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« Reply #4725 on: August 28, 2015, 02:19:17 am »

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« Reply #4726 on: August 28, 2015, 02:58:23 am »
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Former California Governor Ronald Reagan (R - CA)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R - NY): 459 EVs (56.4% PV)
Senator Edward Kennedy (D - MA)/Congressman John Anderson (I - IL): 79 EVs (41.8% PV)
Others: 0 EVs (1.8% PV)

Senator Ted Kennedy manages to primary out incumbent President Jimmy Carter. For his Vice Presidential nominee, he picks Congressman John Anderson, the 3rd place winner of the Republican primaries. Kennedy aims to attract Rockefeller Republicans and moderates away from Reagan to snatch the election. However, choosing Anderson proves to an unintended drawback for the Senator. Many Democrats feel betrayed by Kennedy's choice of a former Republican for his Vice President, even if said Republican is a liberal one. Furthermore, many Southerners and blue-collar voters, who would rather support Carter over Kennedy, either stay home or switch to the GOP, allowing Reagan to have much stronger PV percentages in the South and Midwest; he even squeaks a slight victory in Minnesota. Ronald Reagan offers George H.W. Bush a Cabinet position instead of the Vice Presidency, which Bush accepts. Instead of Bush, Reagan picks Congressman Jack Kemp of New York. Kemp makes the Vice Presidential Debate memorable, successfully defeating Anderson on policy and calling him out for party switching. Kennedy does manage to snatch more liberal areas, but the lack of a significant third party presence and his poor performance with moderates and Southerners limits his growth. Reagan still wins in a landslide.
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« Reply #4727 on: August 28, 2015, 03:45:27 am »

George W. Bush/Willard M. Romney: 269 (49.40%)∆
Barack Obama/John Kerry: 269 (49.49%)*
Other: 0 (1.11%)

*Barack Obama Elected President via the House of Representatives
∆Mitt Romney Re-Elected Vice President via the Senate

How long would Vice President Romney last or choose to serve under President Obama? I assume based on the number of EVs per map that this one is the 2016 election, which means that our world's version of the Atlas forum would still be talking about Obama's chances in the primaries compared to other candidates.
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« Reply #4728 on: August 29, 2015, 02:55:51 pm »



√ John Julian McKeithen (D-LA) / Birch Bayh (D-IN) 358 EV

President Richard Nixon / Vice President Spiro Agnew 180 EV

Others 0.5% of PV

President McKeithen died in a plane crash in July 1976. Birch Bayh became unpopular with southerners and many moderates when he sent more troops overseas. The Republicans split on the issue of neoliberalism vs. social conservatives; when Bush won a contentions nomination by caking his opponent Ronald Reagan in mud, SoCons were ready to rebel. Reagan refused to run, so they found a hero in former VP and conservative talk show host Spiro Agnew under the Moral Majority party, or Moral party for short. George McGovern campaigned for the Peace and Love party, which was popular with hippies and young people opposed to war. It cut into the support of a democratic ticket that largely ignored liberals, even with the addition of Walter Mondale.

George C. Wallace ran a more populist campaign intending on bringing more non-southerns to support him. It worked magic.  Promising to "kick the money-changers out of the people's temple" in Washington DC, few pundits gave him more than a longshot chance of victory as most had originally been surprised he was running at all. He would prove just how foolish they were.



√ George C. Wallace  (AIP-AL)/ Dick Lamm (AIP-CO) 290 EV (Won PV)

President Birch Bayh (D-IN) / Walter Mondale (D-MN) 106 EV (3rd in PV)

George Bush (R-TX) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 67 EV (2nd in PV)

George McGovern (PL-SD) / Pete McCloskey (PL-CA) 48 EV (5th in PV)

Former Vice President Spiro Agnew (M-MD) / Dick Cheney (M-WY) 27 PV (4th in PV)

President Wallace was much less of a disaster than many groups, especially minority groups, believed. Academics point to his record as Alabama governor as being pro-civil rights by deep southern standards to explain this. However, he did try to pass a state's rights bill on some issues such as school busing. Congress and the Supreme Court made it clear before he even set foot in the oval office that any attempt to allow segregation would fail.

President Wallace, who had been forced to withdraw for the '72 election as a result of a failed attempt on his life, struggled with health problems throughout his presidency. His presidency was not a failure, as he worked with congress to pass important legislation working to prevent serious inflation.

President Wallace declined to run for reelection, citing poor health and lack of energy late in his presidency. The AIP nominated Vice President Lamm, who's opponents made a huge issue of a major gaffe ("Old people have a duty to die"). Lamm campaigned on the issues of state's rights, the success of the Wallace presidency, and the evils of returning to a two-party duopoly.

The GOP, having been bitterly divided and conquered four years ago, had only one option to heal itself. Ronald Reagan, who had crushed economic elites such as Nelson Rockefeller and Dick Cheney, moderates such as Gerald Ford, and far-right Moral Majoritarians such as Spiro Agnew who was blasted for leaving the party and was ruined by long-suppressed evidence finally coming out from the 60s regarding his corruption while commissioner of Baltimore County, MD.

Ronald Reagan sought to reinvent the GOP in his image. After winning the nomination, Reagan was endorsed by all of his major primary opponents and by the Moral Majority party which had already been re-abosrbed by the GOP. Reagan chose former Illinois governor and future president Donald Rumsfeld as his running mate, adding a young face to the ticket.

The Democrats nominated former New York gov. Hugh Carey as their nominee. Carey was endorsed by his primary rival Walter Mondale and selected southerner Jimmy Carter as his running mate. Jimmy Carter was a good choice as it allowed the democrats to campaign better in the south.

Hugh Carey was not the great orator that Reagan was. Because of his demeanor he came across and angry and older than Reagan, even though Reagan was older. Carey later revealed in his memoirs that if his wife was still alive, he would have been more charming and charismatic on the campaign trail.

George McGovern campaigned to be renominated for the Peace and Love party, but lost the nominated to a rising start in Ron Dellums, who chose attorney Ralph Nader to be his running mate. Ron Dellums became the first African-American candidate to receive electoral votes in a presidential election. 



√ Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 276 EV

Hugh Carey (D-NY) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 190 EV

Vice President Dick Lamm (AIP-CO) / various 65 EV

Ron Dellums (PL-CA) / Ralph Nadar (PL-CT) 7 EV
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« Reply #4729 on: August 29, 2015, 09:17:11 pm »



Republicans 199
Democrats 199
Movimiento Popular Chicano 124
League of Deseret 16
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« Reply #4730 on: August 29, 2015, 11:06:11 pm »

America with Australian Parties

2013 Presidential Election




Liberal- 222 EV- 32.02%
Labor- 206 EV- 33.38%
Country- 77 EV- 4.29%
Greens- 13 EV- 8.65% (Fights for DC statehood, and is supported by Hawaiian Asian American communities)
Katter's Australian Party- 1.04% (Centered around coal mining areas in KY &WV)- 13 EV[/color
Palmer United Party- 5.49%  (Supported mainly by Mormons, in their calls for greater state devolution.)- 6EV
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« Reply #4731 on: August 29, 2015, 11:09:00 pm »

America with Australian Parties

2013 Presidential Election




Liberal- 222 EV- 32.02%
Labor- 206 EV- 33.38%
Country- 77 EV- 4.29%
Greens- 13 EV- 8.65% (Fights for DC statehood, and is supported by Hawaiian Asian American communities)
Katter's Australian Party- 1.04% (Centered around coal mining areas in KY &WV)- 13 EV[/color
Palmer United Party- 5.49%  (Supported mainly by Mormons, in their calls for greater state devolution.)- 6EV

Nice map! Cheesy

Why did ME-01 vote the way it did?
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« Reply #4732 on: August 29, 2015, 11:11:50 pm »

America with Australian Parties

2013 Presidential Election




Liberal- 222 EV- 32.02%
Labor- 206 EV- 33.38%
Country- 77 EV- 4.29%
Greens- 13 EV- 8.65% (Fights for DC statehood, and is supported by Hawaiian Asian American communities)
Katter's Australian Party- 1.04% (Centered around coal mining areas in KY &WV)- 13 EV[/color
Palmer United Party- 5.49%  (Supported mainly by Mormons, in their calls for greater state devolution.)- 6EV

Nice map! Cheesy

Why did ME-01 vote the way it did?

For maine, ME-02 votes for Labor, and ME-01 for the Greens. My mistake, did this just for fun.

Anyways, Thank you.
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« Reply #4733 on: August 30, 2015, 07:01:44 pm »

Theoretical nation-wide jungle primary held today:



Hillary Clinton 28% 450 EV
Bernie Sanders 16% 57 EV
Donald Trump 11% 21 EV
Ben Carson 5% 0 EV
Jeb Bush 5% 10 EV
Marco Rubio 3% 0 EV
Ted Cruz 3% 0 EV
Scott Walker 3% 0 EV
Carly Fiorina 3% 0 EV
John Kasich 2% 0 EV
All others<2%
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« Reply #4734 on: August 30, 2015, 07:11:10 pm »

Theoretical nation-wide jungle primary held today:



Hillary Clinton 28% 450 EV
Bernie Sanders 16% 57 EV
Donald Trump 11% 21 EV
Ben Carson 5% 0 EV
Jeb Bush 5% 10 EV
Marco Rubio 3% 0 EV
Ted Cruz 3% 0 EV
Scott Walker 3% 0 EV
Carly Fiorina 3% 0 EV
John Kasich 2% 0 EV
All others<2%

Dems only get 44% of PV?
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« Reply #4735 on: August 30, 2015, 08:05:12 pm »
« Edited: August 31, 2015, 12:54:42 am by Clash »



√ President Stephen Harper (R-TX) - 299 EV
Senator Justin Trudeau (D-CA) - 176 EV
Congressman Thomas Mulcair (Progressive -CA) - 63 EV
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« Reply #4736 on: August 30, 2015, 11:07:55 pm »
« Edited: August 30, 2015, 11:10:51 pm by Maxwell »

The Magic Trump Through History!

2000 - Gore Edges Bush



Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 44.8%, 285 EV's
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 42.3%, 253 EV's
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Jesse Ventura (R-MN) - 10.8%, 0 EV's

2012 - President Romney faces Primary Challenger*
President John McCain died on December 15th, 2009, and Vice President Mitt Romney moved to become President. He was challenged in the primary by former Reform Party nominee Donald Trump. President Willard Mitt Romney beat Trump in the surprisingly competitive primary, and beat Illinois Senator Barack Obama by a close margin.



President Willard Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 62.5%
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) - 33.8%

2016 - Trump edges Romney successor for Republican nod



Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) - 55.3%
Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 34.5%
Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 6.2%


2016 - Senator Patrick easily beats Trump



Senator Deval Patrick (D-MA)/Former Commerce Secretary Elizabeth Warren (D-OK) - 55.2%, 363 EV's
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 43.4%, 175 EV's
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« Reply #4737 on: August 31, 2015, 12:23:25 am »

2020


269 - 269

Four Faithless Electors of New Mexico>Democratic

Gov. Evan Bayh(D-IN)/Mayor Bill DeBlasio(D-NY)
Gov. Tim Pawlenty(R-MN)/Sen. Ken Cucinelli(R-VA)

President: Tim Pawlenty(R-MN)
Vice President: Ken Cucinelli(R-VA)

Secretary of State: Richard Lugar(R-IN)
     National Security Advisor: Chuck Hagel(R-NE)
Secretary of the Treasury: Michael Bloomberg(R-NY)
     Chairman of the Federal Reserve: Robert Zoellick(R-IL)
Attorney General: Chris Christie(R-NJ)
Secretary of Agriculture: Gary Locke(D-WA)
Secretary of the Interior: Larry Pressler(I-SD)
Secretary of Commerce: Robert Kimmitt(D-MA)
Secretary of Labor:
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Benjamin Carson(R-MD)

Secretary of Transportation: Michael Powell(R-VA)
Secretary of Homeland Security: John Bolton(R-MD)
U. N. Ambassador: John Huntsman, Jr.(R-UT)

Senate Majority Leader: John Thune(R-ND)
Senate Majority Whip: Lisa Murkowski(R-AK)

Chairperson of the Senate Republican Conference: Kelly Ayotte(R-NH)
Vice-Chairperson of the Senate Republican Conference: Tom Cotton(R-AR)

Senate Minority Leader: Dick Durbin(D-IL)
Senate Minority Whip: Claire McCaskill(D-MO)

Chairperson of the Senate Democratic Conference: Charles Schumer(D-NY)
Vice-Chairperson of the Senate Democratic Conference: Ron Wyden(D-OR)

Speaker of the House: Cathy McMorris Rodgers(R-OR)
House Majority Leader: Fiorello LoBiondo(R-NJ)
Chairperson of the House Republican Conference: Paul Ryan(R-WI)/Devin Nunes(R-CA)
House Majority Whip: Erik Paulsen(R-MN)

House Minority Leader: Chris Van Hollen(D-MD)
Chairpersons of the House Democratic Conference: Nikki Tsongas(D-MA)/Keith Ellison(D-MN)
House Minority Whip: Jared Polis(D-CO)
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« Reply #4738 on: August 31, 2015, 12:28:17 pm »

Theoretical nation-wide jungle primary held today:



Hillary Clinton 28% 450 EV
Bernie Sanders 16% 57 EV
Donald Trump 11% 21 EV
Ben Carson 5% 0 EV
Jeb Bush 5% 10 EV
Marco Rubio 3% 0 EV
Ted Cruz 3% 0 EV
Scott Walker 3% 0 EV
Carly Fiorina 3% 0 EV
John Kasich 2% 0 EV
All others<2%

Dems only get 44% of PV?

Oh, whoops. They were supposed to get 49%, but I think I included Biden when calculating individual percentages, and then didn't include him in the final count, since theoretically he wouldn't be on any ballots if we had an election today.
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« Reply #4739 on: August 31, 2015, 01:55:14 pm »

Some of you may have read that having sex with a horse is legal in more states than SSM. Well, here's a map of the legality:



Blue-SWH
Red-SSM
Green-Both
Gray-Neither

I did this in 2013. Seeing it again, I'll update it to at the time just before Ogbergfell v Hobbs.:



Blue-SWH
Red-SSM
Green-Both
Gray-Neither
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« Reply #4740 on: August 31, 2015, 04:37:26 pm »

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« Reply #4741 on: August 31, 2015, 04:56:58 pm »


How did you get Puerto Rico on there?
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« Reply #4742 on: August 31, 2015, 04:58:01 pm »

2000

Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX): 354 EVs (52% PV)
Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 184 EVs (46% PV)

After narrowly defeating George W. Bush in the South Carolina primary, John McCain's campaign for the Republican presidential nomination was on a roll.  He quickly began gaining ground in the remaining contests, defeating or running close behind Bush in several states.  By Super Tuesday, McCain had taken the lead in national polls and won most of that day's contests.  After several more weeks of duking it out, Bush withdrew from the race, making McCain the party's presumptive nominee.  In an attempt to make peace with Bush supporters and solidify the conservative base, McCain offered Bush the vice-presidential slot, which the Texas governor quickly accepted.  

In the general election, the McCain/Bush ticket faced Vice President Al Gore and Senator Joe Lieberman.  Suddenly, an expectedly close race between Bush and Gore transformed into one soon favored the GOP.  Many moderates who had deserted the GOP to support Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996 saw McCain as an acceptable candidate.  McCain played this to his advantage, touting himself in TV ads as "a different kind of Republican."  In the debates, Gore cratered as he made several missteps, including sighing during an answer by Senator McCain and invading his personal space.  Many swing voters who were already suspicious of Gore quickly expressed their disapproval in the polls.  On Election Day, Senator McCain and Governor Bush won decisively, improving vastly the GOP's previous numbers with moderates, women, minorities, and even liberals.  They narrowly took Gore's home state of Tennessee and ran strong in socially conservative coal-mining regions which previously had been the stronghold of New Deal Democrats.  The inroads that McCain made prevented Gore from breaking even 60% in any state.  The Clinton Coalition appeared to be on the verge of collapse.

TO BE CONTINUED
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« Reply #4743 on: August 31, 2015, 09:37:19 pm »

1792: Washington Retires

Vice President John Adams of Massachusetts [Federalist]   79 Electoral Votes
Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson of Virginia [Republican]   56 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #4744 on: August 31, 2015, 09:51:42 pm »

Giuliani/Thompson: 309 (51.0%)
Gore/Lieberman: 229 (47.7%)
Other: 0 (1.3%)

2008 Republican Primary: Giuliani vs. Brownback
Rudy Giuliani: 56.6%
Sam Brownback: 42.0%
Other: 1.4%


Hillary Clinton: 51.0%
Howard Dean: 45.0%
John Edwards: 2.9%
Other: 1.1%

Clinton/Dean: 374 (54.0%)
Giuliani/Thompson: 164 (44.7%)
Other: 0 (1.3%)

Clinton/Dean: 337 (52.9%)
Romney/Huckabee: 201 (45.3%)
Other: 0 (1.8%)
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« Reply #4745 on: September 05, 2015, 09:18:34 pm »

1912:



Fmr. President Teddy Roosevelt (R - NY)/Fmr. Congressman Frank Lowden (R - IL): 337 EVs, 56.7% PV
Governor Woodrow Wilson (D - NJ)/Governor Thomas Marshall (D - IN): 194 EVs, 38.7% PV
Eugene V. Debs (S - IN)/Emil Seidel (S - WI): 0 EVs, 4.5% PV

1916:



President Teddy Roosevelt (R - NY)/Vice President Frank Lowden (R - IL): 399 EVs, 61.0% PV
Fmr. Governor Thomas Marshall (D - IN)/Fmr. Governor Judson Harmon (D - OH): 132 EVs, 38.1% PV

1920:

Vice President Frank Lowden (R - IL)/Senator William F. Borah (R - ID): 274/273 EVs (2 Faithless Electors in Oregon for Lowden, 1 for Borah): 52.2% PV
Governor Homer S. Cummings (D - CT)/Governor James M. Cox (D - OH): 257/258 EVs, 46.4% PV
Others: 0 EVs, 1.4% PV

1924:



President William Borah (R - ID)/Vice President Leonard Wood (R - NH): 276 EVs, 48.9% PV
Fmr. President William Howard Taft (D - OH)/Senator Oscar Underwood (D - AL): 50.3% PV
Others: 0 EVs, 0.8% PV

1928:



Fmr. Governor John Davis (D - WV)/Governor Al Smith (D - NY): 386 EVs, 55.9% PV
Fmr. Senator Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (R - WI)/Secretary of Labor Herbert Hoover (R - IA): 143 EVs, 40% PV
Emil Seidel (S - WI)/Norman Thomas (S - NY): 2 EVs, 4.0% PV

1932:



President John Davis (D - WV)/Vice President Al Smith (D - NY): 470 EVs, 62.7% PV
Fmr. Secretary of Labor Herbert Hoover (R - IA)/ Congressman Frank Knox (R - IL): 30.9%
Congressman Henry Wallace (OR - IA)/Norman Thomas (OR - NY): 19 EVs, 6% PV

1936:



Governor Pat McCarran (D - NV)/Governor James F. Byrnes (D - SC): 456 EVs, 59.3% PV
House Minority Leader Arthur Vandenburg (R - MI)/Congressman Harold Stassen (R - MN): 75 EVs, 40.5% PV
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« Reply #4746 on: September 06, 2015, 01:50:37 pm »
« Edited: September 06, 2015, 03:35:51 pm by bagelman »



George W. Bush over John Kerry



Hillary Clinton over John McCain



Mitt Romney defeats Hillary Clinton 285-253




Mitt Romney (inc) 311 EV
Bernie Sanders 224 EV
Michelle Bachmann 3 EV

The third party Michelle Bachmann, running under the "tea party", allowed Sanders to win Minnesota through vote splitting. Bachmann's best performance was in South Dakota, winning the state by a very slim margin. Elderly voters in Florida expressed their dislike with Romney's social security reforms and the poor union state of West Virginia went for Sanders. However, Romney was still fairly popular with the majority of the electorate.




Mitt Romney's popularity did not last into his second term after a stock market collapse reminiscent of 2007-8 occurred in 2018. By 2020, most expected the Democrats to take back the White House. The '20 GOP primaries pitted Vice President Paul Ryan vs. Ohio Governor John Kasich. Kasich won and in doing so was able to distance himself from the Romney administration. Seen as a moderate, he was pitted against Martin O'Mally.

Election night is over and the results have come down to Florida, which is still going through automatic recounts and is too close to call. 
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« Reply #4747 on: September 08, 2015, 06:39:57 am »

These maps are based on http://alternatehistory.net/discussion/showpost.php?p=5077736&postcount=189 this scenario. by Ephraim Ben Raphael on AH.com and covered by RvBOMally.

Vice President Richard "Dick" Cheney is one of over 4000 to die on 9/11.



√ President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) 331 EV

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) / Ret. Gen. Wesley Clark (D-AR) 207 EV

With much larger scale wars than our world, resentment agains the War on Terror escalates slower but steeper. The Democrats don't have their 2006 wave, but they do have a big wave in 2008:



√ Sen. Hillary R Clinton (D-NY) / Sen. Barack H Obama (D-IL) 397 EV

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) / Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) 141 EV

Obama's run for president ended in March when he endorsed Sen. Clinton, who chose him as her running mate.

The Democrats gain control on both houses of congress in 2008 (after coming close in 2006) and retain control of the senate in 2010 despite tea party opposition. The Tea Party is less inclined to attack President Clinton relentlessly, instead targeting Vice President Obama (Clinton's attack dog) and the democratic congressional leaders.


President Hillary Clinton dies on the 9/11/11 terrorist attacks on Washington D.C. The attacks also claim the lives of George W. Bush and John Kerry, along with George HW Bush and other significant attendees.

Barack H. Obama assumes the presidency. He runs for a full term.


Republican primaries, 2012:



√ Businessman Edward Butler (NJ)

Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA)

Sen. Rick Santorum (PA)

Gov. Rick Perry (TX)

Rep. Ron Paul (TX) (challenged Butler on his pro-war xenophobic stance, but won no primaries other than a territory)

Edward Butler is an objectivist, running with the backing of the Tea Party faction of the GOP and his powerful charisma. The establishment vote was divided between Romney, who gaffed and flip-flopped his way to defeat, and Santorum representing the classical SoCon vote. Perry put up a much better fight than OTL, but endorsed Butler.

President Obama is the favorite at the start of the race, but Butler, with his blend of neoconservatism and libertarianism, is able to incite anger among the base especially regarding the number 1 issue on the minds of voters: islamic terror.

While there are some right-wing extremists who accuse Obama of being born in Kenya, and thus is ineligible to be President, an even worse theory emerges that claims Obama orchestrated the 9/11/11 attacks to assassinate President Clinton. This theory is stupid but spreads among a few far-right circles. Fortunately this theory is outlandish enough not to be brought up in serious discussion, but GOP candidate Butler does accuse Obama of "not doing enough" to avenge the death of Clinton, especially by "cowardly refuses to name who is responsible: Radical Islamic Terrorism".

Overall, while he was ahead for most of the summer and early fall, Obama was well behind in the polls by October thanks to Butler's zeal, forcing in to campaign with vigor just to stay alive and force a tossup election.



√ Businessman Edward Butler (R-NJ) / Businessman Herman Cain (R-GA) 272 EV

President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) 265 EV

Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) / Fmr. President Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1 EV, faithless elector from Delaware

The results of the election were not decided for weeks, thanks to constant recounts in Ohio, Iowa, Virginia, and Florida. Obama needed to win all these states to win, and won all but Ohio.

Obama was alleged to be very depressed and tense when his lame duck period began. Michelle Obama, in her memoirs, recounted that "Barack saw something in Mr. Butler that even our most loyal supporters didn't see. He had that aura about him, an aura that made personable people like by husband uneasy."

Newly elected Vice President Herman Cain lasted even less than his President, resigning after Butler's decision to...you might want to read the scenario above to know more.
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« Reply #4748 on: September 08, 2015, 09:59:14 am »

2016:

Compared to 1864



√ Revolutionary leader Jerry Brown (D-CA) / Fmr. President Barack H Obama (D-IL) 425 EV

Ron Paul (R-TX) / Rand Paul (R-KY) 8 EV

Unallocated, under military occupation, or in the process of seceding via the Treaty of Omaha and the Treaty of Denver 105 EV not given to any candidate

2020:

Compared to 1820



√ Vice President Barack H Obama (D-IL) / Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) 490 EV

Fmr. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Ret. Neurosurgeon Ben Carson (R-MD) 0 EV

Rand Paul (R-KY) / John Washington (I-TX) 1 EV (Faithless elector, KY)

2024:

Compared to 1984 or '88



√ President Barack H Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Martin Heinrich (D-NM) 534 EV

Rep. Robert Painter (P-PA) / Mayor Elina Lucero (P-NY) 4 EV

Rand Paul (L-KY) / Julie Lund (L-GA) 0 EV

George P. Bush (R-TX) / Chris Long (R-NY) 0 EV

Fun fact: Vice President Heinrich becomes the first incumbent VP to be re-elected since 1996.

2028:

The Democratic party, ruling the country as a dominant party state since the end of the civil war, split themselves over establishment center-left candidate Martin Heinrich, having moved further to the left than Obama during his time in office, and "change" candidate Yvette Smith who finally provides a voice to the orphaned center-right vote.

The Progressive Party splits the left and center left vote, allowing Smith to win with support from the center and right.



√ Gov. Yvette Smith (D-MO) / Sen. Kate Jenkins (D-TX)

Vice President Martin Heinrich (D-NM) / Gov. Alice Gonzalez (D-FL)

Rep. Chelsea B. Dunn (P-CA) / Rep. Robert Painter (P-PA)

As of January 20th, 2029, at the end of his career, President Obama has served as Vice President for 6 years, 8 months, and 22 days, and President for 9 years, 4 months, and 9 days.

2032:

The Democratic party reunifies under the center-right President Smith, but the leftist Progressive party is more powerful than ever...



√ President Yvette Smith (D-MO) / Vice President Kate Jenkins (D-TX)

Sen. Lucas Belton (P-IL) / Sen. Gerry Michaels (P-RI)

Lucas Belton is the first transgender candidate, a man originally born in the body of a woman. President Smith attacks Belton for being a carpetbagger, moving from the President's home state to neighboring Illinois to run for senator against an unpopular incumbent. She also attacks him for not getting much done in the senate. Senator Belton is able to generate excitement as a herald for the end of one party rule but is unable to defeat a reasonably popular President Smith.

2036:



√ Senate Maj. Leader Paul Canon (P-FL) / Gov. Robert Painter (P-PA)

Vice President Kate Jenkins (D-TX) / Sec. of Interior Joyce Cantu (D-WV)

Finally, the progressive party captures the white house. VP Jenkins proves to be a less effective campaigner than President Smith, making stupid and occasionally personally offensive gaffes. While she is able to offer detailed answers to questions, and chooses experienced secretary Joyce Cantu as her running mate, Sen. Canon is able to provide even more innovative solutions while railing against corruption, greed, and lack of action in flood stricken states like his own.
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√ Kasich/Rubio: 342 (52.4%)
Sanders/Klobuchar: 196 (45.6%)
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