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« Reply #5675 on: December 28, 2016, 05:02:28 PM »

Heidi Heitkamp/Jim Hood(D) v. Ileana Ros-Lehtinehen/Olympia Snowe(R)
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« Reply #5676 on: December 29, 2016, 01:54:20 PM »

Democrats successfully force Republicans to own the Trump Presidency:



Trump/Pence 391 54%
Harris/Warren 147 44%
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« Reply #5677 on: December 29, 2016, 04:42:30 PM »

If the polls were right.
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« Reply #5678 on: December 29, 2016, 07:25:33 PM »

I'm pretty sure that even if the polls were right, Trump would still win Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, and Maine CD 2.
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« Reply #5679 on: December 30, 2016, 08:08:22 AM »

I'm pretty sure that even if the polls were right, Trump would still win Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, and Maine CD 2.

I'm also pretty sure he was up in Arizona by a tiny bit and also I saw him ahead by a point in Nevada on several polls the day before.
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« Reply #5680 on: December 30, 2016, 07:55:04 PM »

I'm pretty sure that even if the polls were right, Trump would still win Indiana, Iowa, Ohio, and Maine CD 2.

I'm also pretty sure he was up in Arizona by a tiny bit and also I saw him ahead by a point in Nevada on several polls the day before.

I was kinda talking about the popular vote. But I may make a more accurate one soon.
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« Reply #5681 on: December 31, 2016, 01:43:10 AM »
« Edited: December 31, 2016, 01:59:13 AM by bagelman »

If the polls were right- more accurate version based on Realclearpolitics



Yes, Trump actually flips a state here, and he only loses 272-266.
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« Reply #5682 on: December 31, 2016, 05:08:37 PM »

1992: Bush Calls it Quits

After a bitter primary fight with Pat Buchanan, Vice President Dan Quayle, Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole emerges as the Republican Nominee in 1992. Despite being able to separate himself from Bush, Clinton is able to run on a message of change and is elected by one of the biggest landslides in history.
Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 430 (53.8%)
Bob Dole/Jack Kemp: 108 (44.9%)

1996: The Kid Falls Short
Misreading his electoral victory, President Clinton overreaches, delivering Republicans control of Congress in 1995. Failing to moderate, Clinton faces Colin Powell, and loses in one of the closest elections in history.
Colin Powell/Tommy Thompson: 271 (49.2%)
Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 267 (49.1%)
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« Reply #5683 on: December 31, 2016, 06:43:31 PM »



Johnson 1964 vs. Reagan 1980 using raw vote totals. Using 1970's EVs, it comes out to 283-255 Reagan, who also wins the popular vote by 0.9%.
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« Reply #5684 on: December 31, 2016, 07:55:14 PM »

2000: The Revolt
Elected by a thin margin, President Powell adopts a middle-way approach to governing, by appealing to Democrats and Republicans. This move proves successful with the Democrats in Congress, but backfires with the Republicans and when Powell vetoes a tax cut bill the dam breaks and there is a revolt in the Republican Party, leading to a primary challenge from the right. Powell, vexed by a disgruntled Congress and his inability to pickup the conservative mantle bows out of the Republican primary. Thompson fails to unite a divided Republican Party and loses to Paul Wellstone in a landslide.

Paul Wellstone/Ann Richards: 428 (50.4%)
Tommy Thompson/Joe Scarborough: 110 (42.1%)
Pat Buchanan/Ezola Foster: 0 (6.7%)

2004: The Liberal Order
Running as an unabashed progressive, Wellstone governs as he ran. Aided in part by Democratic victories in Congress following the 2002 Midterms, Wellstone oversees the largest expansion of the Federal Government since the Great Society. Widely popular at the time of reelection he defeats Utah Governor Mitt Romney.

Paul Wellstone/Ann Richards: 451 (57.7%)
Mitt Romney/Haley Barbour: 86 (41.0%)

2008: Camelot Returns
The resignation of Vice President Richards after her cancer diagnosis elevates New York Senator John F. Kennedy, Jr. to the Vice Presidency. He runs and wins the Democratic nomination in 2008 and despite being criticized over his inexperience, the strong economy, Wellstone's popularity and the Kennedy legacy pushes him across the finish line, beating long-time favorite Senator John McCain.

John F. Kennedy, Jr/Mike Beebe: 275 (48.8%)
John McCain/Phil Graham: 263 (48.7%)

2012: The Populist Strikes Back
President Kennedy loses both Houses of Congress to a resurgent GOP in the midterms after a backlash to his policies and playboy perception. Dogged by whispers of affairs, as well as the public yearning for a change he loses reelection to Republican Bob Ehrlich who runs a populist campaign against Kennedy and Washington.

Bob Ehrlich/Tim Pawlenty: 380 (52.9%)
John F. Kennedy, Jr./Mike Beebe: 158 (45.2%)
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« Reply #5685 on: December 31, 2016, 08:17:57 PM »

Obama 2012 Total Vote vs. Clinton 2016 Total Vote



Clinton got 84 more votes in Maryland in 2016 than Obama did in 2012.
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« Reply #5686 on: January 01, 2017, 03:38:27 PM »



267-243 (28)

Random map of the Democrats winning borgie liberals and a broad minority collation vs. a nationalist R who supports English only nationwide who has the support of white English speakers rich and poor willing to vote R.
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« Reply #5687 on: January 01, 2017, 06:16:38 PM »


What things might look like in 2032 if the Atlas belief that the Sunbelt will become Democrat land and the Midwest becomes Republican turf.
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« Reply #5688 on: January 02, 2017, 12:30:43 AM »
« Edited: January 02, 2017, 12:40:20 AM by L.D. Smith »

1. Trump Evolution



#NeverTrump
All Trump, All the Time
Trump -> Clinton
Warmed up to 'Im

2. Clinton Evolution



I'm With Her
No Way
Clinton -> Trump
Doing as Bernie Says
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« Reply #5689 on: January 02, 2017, 06:13:36 AM »


What things might look like in 2032 if the Atlas belief that the Sunbelt will become Democrat land and the Midwest becomes Republican turf.

Why does NY only have 12 electoral votes?
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« Reply #5690 on: January 02, 2017, 06:21:09 AM »


What things might look like in 2032 if the Atlas belief that the Sunbelt will become Democrat land and the Midwest becomes Republican turf.

New York City is a seperate state in this scenario.

Why does NY only have 12 electoral votes?
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« Reply #5691 on: January 02, 2017, 08:00:53 AM »


What things might look like in 2032 if the Atlas belief that the Sunbelt will become Democrat land and the Midwest becomes Republican turf.

New York City is a seperate state in this scenario.

Why does NY only have 12 electoral votes?

Ah that makes sense. Does that referendum actually have a chance of passing?
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« Reply #5692 on: January 02, 2017, 12:05:16 PM »

Obama: 454 (57.1%)
Cheney: 84 (41.8%)
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« Reply #5693 on: January 02, 2017, 10:21:26 PM »
« Edited: January 03, 2017, 07:18:04 PM by Speaker Maxwell »

FROM CHUMP TO TRUMP - A BERNIE SANDERS TALE

1984 - Bush rides sympathy wave to landslide re-election



President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Howard Baker (R-TN) - 62.3%, 535 EV's
Reverend Jesse Jackson (D-IL)/Mayor Bernie Sanders (I-VT) - 35.4%, 3 EV's

1988 - Cuomo's the new Kennedy



Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 50.9%, 323 EV's
HUD Secretary Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) - 46.2%, 215 EV's


1992 - Cuomo wallops Kirkpatrick, despite weakening economy



President Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 45.3%, 409 EV's
Former UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick (R-OK)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 36.2%, 129 EV's
Businessman Donald Trump (I-NY)/Investor Wilbur Ross (I-NJ) - 14.2%, 0 EV's

1996 - Clinton edges Bush thanks to a good economy



Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 46.5%, 291 EV's
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 45.4%,  247 EV's
Scattered Others - 8.1%, 0 EV's

2000 - Maverick McCain defeats Embattled Clinton



Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor George Allen (R-VA) - 49.9%, 299 EV's
President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President John Kerry (D-MA) 47.8%, 239 EV's
Others - 2.9%, 0 EV's

2004 - Inspiring Edwards knocks out McCain in a Brawl



Senator John Edwards (D-NC)/Former Defense Secretary William Cohen (D-ME) - 48.7%, 275 EV's
President John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President George Allen (R-VA) - 48.9%, 263 EV's
Others - 2.4%, 0 EV's

2008 - The Republican Revolution



Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 55.2%, 387 EV's
President John Edwards (D-NC)/Vice President William Cohen (D-ME) - 42.5%, 151 EV's
Others - 2.3%, 0 EV's

2012 - Bush Remains Popular



President Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Vice President Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 52.1%, 326 EV's
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 46.0%, 212 EV's
Others - 1.9%, 0 EV's

2016 - Bernie's Back!



Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Governor Barack Obama (D-IL) - 47.6%, 303 EV's
Former Treasury Secretary W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor John Kasich (R-OH) - 46.3%, 235 EV's
Others - 6.1%, 0 EV's

2020 - FEEL THE BERN



President Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Vice President Barack Obama (D-IL) - 54.3%, 374 EV's
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)/Former Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 44.6%, 164 EV's
Others - 1.1%, 0 EV's
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« Reply #5694 on: January 02, 2017, 11:23:56 PM »





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« Reply #5695 on: January 02, 2017, 11:27:21 PM »

1848

Zachary Taylor and Millard Fillmore (Whig) 109 electors, 35% votes
Lewis Cass and William O. Butler (Democratic) 100 electors, 30% votes
Martin Van Buren and Charles F. Adams (Free Soil) 81 electors, 34% votes
Others (Various) 0 electors, 1% votes
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« Reply #5696 on: January 02, 2017, 11:36:43 PM »

as expected with this one, a clear cut Dem win

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« Reply #5697 on: January 02, 2017, 11:45:23 PM »

as is this one, but I did give the gOP DE and ME2 as sympathy

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« Reply #5698 on: January 03, 2017, 03:54:12 PM »


I started with the 2016 map and changed either state by a random amount from -3 to 3. How would it actually happen?
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« Reply #5699 on: January 04, 2017, 11:27:08 PM »



playing with RCP demographics calculator

the above map depicts a US where Democracy varies by state, with some states being dominated by political machines. The Southwest has the Republican "utopians" strongest in New Mexico, and the Democrats have New England and the Upper Midwest + northern plains + OR.

The south, lower midwest, and mountain regions of the country have the strongest democracy. Washington basically decides the election as the Republicans won the PV nationwide by nearly 5 points.
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