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« Reply #5525 on: October 20, 2016, 04:11:47 PM »

Feingold/O'Malley would be a decently strong ticket. If Perez replaced a retiring Senator Cardin, I margins a Feingold/Perez ticket would be very strong, if somewhat eastern based.
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« Reply #5526 on: October 20, 2016, 10:14:15 PM »

GOLDWATER'D IN 2016



Former State Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 55.7%, 473 EV's

Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) - 39.8%, 59 EV's
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Governor Bill Weld (L-MA) - 3.1%, 0 EV's
Former CIA Agent Evan McMullin (I-UT)/Various - 0.4%, 6 EV's
Others - 1.0%, 0 EV's

JOHNSON'D IN THE 2020 PRIMARIES

Iowa Caucus
51.3% - Governor Kate Brown (D-OR)
48.1% - President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
0.6% - Fmr. Governor Martin O'Malley (D-MD)

After this, the primary was a three way between Governor Kate Brown, the leftest of left-wing choice, Senator Cory Booker, the candidate of hope and change (and minority backing), and Senator Russ Feingold, the establishment (Huh) choice who formerly represented the progressive wing of the party. Feingold ended up getting a small plurality of delegates, and super-delegates swung the nomination his way, causing massive protests at the DNC. This allowed the comeback of Marco Rubio to lead by 10 points out the gate, and ended up allowing this:

NIXON'D IN 2020



Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) - 50.3%, 288 EV's
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)/Fmr. Governor Martin O'Malley (D-MD) - 48.2%, 250 EV's

I like this, but I think that you should switch Feingold and Brown's positions in the primaries. It would make way more sense, IMO, for Feingold to be the candidate of the left, and for an unsubstantial token politician like Brown to be the establishment candidate. Also, Feingold's really the only candidate I could even theoretically see running against Clinton in the primary and enough gaining traction to actually defeat her in Iowa. Lastly, I really don't think that O'Malley would have nearly enough political stock to be chosen as running mate; maybe Feingold chooses someone like Cortez Masto?

In this timeline my idea is that Feingold is supportive of Clinton administration actions that cause the Democrats to divide, while Kate Brown is strongly against Clinton on these issues.
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« Reply #5527 on: October 26, 2016, 02:44:45 PM »

✓ Barack Obama: 459 (45.6%)
Donald J. Trump: 57 (34.1%)
Mitt Romney: 22 (19.1%)
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« Reply #5528 on: October 26, 2016, 03:16:13 PM »

✓ Barack Obama: 459 (45.6%)
Donald J. Trump: 57 (34.1%)
Mitt Romney: 22 (19.1%)

Why is Nevada the same colour as Arizona and Kansas instead of Colorado and Virginia? If anything, Nevada and Iowa should trade places
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« Reply #5529 on: October 26, 2016, 07:57:07 PM »



The Democratic Party, a socially traditional, pro-welfare, anti-racism party against the socially liberal and economically libertarian American National Party. This map shows the safe or safe enough states in contrast to the competitive states during election season.

The states of this alt USA has evolved differently with Catholic farmers across the great plains, Utopian movements popular with turn of the century northwestern settlers, Boston being the protestant working city in which money is everything, and St. Louis socialists struggling against St. Paul capitalists. There's still a Dixie, and there are still eastern Europeans in Great Lakes area cities. There are also Eastern Europeans in Alaska, as the brutal Russian Tsar Alexander the Bloodthirsty would deport "disloyal" ethnic groups from Poland or the Baltics and deport them all the way to the other side of the Empire, a practice thankfully relatively short lived.

The two parties are pretty even with each other.



Results of the largest ANP landslide in history, back in 1972.
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« Reply #5530 on: October 30, 2016, 02:00:56 AM »

What the electoral map might have looked like had Perot never lost his lead in the polls.

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« Reply #5531 on: October 30, 2016, 02:00:34 PM »

Based on this, which is an improved version of a post I made here, which was inspired by someone here asking for a silly scenario in which Zinn goes up against Reagan '84 and Bush '88.


Hard Left Turn into a Wall

1968



[GOP] Richard Nixon (CA) 288 EV

[DEM] Robert Kennedy (NY) 173 EV

[AIP] George Wallace (AL) 77 EV

1972




[GOP] President Richard Nixon (CA) 377 EV

[DEM] Hubert Humphrey (MN) 161 EV

1976



[DEM] Henry Jackson (WA) 321 EV

[GOP] Bob Dole (KS) 217 EV

Scoop Jackson was nominated as a last minute compromise to prevent the toxic '68 AIP candidate George Wallace from winning the nomination. As part of this compromise, Robert Byrd, a former senator, was made Jackson's running mate. Dull Dole was expected to win on the coattails of the Nixon presidency, until the "Watergate Surprise" in which it was revealed Nixon interfered in the '72 election and the HHH campaign to win. Dole collapsed in the polls as a result, giving Jackson an unexpected decisive victory. Jackson died in January 1978, leaving Byrd in office...


1980



[GOP] Ronald Reagan (CA) 491 EV

[DEM] George McGovern (SD) 25 EV

[DEM] President Robert Byrd (WV) 22 EV


1984



[GOP] President Ronald Reagan (CA) 522 EV

[DEM] Howard Zinn (NY) 16 EV


[TDM] Geraldine Ferraro (NY) 0 EV

Staunch liberal Howard Zinn became the Democratic nominee, as the sacrificial lamb to be slaughtered by an adored President Reagan. Zinn became very popular with the Democratic base.

The original nominee for the True Democrat party was Ted Kennedy, but he was murdered by an anti-Catholic assassin from Northern Ireland.

1988



[GOP] George Bush (TX) 535 EV

[DEM] Howard Zinn (NY) 3 EV

[TDM] Lyndon LaRouche (VA) 0 EV

Howard Zinn ran again, at first doing better than '84, but then revealed himself to be a socialist. George Bush went ballistic and the whole country went into a red scare. By November, ads were running in Washington DC for Vice President Bush. The resulting landslide was bigger than 1936.

Why did the Democratic party bosses allow Zinn to run again? Many of them had jumped ship to the True Democrat party in '84, which before the assassination of Ted Kennedy was a serious outfit inspired by President Bryd's defiance of the liberal wing of the party. Establishment Democrats were scattered during Reagan's second term, some joining the GOP, some staying with the True Dems, and the few remaining in the main Democratic party approved of Zinn, viewing Bush as weaker than Reagan, Zinn as a principled Democrat and not the socialist he really was, and being too weak to stop his movement.

The "True Democrat" party was hijacked by LaRouche and his movement. LaRouche would run as the nominee for every election up to 2004.

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« Reply #5532 on: October 30, 2016, 02:01:06 PM »

1992



[GOP] President George Bush (TX) 387 EV


[REF] Ross Perot (TX) 138 EV

[DEM] Jesse Jackson (DC) 13 EV

1996



[REF] Ross Perot (TX) 305 EV

[GOP] John Danforth (MO) 233 EV

2000



[GOP] William Clinton (AR) 395 EV

[REF] President Ross Perot (TX) 121 EV

[DEM] Ralph Nader (CT) 22 EV

2004



[REF] Jerry Brown (CA) 274 EV

[GOP] President William Clinton (AR) 261 EV

[DEM] Ralph Nader (CT) 3 EV


2008




[REF] President Jerry Brown (CA) 298 EV

[GOP] George W. Bush (TX) 237 EV

[DEM] Dennis Kucinich (OH) 3 EV
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« Reply #5533 on: October 30, 2016, 04:21:13 PM »

What the electoral map might have looked like had Perot never lost his lead in the polls.


I just realized that North Dakota should be green. My mistake.
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« Reply #5534 on: October 30, 2016, 06:56:17 PM »

You know what there are more errors in my map than I thought so I just remade it

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« Reply #5535 on: November 01, 2016, 03:02:39 PM »

Defeat from the Jaws of Victory/Election Night Heartbreak:


All night, we think we have won.  We even think we will be OK once Arizona looks close, because, after winning Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and ME-02, a tie would be the worst-case scenario.  But, then Alaska stuns the world!
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« Reply #5536 on: November 01, 2016, 03:44:56 PM »

Bye Bye Billy

2000

Governor William Weld/Senator Orrin Hatch - 301
President Al Gore/Senator Russ Feingold - 237

2004

Governor Howard Dean/Senator Bob Graham - 289
President William Weld/Vice President Orrin Hatch - 249

2008

President Howard Dean/Vice President Bob Graham - 394
Former Vice President Orrin Hatch/Senator Elizabeth Dole - 144

2012

Vice President Bob Graham/Senator Hillary Clinton - 331
Governor Rick Perry/Senator Olympia Snowe - 207

2016

Governor Brian Sandoval/Senator Kelly Ayotte - 311
Vice President Hillary Clinton/Senator Tim Kaine - 227

2020

President Brian Sandoval/Vice President Kelly Ayotte - 272
Senator Russ Feingold/Former Secretary Julian Castro - 266
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« Reply #5537 on: November 02, 2016, 09:34:07 AM »

✓ Sen. John F. Kerry/Rep. Richard Gephardt: 284 (48.5%)
Pres. George W. Bush/Vice Pres. Richard Cheney: 254 (50.0%)

✓ Mayor Rudy Giuliani/Gov. Mike Huckabee: 402 (54.5%)
Pres. John F. Kerry/Vice Pres. Richard Gephardt: 136 (44.2%)

✓ Pres. Rudy Giuliani/Vice Pres. Mike Huckabee: 347 (52.5%)
Sen. Russell Feingold/Sen. Hillary Clinton: 191 (46.0%)
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« Reply #5538 on: November 02, 2016, 10:49:19 AM »

2000:


2004:

2008:

2012:
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« Reply #5539 on: November 02, 2016, 10:57:49 AM »

1980:

1984:

1988:

1992:

1996:
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« Reply #5540 on: November 02, 2016, 11:12:10 AM »

2000:

Vice President Al Gore/Senator Joseph Lieberman: 292 (48.4%)
Governor George W. Bush/Former Defence Secretary Dick Cheney: 246 (47.9%)

The Senate Seat vacated by Vice President Lieberman is filled by Ned Lamont in a special election.

2004:

President Al Gore/Vice President Joe Lieberman: 238 (47.7%)
Senator John McCain/Governor Craig Benson: 300 (51.4%)

2008:

Senator Barack Obama/Senator Joe Biden: 379 (54.5)
President John McCain/Vice President Craig Benson: 159 (43.6)
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« Reply #5541 on: November 05, 2016, 03:04:38 PM »

A hypothetical election between Libertarian and Authoritarian parties. Note: the tickets are placeholders and I didn't even attempt to do home-state/home-region effects.



Evan Bayh (A-IN)/Dean Heller (A-NV) 271 EVs
Justin Amash (L-MI)/Kirsten Gillibrand (L-NY) 267 EVs

Battleground Map:


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« Reply #5542 on: November 05, 2016, 10:16:42 PM »

A hypothetical election between Libertarian and Authoritarian parties. Note: the tickets are placeholders and I didn't even attempt to do home-state/home-region effects.



Evan Bayh (A-IN)/Dean Heller (A-NV) 271 EVs
Justin Amash (L-MI)/Kirsten Gillibrand (L-NY) 267 EVs

Battleground Map:




So, DC is solidly libertarian while Wyoming is solidly authoritarian? Eh, I don't know about that. 
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« Reply #5543 on: November 06, 2016, 06:06:34 PM »

A hypothetical election between Libertarian and Authoritarian parties. Note: the tickets are placeholders and I didn't even attempt to do home-state/home-region effects.



Evan Bayh (A-IN)/Dean Heller (A-NV) 271 EVs
Justin Amash (L-MI)/Kirsten Gillibrand (L-NY) 267 EVs

Battleground Map:




So, DC is solidly libertarian while Wyoming is solidly authoritarian? Eh, I don't know about that. 

Yeah, Wyoming seems like it would go libertarian. Actually, the Libertarian's base of support would probably be in the west, and the Authoritarians in the South. I could see a battleground map that looks more like this:


Libertarian: (yellow) 181
Authoritarian: (green) 199
Battleground: (blank) 153
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« Reply #5544 on: November 07, 2016, 06:24:10 PM »

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« Reply #5545 on: November 08, 2016, 02:31:11 PM »

Peebs: if the winner had won by 20?
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« Reply #5546 on: November 10, 2016, 09:20:12 AM »

If the winner won by 60% (Except for 1980, 1996 (both 55%), and 1992 (50%))
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« Reply #5547 on: November 10, 2016, 03:39:18 PM »

Hindsight is 20/20: What a perfect prediction map would've looked like



Confidence EV: 231-197
Tossup EV: 110
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« Reply #5548 on: November 10, 2016, 04:26:30 PM »

In the wake of the election:

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« Reply #5549 on: November 10, 2016, 05:56:48 PM »

Based on current results:

Clinton + Johnson vs. Trump + Others



(PA and FL are both 50.01% to 49.99%)

Trump + Johnson vs. Clinton + Others



(UT is 50.01% to 49.99%)
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