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« on: September 19, 2015, 06:55:33 pm »
« edited: September 19, 2015, 08:04:42 pm by Barnes »

Title: Military Organization Act of 2015
Status: Amendment Stage
Sponsor: Mr. SJoyce (Minister for Foreign Affairs)
Seconder: Mr. ChairmanSanchez

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 06:59:05 pm »

First Reading

The call the Minister for Foreign Affairs.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 07:02:25 pm »

The Parliament of South America has little authority over the national militaries of each South American nation - by and large, the national governments continue to control their own military forces. This legislation would lay the groundwork for integration without trampling on the individual jurisdiction of the national militaries, by binding us together with a governing body and a mutual defense pact.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 07:06:24 pm »

Is there a Seconder?
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 08:03:00 pm »

I'll second such legislation.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 08:04:24 pm »

Amendment Stage

The bill now moves to the proposal of amendments.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2015, 09:33:37 am »

The Workers Party condemns this piece of militarist legislation. We oppose all attempts at the construction of a continent-wide army that will inevitably be used by the Con-Lib government or its labor lieutenants, the Socialist Party, to break strikes or engage in imperialist conflicts abroad. Down with the Con-Lib government!
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2015, 12:15:17 pm »

This bill is a necessary measure to keep our country safe. I fully support it. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2015, 02:15:22 pm »

This is the first step towards a military coup, something that our fair continent has had more than enough trouble with over the centuries. Article 1 in particular is just asking for trouble.
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2015, 03:41:10 pm »

I'd raise to the House that this bill follows the precedent set by NATO, indeed this government looks at how NATO has provided stability, security and protection for Europe since it's creation in 1947. This bill has the safeguards in place so the idea that it will lead to a 'coup' is simply incorrect-not only is a 2/3rds vote needed for any chance but there's overview by the Foreign Secretary. The safeguards are in place
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2015, 09:50:01 pm »

Second Reading

The bill now moves to the Second Reading debate.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2015, 04:22:29 am »

'Look to NATO'? Hah! NATO is a tool of the imperialist butchers.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2015, 09:32:16 pm »

Third Reading

The bill now moves to a proposed third reading.

I call the Minister for Foreign Affairs.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2015, 10:30:26 pm »

Few substantiative objections have been raised to this piece of legislation. It is generally accepted that we need some kind of organizational structure for this continentís militaries. While we cannot proceed with full integration at this time, there seems to be little problem with a multinational council and a mutual defense pact. Mr. Sibbolethís objections concern the likelihood of a military coup, but he fails to explain why a military coup is more likely after the passage of this piece of legislation, particularly when considering that there are no treaty restraints placed on national militaries in the status quo. This legislation binds together the continentís militaries, in the ultimate interest of security and stability. I urge its passage.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2015, 10:32:55 pm »

The question is that the bill be read a third time.

Division! The ayes to the right of the chair, the noes to the left of the chair.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2015, 10:45:18 pm »

*Moves silently to the right*
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2015, 10:48:47 pm »


I always enjoy a sense of humor in the House!  I do appreciate Honorable Members allowing me to co-opt some parlance from other parliaments for my own enjoyment.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2015, 05:55:02 am »

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One would expect this government would at the very least be capable of producing legislation without such embarrasments, but alas, it seems even this is too much to ask for.

As for the vote,

No
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2015, 07:44:42 am »

aye
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2015, 07:47:09 am »

Nay!
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2015, 08:01:28 am »

AYE!
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2015, 09:04:28 am »

Nay
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2015, 10:02:05 am »

Whatever the increasingly shrill protestations of the Leader of the Opposition one would imagine that escape characters are automatically removed when legislation enters statue - it's not as if the articles of the Constitution Act are punctuated with [/ls].
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2015, 11:19:37 am »

Aye
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 01:06:03 pm »

Nay
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