Bush campaign releases devastating web ad against Trump

[dudeabides]

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

[Blair]

Trump is correct on 'single payer', it does work much better than the stale market orientated healthcare disaster that the US has.

Highlights from the comments

'Still don't care, Trump is still better than another Bush''

''Folks tend to change their mind when life experience shows that their original opinion or belief is no longer valid or was possibly wrong to begin with. I have certainly changed my mind as I have learned through time. I have voted for TWO of the Bush family for president. Considering the other candidates at the time it was not a hard choice. It is not a hard choice now. Trump 2016!''

''This video didn't really change my mind, and I think it's a weak attack. Trump was a private citizen most of his life, not a politician, and he seems to have naturally evolved his positions over time.''

''I like him even more after this video. He's a pragmatist and not a partisan. I'm a moderate republican and I think the rich should be paying more in taxes. The middle class is getting absolutely hosed in this country. Trump 2016!''

[Penelope]

Highlights from the comments

'Still don't care, Trump is still better than another Bush''

''Folks tend to change their mind when life experience shows that their original opinion or belief is no longer valid or was possibly wrong to begin with. I have certainly changed my mind as I have learned through time. I have voted for TWO of the Bush family for president. Considering the other candidates at the time it was not a hard choice. It is not a hard choice now. Trump 2016!''

''This video didn't really change my mind, and I think it's a weak attack. Trump was a private citizen most of his life, not a politician, and he seems to have naturally evolved his positions over time.''

''I like him even more after this video. He's a pragmatist and not a partisan. I'm a moderate republican and I think the rich should be paying more in taxes. The middle class is getting absolutely hosed in this country. Trump 2016!''

"Devastating"

[bobloblaw]

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

Wont make a difference. Bush is weak on the border and embraces another culture.

Running Jeb is like running Billy Carter (RIP)

[Penelope]

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

Wont make a difference. Bush is weak on the border and embraces another culture.

Running Jeb is like running Billy Carter (RIP)

Wow.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I maintain that Trump's appeal rests way more in his attitude than in his stance on issues. It's identity politics to the extreme. Trump will call these shallow attacks, they'll be dismissed with the wave of a hand, and, in the end, they will have only fed into his image and narrative.

[Simfan34]

In normal circumstances, this should be a devastating ad. It probably would be campaign-killing for most candidates. But these-- unfortunately-- are not normal circumstances.

[King]

Devastatingly ineffective

[bobloblaw]

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

Wont make a difference. Bush is weak on the border and embraces another culture.

Running Jeb is like running Billy Carter (RIP)

Wow.

That's right. Americans dont want someone who embraces Mexico as their President. Mexico is a corrupt failed state that has invented nothing, discovered nothing and contributed nothing to humanity. You have an issue with that?

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I maintain that Trump's appeal rests way more in his attitude than in his stance on issues. It's identity politics to the extreme. Trump will call these shallow attacks, they'll be dismissed with the wave of a hand, and, in the end, they will have only fed into his image and narrative.

Agreed. Trump is doing what Andrew Jackson and William Henry Harrison did to great effect: running on his image as a no-nonsence champion of the common man and avoiding the issues whenever possible.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Jeb Bush, his campaign, the mainstream media and dudeabides alike do not understand the party base.

[Lief 🗽]

Hilarious how completely out of touch Jeb Bush and his multi-million-dollar lobbyist-funded campaign is.

[King]

You know who else was also aligned with the Democrats in the 80s and 90s? White Republican voters in the South and Midwest.

[dudeabides]

In normal circumstances, this should be a devastating ad. It probably would be campaign-killing for most candidates. But these-- unfortunately-- are not normal circumstances.

I agree to the extent that this is not an ordinary campaign, but I think it's devastating if you ask voters who have not yet decided on a candidate.

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

Wont make a difference. Bush is weak on the border and embraces another culture.

Running Jeb is like running Billy Carter (RIP)

Wow.

That's right. Americans dont want someone who embraces Mexico as their President. Mexico is a corrupt failed state that has invented nothing, discovered nothing and contributed nothing to humanity. You have an issue with that?

Most of the folks crossing the border are not Mexicans, but okay.

Your hero Donald Trump is not the first blonde-haired delusional wacko to claim one group causes all the nation's woes and supports socialism.....

Jeb Bush, his campaign, the mainstream media and dudeabides alike do not understand the party base.

The Republican Party is as divided as can be right now. There are multiple wings of the party. I'm part of the fiscally conservative wing of the party, but the tea party wing doesn't care because they are too caught up in their own anger and ignorance.

[RFayette]

Trump is correct on 'single payer', it does work much better than the stale market orientated healthcare disaster that the US has.

Highlights from the comments

'Still don't care, Trump is still better than another Bush''

''Folks tend to change their mind when life experience shows that their original opinion or belief is no longer valid or was possibly wrong to begin with. I have certainly changed my mind as I have learned through time. I have voted for TWO of the Bush family for president. Considering the other candidates at the time it was not a hard choice. It is not a hard choice now. Trump 2016!''

''This video didn't really change my mind, and I think it's a weak attack. Trump was a private citizen most of his life, not a politician, and he seems to have naturally evolved his positions over time.''

''I like him even more after this video. He's a pragmatist and not a partisan. I'm a moderate republican and I think the rich should be paying more in taxes. The middle class is getting absolutely hosed in this country. Trump 2016!''

This is what a lot of real 'moderate Republicans' looks like, not the Beltway "moderates" like dudeabides (don't get me wrong, I'm probably closer to dudeabides than Trump on a lot of issues, but I don't kid myself thinking that I represent some majority of people).   Moderates are just extremists on a bunch of issues, but they tend to balance each other out.  Also, people vote more on identity rather than ideology.  That's just a fact.

[dudeabides]

Trump is correct on 'single payer', it does work much better than the stale market orientated healthcare disaster that the US has.

Highlights from the comments

'Still don't care, Trump is still better than another Bush''

''Folks tend to change their mind when life experience shows that their original opinion or belief is no longer valid or was possibly wrong to begin with. I have certainly changed my mind as I have learned through time. I have voted for TWO of the Bush family for president. Considering the other candidates at the time it was not a hard choice. It is not a hard choice now. Trump 2016!''

''This video didn't really change my mind, and I think it's a weak attack. Trump was a private citizen most of his life, not a politician, and he seems to have naturally evolved his positions over time.''

''I like him even more after this video. He's a pragmatist and not a partisan. I'm a moderate republican and I think the rich should be paying more in taxes. The middle class is getting absolutely hosed in this country. Trump 2016!''

This is what a lot of real 'moderate Republicans' looks like, not the Beltway "moderates" like dudeabides (don't get me wrong, I'm probably closer to dudeabides than Trump on a lot of issues, but I don't kid myself thinking that I represent some majority of people).   Moderates are just extremists on a bunch of issues, but they tend to balance each other out.  Also, people vote more on identity rather than ideology.  That's just a fact.

First of all, I'm glad we are close on the issues. I understand there are some folks on this forum who dislike me because I take on the stupidity of Donald Trump, others think I'm nothing but a shill for the Bush campaign, and that's fine but in reality, I care very deeply about this country and the issues we face.

I talk politics with people on a regular basis. I live in a state where many Republicans are very moderate, we have some hardcore conservative, but a lot of moderates. I don't hear moderate Republicans talking about the same things Mr. Trump talks about. Most of the moderates I know are conservative fiscally, but are more open to same-sex marriage and some are even pro-choice. I myself have no issue with same-sex marriage, but I am very pro-life.

I think people vote primarily on the basis of who they believe will actually make a difference for them and their country. That's why I think the GOP should stick to bread & butter issues if we want to win, and we need that kind of campaign because this nation faces some serious economic challenges.

Also, I don't need polls to tell me what to think, but the fact is a majority of Republicans agree with many of the positions I hold, though I admit I'm more moderate on immigration and same-sex marriage.

[EliteLX]

Dear God look at all the damn idiots in the comment section.

"WOOT GO0000 TRUMP FCK BUSH, JEB JUST DOESN'T GET IT!"

Get what? The fact you are riding an absolute clown's tail who can't even decide which political party (4 in the past 15 years) he is interested in being in? Somebody who will literally bullsh**t his way into whatever staunch social conservatives want to hear? I hate my party having a base of an idiots, it truly pains me sometimes.

So many idiots it hurts, truly hurts.

[Rocky Rockefeller]

I feel like these kinds of attacks would be more effective if they didn't come from an establishment candidate. If Ted Cruz started calling Trump a socialist, the tea party might start listening.

[Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort]

"You attack Donald Trump for a liberal past while he attacks you for being a present liberal."

The comments section is crushing it.

[EliteLX]

"You attack Donald Trump for a liberal past while he attacks you for being a present liberal."

The comments section is crushing it.

If Jeb Bush is a "liberal" I do not want to associate or be a part of the conservative branch. Because "conservative" must be Hitler, and I don't mean that figuratively. So, they aren't really crushing it.

[Donald Trump 2016 !]

Ouch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=IgKWPcpwFDs

At the moment the video has 130 likes and 230 dislikes. Not exactly as "devastating" as you might think.

[bobloblaw]

"You attack Donald Trump for a liberal past while he attacks you for being a present liberal."

The comments section is crushing it.

If Jeb Bush is a "liberal" I do not want to associate or be a part of the conservative branch. Because "conservative" must be Hitler, and I don't mean that figuratively. So, they aren't really crushing it.

Godwin's Law emerges

[dudeabides]

Dear God look at all the damn idiots in the comment section.

"WOOT GO0000 TRUMP FCK BUSH, JEB JUST DOESN'T GET IT!"

Get what? The fact you are riding an absolute clown's tail who can't even decide which political party (4 in the past 15 years) he is interested in being in? Somebody who will literally bullsh**t his way into whatever staunch social conservatives want to hear? I hate my party having a base of an idiots, it truly pains me sometimes.

So many idiots it hurts, truly hurts.

Thank you, I couldn't agree more.

Ronald Reagan was a rock solid conservative as President. He was the first President to implement a Mexico City policy, he signed historic tax relief into law, he reduced regulations, he had a Fed. Chairman who had a good monetary policy, he supported strict constructionist judges, he took on the air traffic control union and won, and he reformed social security on a bi-partisan basis.

Yet, he granted amnesty to illegals in 1986 and he expanded medicaid. I have criticized John Kasich and Chris Christie for expanding medicaid, and I disagree with Reagan on that issue. But I have not called Kasich a liberal, nor would I call Reagan a liberal. Unfortunately, some in the modern Republican Party would.

There are two issues where Jeb Bush is in the minority with the GOP base. First, his position on illegal immigration, I share his views on this. The base says he supports "amnesty," that is factually incorrect. In fact, 51% of Republicans polled support a pathway to citizenship, that is actually a position to the left of mine and Governor Bush's. The second issue is Common Core, what is interesting here is that it is a complete lie that the federal government created common core, it's state driven and Jeb Bush has said he doesn't want the federal government being involved with educational standards. I personally oppose Common Core and want my state to opt-out, Chris Christie was ready to embrace common core until he decided to run for President. I'm glad we are opting-out.

But let's forget about Jeb Bush here. I have had enough of some in the tea party making false claims about Republicans who don't agree with them 100% of the time. There are plenty of Republicans I like who I don't agree with on every issue. Some are moderate, some are conservative. Even the tea party isn't consistently conservative - their opposition to trade promotion authority is based on paranoia, it's not fact based. I don't see the point in trying to agree with everyone 100% of the time because no one can find another person they always agree with. That's the main issue I have with people like Ted Cruz, if you aren't with them on one issue, you are cast as a "RINO." It seems the most popular figures in today's conservative AND liberal movements have accomplished nothing. What did Barack Obama accomplish before 2008? What has Ted Cruz accomplished? NOTHING.

[bobloblaw]

Dear God look at all the damn idiots in the comment section.

"WOOT GO0000 TRUMP FCK BUSH, JEB JUST DOESN'T GET IT!"

Get what? The fact you are riding an absolute clown's tail who can't even decide which political party (4 in the past 15 years) he is interested in being in? Somebody who will literally bullsh**t his way into whatever staunch social conservatives want to hear? I hate my party having a base of an idiots, it truly pains me sometimes.

So many idiots it hurts, truly hurts.

Thank you, I couldn't agree more.

Ronald Reagan was a rock solid conservative as President. He was the first President to implement a Mexico City policy, he signed historic tax relief into law, he reduced regulations, he had a Fed. Chairman who had a good monetary policy, he supported strict constructionist judges, he took on the air traffic control union and won, and he reformed social security on a bi-partisan basis.

Yet, he granted amnesty to illegals in 1986 and he expanded medicaid. I have criticized John Kasich and Chris Christie for expanding medicaid, and I disagree with Reagan on that issue. But I have not called Kasich a liberal, nor would I call Reagan a liberal. Unfortunately, some in the modern Republican Party would.

There are two issues where Jeb Bush is in the minority with the GOP base. First, his position on illegal immigration, I share his views on this. The base says he supports "amnesty," that is factually incorrect. In fact, 51% of Republicans polled support a pathway to citizenship, that is actually a position to the left of mine and Governor Bush's. The second issue is Common Core, what is interesting here is that it is a complete lie that the federal government created common core, it's state driven and Jeb Bush has said he doesn't want the federal government being involved with educational standards. I personally oppose Common Core and want my state to opt-out, Chris Christie was ready to embrace common core until he decided to run for President. I'm glad we are opting-out.

But let's forget about Jeb Bush here. I have had enough of some in the tea party making false claims about Republicans who don't agree with them 100% of the time. There are plenty of Republicans I like who I don't agree with on every issue. Some are moderate, some are conservative. Even the tea party isn't consistently conservative - their opposition to trade promotion authority is based on paranoia, it's not fact based. I don't see the point in trying to agree with everyone 100% of the time because no one can find another person they always agree with. That's the main issue I have with people like Ted Cruz, if you aren't with them on one issue, you are cast as a "RINO." It seems the most popular figures in today's conservative AND liberal movements have accomplished nothing. What did Barack Obama accomplish before 2008? What has Ted Cruz accomplished? NOTHING.

In a way Bush is like Huntsman. Everyone thought Huntsman was a sane moderate. Truth was as Gov he was pretty conservative. However, there were a few issues where he antagonized the GOP base. He ended up with 1%. Bush has done the same thing but immigration and common core are more important to the Base than anything Huntsman pissed them off about.

Conservative or not. Bush has gone out of his way to piss off primary voters. Fact is history was cruel to Yeb when he lost in FL in 1994. Had we won, I am sure he, not GW would have been president in 2000 and Yeb would have likely won a much bigger victory in both the EC and won the NPV by 1-3%. Carrying FL easily along with OR, IA, NM maybe even MI and PA. Closer to 300 EVs not 271. Much of the acrimony in the country today (not all) stems from Bush 2000.

But Yeb missed his chance and there is no way he will ever be elected.

[Cory]

Your hero Donald Trump is not the first blonde-haired delusional wacko to claim one group causes all the nation's woes and supports socialism.....

Just who exactly are you supposed to be referencing here?

Because I hope you realize Hitler wasn't blonde-haired nor did he support Socialism.