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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 09:29:34 PM »

Oh my. I thought he would fight for the nomination a bit longer.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 10:11:04 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 10:16:47 PM »

Looks like the Super Pac is once again going to help bring Perry back from the dead
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 10:20:48 PM »

Perry might as well drop out and endorse Cruz, Walker, or Paul.

If he's gonna endorse someone, I think Bush and Rubio are closer to be his final choice. Cruz is just way too extreme, even for Perry, and especially on immigration. Remember that according to Perry, people like Cruz and Trump "don't have a heart". Smiley

There is a 0% chance Perry endorses a Bush… he is last on the list of 16 possibilities.

You don't think Perry would endorse Trump, do you?
Well, he may be #15. But the Bush family and Perry hate one another, so it's not like he will endorse him if he drops out. If he endorses anyone in the coming months, it will certainly not be Jeb.

Why do they hate each other? George W. Bush was Perry's mentor.
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 10:23:11 PM »

So, when do we place our bets?
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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2015, 10:33:30 PM »

Perry might as well drop out and endorse Cruz, Walker, or Paul.

If he's gonna endorse someone, I think Bush and Rubio are closer to be his final choice. Cruz is just way too extreme, even for Perry, and especially on immigration. Remember that according to Perry, people like Cruz and Trump "don't have a heart". Smiley

There is a 0% chance Perry endorses a Bush… he is last on the list of 16 possibilities.

You don't think Perry would endorse Trump, do you?
Well, he may be #15. But the Bush family and Perry hate one another, so it's not like he will endorse him if he drops out. If he endorses anyone in the coming months, it will certainly not be Jeb.

Why do they hate each other? George W. Bush was Perry's mentor.

Perry actively distanced himself from the Bush machine and also went very personal.
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2015, 10:34:12 PM »

Perry might as well drop out and endorse Cruz, Walker, or Paul.

If he's gonna endorse someone, I think Bush and Rubio are closer to be his final choice. Cruz is just way too extreme, even for Perry, and especially on immigration. Remember that according to Perry, people like Cruz and Trump "don't have a heart". Smiley

There is a 0% chance Perry endorses a Bush… he is last on the list of 16 possibilities.

You don't think Perry would endorse Trump, do you?
Well, he may be #15. But the Bush family and Perry hate one another, so it's not like he will endorse him if he drops out. If he endorses anyone in the coming months, it will certainly not be Jeb.

Why do they hate each other? George W. Bush was Perry's mentor.

http://theweek.com/articles/481659/rick-perrygeorge-w-bush-feud-timeline

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2015, 10:38:29 PM »

Bush actually ran a third party candidate against Perry in the general. His press secretary's mom ran as a Libertarian.
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2015, 11:55:55 PM »

Perry might as well drop out and endorse Cruz, Walker, or Paul.

If he's gonna endorse someone, I think Bush and Rubio are closer to be his final choice. Cruz is just way too extreme, even for Perry, and especially on immigration. Remember that according to Perry, people like Cruz and Trump "don't have a heart". Smiley

There is a 0% chance Perry endorses a Bush… he is last on the list of 16 possibilities.

You don't think Perry would endorse Trump, do you?
Well, he may be #15. But the Bush family and Perry hate one another, so it's not like he will endorse him if he drops out. If he endorses anyone in the coming months, it will certainly not be Jeb.

Why do they hate each other? George W. Bush was Perry's mentor.

Not really. Predecessor != Mentor

The Bush people will claim they "made" Perry's career because in 1998, when Bush was running for reelection as the indisputable favorite, Perry was trying to move from agriculture commissioner to lieutenant governor in a tossup race with Democratic Comptroller John Sharp. Bush supposedly liked Sharp on a personal level more than he liked Perry, but did not want to be in the position of handing the state to a Democrat if/when he was elected president. So he diverted money from his campaign to Perry's and got Poppy Bush to formally endorse Perry. Bush never had the genial working relationship with Perry that he did with Bob Bullock, who preceded Perry in office.

Perry resented all of these perceived slights. There was also the matter of 2006, when Carole Strayhorn staged an intraparty revolt and ran against Perry as an independent, and Bush's people didn't lift a finger to try to stop it. Then, in 2010, the Bush people proceeded to throw all of their weight behind Kay Bailey Hutchison's failed primary challenge to Perry.
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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2015, 12:34:23 AM »

It's true that Perry probably wouldn't've won the 1998 lieutenant gubernatorial election without Bush's coattails upticket, but Bush and Perry were not friendly and the two groups have no love lost for each other.
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2015, 12:58:17 AM »

I read the article and thought to myself - why is Perry's campaign manager suggesting he should compete in New Hampshire in the first place? If I wanted to keep Perry running, then I would cut a lot of expenses by just not showing up there. Why would New Hampshire go for Perry?

Of course reminds us why Perry is here in the first place - because he's polling at 1%. Nobody wants Perry 4 Prez. But Iowa is a place where Perry, if he puts his nose to the grind stone, could gain a lot of ground.
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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2015, 01:01:38 AM »

Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, governor. If you work harder, you'll have more success!
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2015, 01:28:53 AM »

Bush actually ran a third party candidate against Perry in the general. His press secretary's mom ran as a Libertarian.
Carole of the Many Names ran as an independent in 2006. After running for mayor of Austin in 2009, and finishing 3rd. she was toying with running as a Democrat for Controller.
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2015, 01:46:26 AM »

Looks like the Super Pac is once again going to help bring Perry back from the dead
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In 2012 we saw how Santorum and GIngrich surived via outside money, now this zombie campaign is the new normal. We may have got to the point where you cannot kill campaigns, they will continue forever.

Citizens United, keeping bad campaigns alive. All you need is to be corrupt enough that some really rich guy backs you.
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« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2015, 02:55:30 AM »

LOL I would love it if he was the first to drop out. Pathetic garbage.
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2015, 10:24:33 PM »

My Perry = Zombie meme has been picked up by WaPo

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« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2015, 10:37:33 PM »

Which candidates don't even have big Super PACs to prop them up though?  I wouldn't expect too many billionaires to be propping up the candidacy of George Pataki, for example.  The winnowing might still happen for candidates who can't even get people to donate to their cause by giving to PACs with no donation limits.
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« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2015, 10:45:27 PM »

Well some of the lower tier campaigns like Pataki are probably more capable of living off the land and limiting their spending to travel and a handful (if any) paid staffers. As long as they are getting into some kind of debates and/or 'forums' they can hang around on the faint hope of getting a moment.

But that is why a campaign like Christie's may be the first to go. They are really trying to be in the big time and their super pac is planning on spending some cash to boost his numbers to keep him in the varsity debate. And of course Christie is known to like to live large, so I dont think he would be cool going to Motel 6 and having little to no staff. So I think his campaign and his super pac could run out of money by the end of the quarter, and he may not be able to find a sugar daddy to zombify his campaign. Jindal is another campaign that I would put high on the list for an early death without much zombification.
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2015, 07:00:29 AM »

Christie already has a "sugar daddy" billionaire donor: Ken Langone, founder of the Home Depot.
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2015, 05:39:34 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2015, 05:41:24 PM by Likely Voter »

Another update: Perry's IA campaign chair has stepped down.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/165dd42f0f06411aa1a87fe477d3d9fa/perrys-iowa-chairman-has-left-lagging-campaign

If much of the activity of the campaign is now happening at the Super PAC it probably makes sense for someone like him to quit as he isn't really running things so what is the point of sticking around.  Extending the zombie metaphor, this is like one of the walking dead's hands falling off, but the reanimated corpse keeps shambling on....
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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2015, 06:18:05 PM »

At this rate, I have to wonder if Perry will make it to the CNN debate.
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« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2015, 06:52:50 PM »

If Perry had anything left to lose he'd have been out of the race months ago. As long as he can afford his personal expenses (which might be down to gas, lodging, food, and laundry at this point) and people keep inviting him to stuff, does he really have anything better to do?
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« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2015, 07:07:25 PM »

He should just live in Iowa and hope a win there expands elsewhere.
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« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2015, 07:13:28 PM »

Isn't Perry at 14th place in Iowa right now?
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« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2015, 07:26:04 PM »

At this rate, I have to wonder if Perry will make it to the CNN debate.

He's polled 1% or higher in three national polls taken between July and now, so he is guaranteed entrance into the kids' debate.
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