labor Party): 312

1964



President Paul Douglas of Illinois and Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota (American Labor Party): 486
Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona and Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota (Democratic Party): 52

1968



Richard Nixon of California and Governor George Wallace of Alabama (Democratic Party): 303
Vice President Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota and Senator Abraham Ribicoff of Connecticut (American Labor Party): 192
Governor Patrick Lucey of Wisconsin and Senator Mark Hatfield of Oregon (Peace and Prosperity Party): 43
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« Reply #4332 on: August 08, 2014, 01:42:55 pm »

1972



President Richard Nixon of California and Vice President George Wallace of Alabama (Democratic Party): 517
Senator George McGovern of South Dakota and Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska (American Labor Party): 17

1976



Governor Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and Senator Frank Church of Idaho (American Labor Party): 297
President George Wallace of Alabama and Senator Bob Dole of Kansas (Democratic Party): 237

1980



Ronald Reagan of California and Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas (Democratic Party): 490
President Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia and Vice President Frank Church of Idaho (American Labor Party): 48

1984



President Lloyd Bentsen of Texas and Vice President George Bush of Connecticut (Democratic Party): 525
Frank Church of Idaho and Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota (American Labor Party): 13

1988



Vice President George Bush of Texas and Senator Al Gore of Tennessee (Democratic Party): 426
Governor William A. O'Neill of Connecticut and Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico (American Labor Party): 112

1992



Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts and Jesse Jackson of South Carolina (American Labor Party): 371
President George Bush of Connecticut and Vice President Al Gore of Tennessee (Democratic Party): 167

1996



President Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts and Vice President Jesse Jackson of South Carolina (American Labor Party): 379
Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas and Congressman Jack Kemp of New York (Democratic Party): 159

2000



Al Gore of Tennessee and Senator Jack Danforth of Missouri (Democratic Party): 271
Vice President Jesse Jackson of South Carolina and Governor Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire (American Labor Party): 267

2004



President Jack Danforth of Missouri and Vice President John Edwards of North Carolina (Democratic Party): 286
Governor Howard Dean of Vermont and Governor Chris Gregoire of Washington (American Labor Party): 252

2008



Senator John McCain of Arizona and Senator Joe Biden of Delaware (Democratic Party): 172
Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico (American Labor Party): 366

2012



President Barack Obama of Illinois and Vice President Bill Richardson of Nex Mexico (American Labor Party): 337
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin (Democratic Party): 201
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« Reply #4333 on: August 09, 2014, 03:46:52 pm »

√ Sen. John McCain/Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison: 280 (49.7%)
Sen. Barack Obama/Sen. Joe Biden: 258 (48.9%)

√ Pres. John McCain/Vice Pres. Kay Bailey Hutchison: 291 (50.9%)
Gov. Bill Richardson/Gov. Martin O'Malley: 247 (47.8%)

√ Sen. Hillary Clinton/Gov. Cory Booker: 364 (53.1%)
Gov. Mike Huckabee/Sen. John Thune: 174 (45.4%)
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« Reply #4334 on: August 11, 2014, 11:44:25 am »
« Edited: June 24, 2015, 03:27:24 pm by MATTROSE94 »

1992 (Michael Dukakis runs again):

Former Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR): 279 Electoral Votes 40%
President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice-President Dan Quayle (R-IN): 235 Electoral Votes 35.5%
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Retired Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA): 24 Electoral Votes 23.9%
Others (Libertarian, Socialist, Etc.) 0 Electoral Votes 0.6%
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« Reply #4335 on: August 11, 2014, 10:26:54 pm »

A rematch 20 years later....
2016:

Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 365EV
Bob Dole (R-KS)/Nikki Haley (R-SC) 173EV
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« Reply #4336 on: August 12, 2014, 08:16:23 am »

√ Frm. Sec. Hillary Clinton/Gov. Jay Nixon: 353 (52%)
Gov. Nikki Haley/Gov. Rick Perry: 185 (46%)
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« Reply #4337 on: August 15, 2014, 10:43:47 am »

√ Brian Sandoval/Rand Paul: 272 (49.5%)
Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner: 266 (49.4%)
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« Reply #4338 on: August 16, 2014, 11:44:13 pm »

President Thune



South Dakota Senator John Thune
Indiana Representative Mike Pence
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
Texas Representative Ron Paul
Fmr. Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour



South Dakota Senator John Thune/Ohio Senator Rob Portman-272 EVs
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden-266 EVs
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« Reply #4339 on: August 17, 2014, 12:20:00 pm »

The Battle of the Authors


√ George R.R. Martin (D-NM)/John Green (D-IN) - 370
Rick Rioardan (R-TX)/John Grisham (R-AR) - 168
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« Reply #4340 on: August 22, 2014, 02:24:45 am »



President Barack Obama / Vice President Joe Biden - 237, 63,538,749 - 49.1%
Frmr. Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney / Frmr. Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty - 301, 64,694,005    - 50.0%
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« Reply #4341 on: August 22, 2014, 04:20:37 am »

2016


Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 313 (50.48%)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)/John Thune (R-SD) 225 (48.23%)
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« Reply #4342 on: August 31, 2014, 02:20:55 pm »

√ Mitt Romney/Susana Martinez: 272 (49.3%)
Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner: 266 (49.1%))
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« Reply #4343 on: August 31, 2014, 04:22:37 pm »

Election of 2060



Maria Rodriguez (FL-GOV)/Jake Gillibrand (NY-SEN) 291 EV 50.2%

Evelyn Smith (TN-GOV)/Edgar Watson (IL-GOV)  247 EV 48.0%
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« Reply #4344 on: August 31, 2014, 04:46:12 pm »

Senate Elections:



60R/40D


House:



245D/190R
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« Reply #4345 on: August 31, 2014, 05:29:20 pm »


I'm pretty sure that in 2060 Puerto Rico, Guam and American Samoa will be states. Wink
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« Reply #4346 on: August 31, 2014, 11:32:14 pm »

1988: Senator Gore beats back Senator Armstrong



Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 49.2%, 270 EV's
Senator Bill Armstrong (R-CO)/Governor George Deukmejian (R-CA) - 49.8%, 268 EV's

1992: President Gore beats back stiff opposition



President Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 38.8%, 331 EV's
Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)/Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TN) - 37.4%, 207 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA) - 22.6%, 0 EV's

1996: Contest of the Hillary Lovers



Governor William Weld (R-MA)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 43.8%, 272 EV's
Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE) - 43.4%, 266 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA) - 12.3%, 0 EV's
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« Reply #4347 on: September 04, 2014, 08:45:10 pm »
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Lincoln narrowly survives at Ford's Theater.  From this point forward, he sides with the Radical Republicans on Reconstruction.  The 16th Amendment, ratified in 1868, gives the federal government sole authority over the conduct of elections.

1868




Charles Sumner/Schuyler Colfax 200 EV 53.9%
Horatio Seymour/Francis P. Blair 94 EV 46.1%

1872



Schuyler Colfax/William A. Wheeler 332 EV 59.1%
Andrew Johnson/Salmon P. Chase 20 EV 40.9%

With the help of the 16th Amendment, a Southern Democratic machine governments is successfully overthrown in Georgia.  Electors for Louisiana and Arkansas are also successfully disqualified due to equal protection violations there.

1876



Schuyler Colfax/William A. Wheeler 368 EV  68.7%

Horatio Seymour/Thomas Hendricks 1 EV* 31.3%
*A Kentucky elector defects to keep the George Washington tradition alive

1880



William A. Wheeler/Chester A. Arthur 187 EV 34.8%
James Garfield/James B. Weaver (Populist) 120 EV 39.1%
Grover Cleveland/Winfield Hancock 62 EV 26.1%

1884



James Garfield/James B. Weaver 256 EV 56.8%

William A. Wheeler/Chester A. Arthur 145 EV 43.2%

1886: The 17th Amendment is ratified, abolishing the electoral college

1888



James Garfield/James B. Weaver 60.3%
Chester A. Arthur/James G. Blaine 39.0%
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« Reply #4348 on: September 04, 2014, 09:36:00 pm »
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This might get a little too optimistic about social progress from here on, but might the real world events of the 1870's have cost us 100 years?

In 1890, the 18th Amendment passes, granting women voting rights and requiring protection of these rights through the 16th Amendment

1892



James B. Weaver/William Jennings Bryan 53.5%
Thomas Brackett Reed/Matthew Quay 45.0%

1896



William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid 51.6%
James B. Weaver/William Jennings Bryan 48.0%

1900



William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson 52.5%
William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid 47.1%

1904



William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson 57.8%
Alton B. Parker/Joseph B. Foraker 41.1%

1908



W.E.B. DuBois/Charles Evans Hughes 52.3%

Adlai Stevenson/Mary Ellen Lease 47.1%


1912




W.E.B. DuBois/Charles Evans Hughes 50.2%

John W. Kern/George Gray 48.8%

1916



Sara Ann Roosevelt/Robert La Follette 55.5%
Charles Evans Hughes/William Randolph Hearst 43.3%

1920




Sara Ann Roosevelt/Robert La Follette 61.2%

Charles G. Dawes/Herbert Hoover 37.1%
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« Reply #4349 on: September 05, 2014, 09:57:20 pm »

√ Hillary Clinton/Sherrod Brown: 323 (51.2%)
Rand Paul/Scott Walker: 215 (47.6%)

√ Jon Huntsman/Kelly Ayotte: 279 (50.0%)
Hillary Clinton/Sherrod Brown: 259 (49.1%)
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