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« on: August 25, 2015, 10:27:59 AM »

Well we have a police murder megathread, police kill a few hundred people a year in the U.S. So I figured let's start tracking murders committed by illegal immigrants and statistics relevant to the issue.

"Between 2008 and 2014, 40% of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34% and Arizona 17.8%.

During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38% of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6% of the total population in those states.

That 38% represents 7,085 murders out of the total of 18,643."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/08/illegal-alien-crime-accounts-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/

Here is a video presenting these statistics from the Government Accountability Office:

https://youtu.be/oIBiGVk9-o8?t=3m30s

Certainly if your concern is loss of life, illegal aliens are a much larger cause of loss of life than police, who are responsible for several hundred deaths a year, while illegal immigrants are responsible for thousands of deaths a year.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2015, 10:42:40 AM »

As far as I can tell, this is just straight up not true.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/16/voices-gomez-undocumented-immigrant-crime-san-francisco-shooting/30159479/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798

http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/illegal-immigration-might-actually-reduce-crime-rates
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2015, 10:44:02 AM »

Also:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/aug/17/tom-tancredo/tancredo-muffs-illegal-immigrant-murder-stats/
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2015, 12:48:32 PM »

It would be nice if you at least quoted pertinent parts of your link to construct your posts here, construct a cited claim instead of just pasting sources at us.

Here's what I've found looking into the murder rate more:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/illegal_aliens_murder_at_a_much_higher_rate_than_us_citizens_do.html

"Let’s take homicide as an example. The GAO estimates “criminal aliens” were arrested, convicted and incarcerated for 25,064 homicides. If non-citizens committed them over seven years, the annual rate would be 14.2 per 100,000 non-citizens. If illegal aliens committed them over four years, the annual rate would be 58.0 per 100,000 illegal aliens. Either way you compute, those are high rates.

By comparison, the FBI reports the murder rates for the entire U.S. from 2003 through 2009 varied from 5.0 to 5.8 per 100,000 inhabitants for an average rate of 5.5. To be clear, 5.5 is much lower than either 14.2 or 58.0.

Or look at the total number of homicides in those years. Per the FBI, there were 67,642 murders in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. Per the GAO, criminal aliens committed 25,064 of them. That means they committed 22% to 37% of all murders in the U.S., while being only 3.52% to 8.25% of the population."
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM »

You posted a video. I figured I was just giving it back to you as you gave it. But if you're too busy to click the links, then here you go:

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2015, 02:41:40 PM »

"What's the deal with immigrants, George?"
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2015, 04:24:46 PM »

Make America Great Again... #DroneTheRacists
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