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Question: Should minors need parental consent to get an abortion (in situations where you think abortion should be legal)?
#1
No, they should be allowed to get an abortion (in some or all situations) without consent, regardless of age.
 
#2
Yes, in some cases (explain).
 
#3
Yes, in all cases.
 
#4
No, abortion should always be illegal (except if mother's life is at risk).
 
#5
Other (explain).
 
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darthebearnc
Junior Chimp
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« on: August 23, 2015, 10:08:22 PM »

Abortion restrictions are annoying. Organisms don't matter unless they can feel emotion. For all I care, you can have abortions just for fun if you want.
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darthebearnc
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2015, 06:41:07 AM »

Abortion restrictions are annoying. Organisms don't matter unless they can feel emotion. For all I care, you can have abortions just for fun if you want.

OK, this is gross. Abortions are not 'fun'. People have horrifying experiences with abortions and are mentally traumatized with seeing baby parts being sucked up. Everybody should want less abortions, abortions should never be seen as a positive thing. They should be seen as 'justified' if necessary but not good.

The "if you want" part is kind of relevant here.
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darthebearnc
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2015, 07:03:10 AM »


Ok, what do pro-choice people think, the thing developing in your stomach is? That thing is going to be a baby and to abort the child, is to kill the going to be alive child, you could have been aborted and you do not have chance to live, a human right. The fetus has a heart, has bodily organs, consumes food and can feel pain after 20 weeks. The baby has bodily features, so it is more than just a bunch of cells, abortion is the killing of an innocent child who has been deprived of the right to life.


Yes, the thing developing inside a woman's uterus is a human (food goes in the stomach, baby goes in the uterus), but it should not have the same rights as people who have already been born until it can feel emotion (which actually happens after thalamocortical connections are created around 28 weeks into gestation, well into the third trimester). To argue that a fetus should have rights merely because it has the potential to do so is kind of absurd, as the same argument could be used to assert that all egg and sperm cells should be given the same rights as people because they have the potential.

Whether the fetus has "bodily features" is irrelevant; why should it not be?
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