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« Reply #4425 on: December 01, 2014, 04:01:45 pm »

The Darkest Timeline: Moderate Heroism

1992 Presidential Election
Perot runs a perfect campaign, nearly ties the popular vote and sends the election to Congress. The Democratic-controlled congress selects Clinton and Gore as President and Vice President.



Bill Clinton/Al Gore 35%, 255 EVs
Ross Perot/James Stockdale 34%, 171 EVs
George Bush/Dan Quayle 29%, 112 EVs

Interim
Ross Perot, furious that he lost such a close election, hires an army of political of consultants and dumps a massive amount of personal fortune into founding a new political party, the Reform Party, ordering his surrogates to "shake the bastards up." The 1994 midterms are historic in the number of defeated incumbents, with the Reform party electing dozens of representatives to the US house and winning a handful of senate and gubernatorial races.

In 1995, Ross Perot suffers a stroke. Unable to run for president himself, he persuades Colin Powell to run on the Reform ticket. Powell is easily nominated and selects Jim Jeffords, the Vermont Senator who recently switched from the Republican to Reform Party, as his running mate.

1996 Presidential Election
In a historic election, Colin Powell becomes America's first black president and first president elected from a new party since Abraham Lincoln in 1996. His coattails bring in a significant number of Reform congressmen, enough to form working coalitions with the Republican and Democratic stalwarts.



Colin Powell/Jim Jeffords 40%, 317 EVs
Bill Clinton/Al Gore 33%, 108 EVs
Bob Dole/Jack Kemp 25%, 113 EVs

Interim
At this point, the Reform party is the party of Serious People. Everyone who subscribes to The Economist and watches CNN for the analysis is excited to have a party with Real Solutions willing Reach Across The Aisle to pass Bipartisan Deals. The Republican Party is a husk of its former self, reduced to the political wing of the Southern Baptist Convention (with an uneasy alliance with Those Mormons) and party of choice of the growing militia movement, located primarily in the mountain west, who are not all to happy about having One of Them in the "White" House. The Democratic Party has also been decimated, and after losing many of its liberal/moderate funders is now essentially the AFL-CIO's party, with all the loss of power that implies.

2000 Presidential Election
President Powell easily wins reelection. Gore's selection of Ted Kennedy as his running mate is not as helpful as The Pundits expect, while the Buchanan/Gingrich ticket proved absolutely farcical. Enough Reform congressmen and senators are elected to give Powell majorities in both houses, allowing the Reform party to discard with the coalition politics which had defined his first term in office.



Colin Powell/Jim Jeffords 44%, 348 EVs
Al Gore/Ted Kennedy 35%, 103 EVs
Pat Buchanan/Newt Gingrich 20%, 87 EVs

Aftermath
By 2016, the US is a one-party state, ruled by President Hillary Clinton and Vice President Andrew Cuomo of the Reform Party with an iron fist. Support of charter schools, low taxes, fracking, humanitarian interventionism, gay marriage, and HillaryCare are the default politics of the average American. The political junkies are looking forward to 2020, with Silicon Valley titan Larry Page and Wall Street favorite Steve Cohen look like the favorites going into the Reform Party primary, which of course elects the President in all but name. Who will the brave citizens of Iowa choose?
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« Reply #4426 on: December 01, 2014, 07:20:58 pm »

Why would Hillary Clinton join the party that ousted her husband? (Okay, I suppose my question presupposes a degree of loyalty in a couple that is power-hungry, but you get the idea)
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« Reply #4427 on: December 02, 2014, 12:49:15 pm »

2016



Walker/Toomey 311 EV 50.8%
Clinton/Hassan 227 EV 47.8%

Closest States:

Virginia: Walker/Toomey 49.4% Clinton/Hassan 49.0%
New Hampshire: Clinton/Hassan 49.5% Walker/Toomey 48.9%
Pennsylvania: Walker/Toomey 49.6% Clinton/Hassan 48.7%
ME CD-02: Clinton/Hassan 48.4% Walker/Toomey 47.4%
Nevada: Clinton/Hassan 49.8% Walker/Toomey 48.5%
Wisconsin (decides election): Walker/Toomey 50.2% Clinton/Hassan 48.4%
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« Reply #4428 on: December 02, 2014, 01:32:49 pm »

Modified Political Decapitation

The candidates that finished first and second in a state are removed in this series. In the event that only two candidates are on the ballot, only the first place finisher is removed. Some of the candidates and party names have been modified to make this make a bit more sense.

1840



James G. Birney (Liberty): 144
Martin Van Buren (Democratic): 102
William H. Harrison (Whig)Sad 48

No electoral majority. House of Representatives votes to re-elect President Van Buren.

1844



James G. Birney (Liberty): 175
Henry Clay (Whig): 67
James K. Polk (Democratic): 33

1848



James G. Birney (Liberty): 200
Zachary Taylor (Whig): 46
Lewis Cass (Democratic): 44

1852



John Parker Hale (Liberty): 228
Winfield Scott (Whig): 56
Franklin Pierce (Democratic): 12

1856



Millard Fillmore (American/Whig): 281
John C. Fremont (Liberty): 15
James Buchanan (Democratic): 0

1860



Stephen Douglas (People's): 238
John Bell (Constitutional Union): 55
Abraham Lincoln (Liberty): 10

Presidents of the United States
8. Martin Van Buren (Democratic): March 4, 1837 - March 4, 1845
9. James G. Birney (Liberty): March 4, 1845 - March 4, 1853
10. John P. Hale (Liberty): March 4, 1853 - March 4, 1857
11. Millard Fillmore (Whig/American): March 4, 1857 - March 4, 1861
12. Stephen Douglas (People's): March 4, 1861 - June 3, 1861*
13. John Breckinridge (People's): June 3, 1861 -

*Died in office.
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« Reply #4429 on: December 02, 2014, 02:03:47 pm »

1864



George B. McClellan (Democratic): 197
Abraham Lincoln (National Union): 21*
John C. Fremont (Liberty)Sad 15

*Merger of conservative elements of the Liberty Party with the Constitutional Union Party (which was, itself, a merger of the Whig and American parties in 1860).

1868



George B. McClellan (Democratic): 186
Ulysses S. Grant (Unionist): 80
Various candidates (Liberty): 28

1872



Charles O'Conor (People's (Reform)/Liberty): 227
Horace Greeley (People's): 94
Ulysses Grant (Unionist): 31

1876



Peter Cooper (Liberal): 248
Charles O'Conor (Reform): 71
Samuel Tilden (People's): 50

1876 saw a general political realignment that virtually swept away the previous party alignment of the country. After decades of instability in the ranks, the Liberty Party finally collapsed, with its remaining conservative elements merging with the reform faction of the People's Party and the Unionists to form the new Reform Party. The remnants of the Liberty Party merged with political radicals in the Greenback movement, as well as left-leaning members of both the People's and Unionist parties to form the Liberal Party, a new party committed to justice for the farmer and the petty producer.

1880



James B. Weaver (Liberal): 332
James A. Garfield (Reform/People's): 37
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« Reply #4430 on: December 02, 2014, 03:38:11 pm »



Portman/Baker 60% 495
Clinton/Mabus 34% 43
Sanders/Snowden 3%
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« Reply #4431 on: December 02, 2014, 04:34:28 pm »



Portman/Baker 60% 495
Clinton/Mabus 34% 43
Sanders/Snowden 3%


Please, Lord, let this happen.
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« Reply #4432 on: December 03, 2014, 05:42:05 pm »

2004 (Bush vs Edwards):

President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY): 323 Electoral Votes (51.7%)
Senator John Edwards (D-NC)/Former General Wesley Clark (D-AR): 215 Electoral Votes (47.3%)
Others (Libertarian, Green, Socialist Workers, etc.) 0 Electoral Votes (1%)
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« Reply #4433 on: December 06, 2014, 01:41:42 pm »

√ Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio: 291 (51.0%)
Martin O'Malley/Amy Klobuchar: 247 (47.6%)
Other: 1.4%
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« Reply #4434 on: December 06, 2014, 02:36:28 pm »

Romney's the One!



Romney/Hogan 43.4% 274
Clinton/Klobuchar 42.7% 232
Cruz/LePage 13.5% 32
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« Reply #4435 on: December 07, 2014, 03:29:57 pm »

Inspired by a 2016 thread:


SoS. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 387EV
Rep. Peter King (R-NY) 126EV
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM) 25EV
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« Reply #4436 on: December 07, 2014, 07:35:01 pm »

2016 Democratic Primary



Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (64.5%)
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders (18.3%)
Fmr. Virginia Senator Jim Webb (15.6%)
Others 1.6%
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« Reply #4437 on: December 08, 2014, 11:01:41 am »

√ Jeb Bush: 50.9%
Mike Huckabee: 30.4%
Rand Paul: 17.7%
Other: 1.0%

√ Clinton/Warner: 270 (49.3%)
Bush/Paul: 268 (49.4%)
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« Reply #4438 on: December 08, 2014, 12:02:07 pm »

√ Jeb Bush: 50.9%
Mike Huckabee: 30.4%
Rand Paul: 17.7%
Other: 1.0%

√ Clinton/Warner: 270 (49.3%)
Bush/Paul: 268 (49.4%)

Fitting fate for a Bush!  J/K it should be 51/48 but with the same EV result!
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« Reply #4439 on: December 09, 2014, 02:42:32 pm »

1968 (Robert Kennedy Lives):

Senator Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 259 Electoral Votes (44.5%)
Former Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 220 Electoral Votes (40.7%)
Former Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-CA): 59 Electoral Votes (14.5%)
Others (Socialist Labor, Peace and Freedom, etc.): 0 Electoral Votes (0.3%)

The election then goes onto the House of Representatives, where George Wallace gets to play the role of kingmaker.
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« Reply #4440 on: December 09, 2014, 06:52:54 pm »

'96: Powell Defeats Clinton
√ Powell/Kemp: 274 (49.2%)
Clinton/Gore: 264 (48.9%)

'00: The Right Defeats Powell
√ Clinton/Kerry: 333 (50.9%)
Powell/Kemp: 205 (46.7%)
Other: 2.40%

'04: Kerry Defeats Bush
√ Kerry/Edwards: 284 (50.4%)
Bush/Giuliani: 254 (48.2%)

'08: McCain Defeats Kerry
√ McCain/Sununu: 322 (52.2%)
Kerry/Edwards: 216 (46.6%)

'12: McCain beats Feingold
√ McCain/Sununu: 310 (51.8%)
Feingold/Biden: 228 (46.9%)
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« Reply #4441 on: December 11, 2014, 08:44:04 am »

Romney Defeats Obama
√ Romney/Rubio: 291 (50.9%)
Obama/Biden: 247 (47.7%)

Romney Opts out for Reelection
*Clinton/Brown: 269 (50.0%)
**Rubio/Thune: 269 (49.2%)

*: House Elects Clinton President
**: Senate Elects Thune
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« Reply #4442 on: December 11, 2014, 09:52:22 am »

1980 (John Anderson doesn't run):

Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Former Ambassador George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 375 Electoral Votes (52.7%)
President Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN): 163 Electoral Votes (45.1%)
Others (Libertarian, Citizens, Communist, etc.): 0 Electoral Votes (2.2%)

Still a decent margin of victory for Ronald Reagan, though Jimmy Carter does gain a good amount of support in the Northeast and the South.
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« Reply #4443 on: December 11, 2014, 11:19:28 am »

2012

Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice Pres. Joe Biden (D-DE): 446 EVs (58% PV)
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI): 92 EVs (40% PV)
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« Reply #4444 on: December 12, 2014, 02:19:45 am »



Reagan 1980 vs Romney 2012

(>30% corresponds to less than 3.6%, which is the difference between Reagan's percentage and Romney's percentage. All other shades are increments of 5%)
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« Reply #4445 on: December 12, 2014, 12:38:54 pm »

Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton/U.S. Senator Brian Schatz: 270 Electoral Votes - 50% of the Popular Vote

Governor Chris Christie/Governor Scott Walker: 268 Electoral Votes - 48% of the Popular Vote

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« Reply #4446 on: December 15, 2014, 09:43:30 pm »
« Edited: December 15, 2014, 09:49:37 pm by Goldwater »

Some climate maps:







The first one is hottest month temperatures, the second one is coldest month temperatures, and the third one is precipitation.
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« Reply #4447 on: December 15, 2014, 10:20:01 pm »

1964

Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Fmr. Rep. Walter H. Judd (R-MN): 369 EVs (53% PV)
Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): 169 EVs (45% PV)

1968

Pres. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Vice Pres. Walter H. Judd (R-MN): 418 EVs (48% PV)
Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Sen. Edmund S. Muskie (D-ME): 67 EVs (38% PV)
Fmr. Gov. George Wallace (I-AL)/Fmr. Gov. Marvin Griffin (I-GA): 53 EVs (14% PV)
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« Reply #4448 on: December 15, 2014, 10:25:20 pm »

Bush/Ayotte: 285 (51.0%)
Warren/O'Malley: 253 (47.9%)
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« Reply #4449 on: December 16, 2014, 03:27:54 am »
« Edited: December 17, 2014, 01:38:41 am by Kraxner »

2016:

Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro 323 48.7%

Marco Rubio/Rand Paul 215 46.3%







2020: Good economy


Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro 430 51.6%

Jeb Bush/Chris Christie 108 40.1%

Gary Johnson/Tom Tancredo Libertarian+Constitution party 5.4%








2016


Chris Christie/Susana Martinez 353 51.81%


Elizabeth Warren/Bernie Sanders 185 40.2%






2020


Chris Christie/Susana Martinez 390 54.24%  


Amy Klobuchar/Claire McCaskill 148 38.2%






2024

Julian Castro/Joaquín Castro 353 49.4%  

Cory Gardner/Ted Cruz  185 42.8%  






2024

Beau Biden/Joaquín Castro 276 49.8%  

Cory Gardner/Ted Cruz  262 46.2%  







2028

Beau Biden/Joaquín Castro 383 52.5%  

Ted Cruz/???  155 46.6%  



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