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« Reply #4825 on: October 31, 2015, 01:56:26 am »

2044 Presidential Election:


Governor Yolanda Carbone (R - NJ)/Congressman Lucas Schweikert (R - UT): High 290's - Low 300's EVs, 53% PV
Vice President Marcus Stockman (D - MS)/Honolulu Mayor Betsy Chang (D - HI): Low 240's - High 230's EVs, 45% PV

Although President Carlos Perez (D - TX) barely survived re-election, his second term proved to be even more disastrous. Perez's chief piece of legislation, the US-Latin American Free Trade Act, has only led to the economic recession worsening, particularly in the Midwest. Unemployment is at 10% nationally, and the Dow has plunged from 40,000 to 33,500 in the span of three months. The election was originally a tossup due to the high amount of Hispanics in the Southwest and parts of the Southeast, but the worsening economy and the rise of crime pouring into the big cities from suburbs tipped the scales to Carbone's favor. Carbone, the popular Governor of New Jersey, avoided major gaffes and successfully attracted typically apathetic voters with her charisma and her record as NJ Governor. Stockman began strong, particularly among fellow African-Americans, but the general anti-Perez mood of the nation and a few gaffes (particularly about Governor Elton Luntz (R-DE) being an "Uncle Tom" and the dismissal of the EPA's mishandling of a chemical transfer leading to several deals in central Oregon) helped ensure a Carbone victory. Texas and Connecticut are too close to call, and both states have initiated a recount. Although Carbone has already won nationally, she holds a tiny lead in both states.
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« Reply #4826 on: November 02, 2015, 09:29:51 am »

I may expand this into a timeline:
1980

Rep. John Anderson (R-IL)/Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 473 EVs, 56% PV
Pres. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 65 EVs, 42% PV

1984

Pres. John Anderson (R-IL)/Vice Pres. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 529 EVs, 61% PV
Fmr. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Rep. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): 9 EVs, 38% PV

1988
(Same as RL)

Fmr Rep. George HW Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN): 426 EVs, 53% PV
Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 111 EVs, 46% PV
Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 1 EV

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« Reply #4827 on: November 08, 2015, 11:49:56 pm »

2016 - The Impossible Donald Trump

After his amazing victory in the state in New Hampshire over establishment favorite Marco Rubio (Iowa was the only state won by Bobby Jindal), Trump sweeped 48 other states to an amazing victory. Trump, facing a rageful establishment, picked Nikki Haley as his VP, soothing their concers and the concerns of the Tea Party. Jeb Bush, not satisified, and angry he had been so thoroughly emasculated, runs third party bid with bitter elderly man Alan Simpson. Needless to say, that bid goes nowhere. Hillary Clinton wins every state against Bernie Sanders, including New Hampshire in a particularly bitter contest (with Clinton winning the state by some 500 votes). Sanders gives a less than enthusiastic endorsement, and progressive commentators begin criticizing Clinton for "mafia tactics". This hurts her with the left, which Trump jumps immediately in front of, claiming he'll be "so good at getting money out of politics, that you would wish money were back in politics, but not really". Trump, additionially, frames Clinton's running mate correctly as an alcoholic mess, which drags Clinton down. Even more shocking, Bush's bid, while only receiving 3% of the vote, receives 10% of the hispanic vote, essentially sinking Clinton's bid for the White House, ironically helping the man Bush's bid was intended to hurt. Trump wins with historic margins among whites.



Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 47.7%, 286 EV's
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Terry McAuliffe (D-VA) - 47.6%, 252 EV's
Former Governor Jeb Bush (I-FL)/Former Senator Alan Simpson (I-WY) - 3.4%, 0 EV's

2020 - The Impossible Donald Trump Pt. 2

The Democratic grassroots are getting increasingly angry with the Democratic establishment. Trump manages to pass historic immigration reform, which builds a giant wall, restricts legal immigration, raises H1B wages, and cracks down on corporations. Trump also massively expands the military, and takes the Democrats thunder on expanding roads and bridges. Trump also repeals Obamacare, but replaces it with single payer. Trump gets a lot done in his Presidency, but not as much as he expected. He pouts that he won't run again unless he gets the Vice President he wants, trashing Vice President Haley as a "bimbo". Trump gets what he wants in the 2018 mid-terms, when Sam Clovis wins the Governorship. Of course this at the cost of all of the congressionial seats of Utah, some seats in Arizona, and some more seats in Texas as a result of his immigration move, but he takes it.

Democrats, rebuking establishment candidate and general non-entity Gary Peters, they nominate Keith Ellison, a black muslim who endorsed Bernie Sanders. Ellison, in an attempt to not allienate moderates, picks Former Governor Jon Huntsman as his VP. This angers the grassroots, who threaten not to vote en masse. As usual, they do vote, but it is too late as Trump's truly sophisticated machine causes YUUUUUUGE turnout. The electorate continues to get more and more isolated, but Trump wins historic margins with whites and a Surprising 23% of African Americans, more than surpassing his meager 12% with Hispanics.



President Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Sam Clovis (R-IA) - 52.1%, 295 EV's

Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN)/Former Governor Jon Huntsman (D-UT) - 45.6%, 245 EV's
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« Reply #4828 on: November 09, 2015, 12:28:23 am »

Brilliant!
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« Reply #4829 on: November 09, 2015, 02:34:53 am »


Wait, what did Trump do to literally piss off ALL of Utah?
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« Reply #4830 on: November 09, 2015, 03:01:36 am »


Wait, what did Trump do to literally piss off ALL of Utah?

Mormons hate Trump's immigration policy and his attitude. This caused Utah to only vote for Trump in 2016 by a margin of 52-38 (this was Bush's best performing state, at a solid 8% of the vote). Trump only managed to enrage Utah voters more through his antics and his policies. Every single Utah congressionial seat, in response to the Trump administration, was won by a Democrat in 2018 because of Trump's immigration reform package. In the 2020 election, slightly thanks to the Trump wave, Weasel-in-chief Jason Chaffetz managed to win back his seat, but the other seats remained Democratic.
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« Reply #4831 on: November 09, 2015, 08:56:13 pm »

2000

Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 48%; 271 Electoral Votes
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (R-WY): 48%; 267 Electoral Votes

2004

President Al Gore (D-TN) / Vice President Joe Lieberman (D-CT): 51%; 286 Electoral Votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC): 48%; 252 Electoral Votes

2008

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN): 53%; 365 Electoral Votes
Senator John Kerry (D-MA) / Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA): 46%; 173 Electoral Votes

2012

President Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Vice President Fred Thompson (R-TN): 51%; 332 Electoral Votes
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) / Representative Martin Heinrich (D-NM): 47%; 206 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #4832 on: November 10, 2015, 11:23:29 pm »


Former Senator James Webb (R-VA)/Governor John Kasich (R-OH) 281 electoral votes
Vice President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Governor Jon Huntsman (D-UT) 257 electoral votes
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« Reply #4833 on: November 11, 2015, 08:37:07 am »


Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR): 337 EVs (52% PV)
Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 201 EVs (45% PV)
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« Reply #4834 on: November 11, 2015, 01:56:21 pm »

The Favorite Sons


✓ Julian Castro (D-TX)/Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Chris Christie (R-NJ)/Mike Pence (R-IN)
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« Reply #4835 on: November 11, 2015, 03:07:26 pm »



✓ (R-MI) / (R-UT) 301

(D-TX) / (D-PA) 231

What is this world like? Is it an alternative history, an alternative present, or the future? Can you tell what I based it on?

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« Reply #4836 on: November 11, 2015, 04:32:44 pm »
« Edited: November 11, 2015, 04:42:13 pm by 1184AZ »



Governor  Brian Mulroney from Pennsylvania (R)-535 EV 60%
Former Senator John Turner from New York (D)-3EV 25%
Ed Broadbent Rep from Massachusetts Progressive-15%

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1988


President  Brian Mulroney from Pennsylvania (R)-418EV 53%
Former Senator John Turner from New York (D)-67EV 27%
Ed Broadbent Rep from Massachusetts Progressive-47EV 20%   


1993


Rep from New York-Jean Chretien (D)-375 EV
Rep from Alabama  Lucien Bouchard - Bloc South 86 EV
North Dakota Rep-Preston Manning- Reform49 Ev
Hawaii Senator Audrey McLaughlin, Progressive 22 EV
Washington Governor Kim Campbell (R) 6EV 

1997


President Jean Chretien-New York (D)-360 EV
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 76 EV
North Dakota Rep-Preston Manning- Reform 64 Ev
Vermont Senator Alexa McDonough Progressive 25 EV
NH Senator Jean Charest (R) 13 EV 
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« Reply #4837 on: November 11, 2015, 04:41:21 pm »
« Edited: November 11, 2015, 04:49:43 pm by 1184AZ »

2000






President Jean Chretien-New York (D)-362 EV
Idaho Governor Stockwell Day    - Reform 75Ev
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 62 Ev
Vermont Senator Alexa McDonough Progressive 32  EV
Former President Joe Clark from Texas  (R)   7 EV  



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« Reply #4838 on: November 11, 2015, 05:10:16 pm »

2000




President Jean Chretien-New York (D)-362 EV
Idaho Governor Stockwell Day    - Reform 75Ev
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 62 Ev
Vermont Senator Alexa McDonough Progressive 32  EV
Former President Joe Clark from Texas  (R)   7 EV  


Interesting idea. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest.
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« Reply #4839 on: November 11, 2015, 07:36:24 pm »

2004


VIce President (D) Paul Martin-Maryland 252 EV
Stephen Harper Representative for Texas  Conservative- 134 EV
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 92 EV
Jack Layton NYC Mayor Progressive-60 EV



2008 Election

Stephen Harper Representative for Texas  Conservative- 218 EV
President- Maryland (D) Paul Martin 176 EV
Jack Layton NYC Mayor Progressive-74 EV
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 70 EV
 
2012


President Stephen Harper Texas  Conservative- 320 EV
Michael Ignatieff -NYC Businessman 38 EV
Jack Layton NYC Mayor Progressive-165 EV
Rep from Texas Gilles Duceppe - Bloc South 15 EV
 
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« Reply #4840 on: November 11, 2015, 08:40:21 pm »
« Edited: November 28, 2016, 06:18:35 pm by GPORTER »

Different 1964 election and onward John Kennedy (1961-1963)
Lyndon Johnson (1963-1965)
Robert Kennedy (1965-1969)
Barry Goldwater (1969-1973)
Ted Kennedy (1973 - present) 1972 election Senator Ted Kennedy versus President Barry Goldwater
Barry Goldwater: 244 Ted Kennedy: 294 270 to win
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« Reply #4841 on: November 13, 2015, 12:28:39 pm »

2016 President

Fmr. Sen Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD): 446 EVs, 57% PV
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ): 92 EVs, 40% PV

2016 Senate

Democratic: 55 seats (+8)
Republican: 45 seats (-8)

2016 Governor

Republican: 29 states (-2)
Democratic: 21 states (+1)

(This is assuming Edwards wins the Louisiana runoff.)
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« Reply #4842 on: November 15, 2015, 10:17:19 pm »

ELECTION SERIES

2000 - Gore crushes Bush
Drunk driving, the disastrous pick of J.C. Watts, and Gore's steady defense of the Clinton economy caused Gore to win solidly against his challenger.



Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Bob Graham (D-FL) - 52.3%, 392 EV's

Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Congressman J.C. Watts (R-OK) - 44.9%, 146 EV's

2004 - Is the Republican Party in a rut?

John McCain was viewed as the Republican Party's top candidate, but the catching of Osama Bin Laden and the relatively stable economy saves Al Gore despite legendary losses in 2002 midterms.



President Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice President Bob Graham (D-FL) - 50.5%, 322 EV's
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Governor Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 48.2%, 216 EV's

2008 - Nope, the Republican Party is fine

The aging Vice President Graham narrowly edged Senator John Edwards for the Democratic nomination, as he faces very moderate Republican Senator Jim Webb. Webb, not an economic policy mind, picks Willard Mitt Romney, a fellow moderate with some economic conservative appeal, to be a VP.



Senator Jim Webb (R-VA)/Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 53.5%, 382 EV's

Vice President Bob Graham (D-FL)/Congressman Barack Obama (D-IL) - 44.9%, 156 EV's

2012 Election - Can't Ebb the Webb

Despite slow recovery, Webb convinces America to give him a second term thanks to an increasingly left-wing Democratic Party (forcing Senator Hillary Clinton to the left) as the Republican Party remains strongly in the center. Polls predict the first very close election in decades, but President Webb's margin of victory surprises most pundits, including a surprising pick-up of the House of Representatives.



President Jim Webb (R-VA)/Vice President Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 51.6%, 321 EV's

Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Congressman Brad Miller (D-NC) - 47.2%, 217 EV's

2016 - Romney crushes Sanders

A contentious Democratic nominating process allows for Bernie Sanders to edge his way into becoming the nominee. Many Democrats view his disdain for foreign policy and his radical economic policies as dangerous to their chances. Even then - enthusiasm for Republicans is low. Until the debates, Bernie is thought to be surging, as his crowd sizes dwarf that of VP Romney, who won the GOP nomination in a low key, boring process. During the first debate, however, VP Romney offered an intense defense of the Webb administration and harsh critique of Sanders. Sanders gave a poor defense. Three weak performances combined with increasing calls to stay with Republican leadership, Romney wins an unexpected landslide, carrying with him a Republican house and huge gains in the Senate.



Vice President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Scott Walker (R-WI) - 57.2%, 403 EV's
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Keith Ellison (D-MN) - 40.9%, 135 EV's
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« Reply #4843 on: November 18, 2015, 08:06:10 am »
« Edited: November 18, 2015, 08:07:52 am by Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite »


Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR): 452 EVs (55% PV)
Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD): 86 EVs (42% PV)
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« Reply #4844 on: November 22, 2015, 11:09:39 am »



Arnaldo Forlani, Christian Democracy, 29,6 Blue
Achille Occhetto, Democratic Party of Lefy, 16,1 Red
Bettino Craxi, Socialist Party, 13,6 Yellow
Umberto Bossi, Northern League, 8,6 Green
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« Reply #4845 on: November 22, 2015, 01:39:35 pm »

Some maps based on these maps



400+



319-206, 6 undergoing recount



312-216, 3 undergoing recount



369-162



366-159, 6 undergoing recount



305-201, 15 undergoing recount




345-186



339-192
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« Reply #4846 on: November 25, 2015, 08:38:18 pm »
« Edited: November 25, 2015, 08:40:10 pm by bagelman »



328-210

Closest states: NV and MA were very close, and VT was originally considered a Dem state due to inaccurate polling.

The Democrat in this race is a big gov type that wants to increase regulation and the Republican is an economic libertarian type. Obviously internal state dynamics are very different to allow MI to vote to the right of ID. Based on this map.
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« Reply #4847 on: November 26, 2015, 07:07:00 am »




Business man/ real estate mogul: Donald J Trump
County Sheriff: Joe Arpaio   



Former NY Senator and SOS: Hillary Clinton
Gov: Tim Kaine
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« Reply #4848 on: November 26, 2015, 12:05:00 pm »

I don't really see any Republican losing Kansas or Kentucky.




Republican: Warren Harding (Ohio)/Calvin Coolidge (Massachusetts) - 33.55%, 243 EVs
Republican: Richard Nixon (California)/Spiro Agnew (Maryland) - 33.75%, 239 EVs
Republican: Ronald Reagan (California)/George H.W. Bush (Texas) - 32.70%, 46 EVs


The only two states where anybody wins a majority are South Carolina and Mississippi, both won by Nixon. Reagan never breaks 40% in any of his states, and his best states are, ironically, South Carolina, Mississippi, and Texas. Harding breaks 40% in Massachusetts and Minnesota, and Nixon does very well in the South, usually with Reagan in second and Harding in a distant third.
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« Reply #4849 on: November 27, 2015, 04:03:04 pm »


Sen. Ron Paul (R-TX)
Fmr. VP. Dan Quayle (R-IN)
Fmr. Sec. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)


Sen. Ron Paul (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 289EV 48.5%
VP. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) 249EV 46.4%
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/CEO Donald Trump (I-NY) 0EV 5.1%
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