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« on: September 25, 2015, 10:37:18 AM »
« edited: September 25, 2015, 10:39:17 AM by TNvolunteer »

Clinton/Carson: 37/52
Clinton/Fiorina: 39/47
Clinton/Rubio: 41/45
Clinton/Trump: 43/44
Clinton/Cruz: 43/43
Clinton/Huckabee: 43/44
Clinton/Kasich: 41/39
Clinton/Bush: 41/42
Biden/Bush: 44/40
Biden/Trump: 46/44
Biden/Carson: 38/47
Sanders/Bush: 42/40
Sanders/Carson: 34/48
Sanders/Trump: 44/44
Clinton/Bush/Trump: 38/26/27

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/IowaPollRemaindersSeptember2015.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2015, 10:47:38 AM »

Ben Carson could really win this thing if he gets the nomination.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2015, 10:47:50 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2015, 10:49:46 AM »

She isn't electable. Too much baggage. People are sick of her and the Clintons.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2015, 10:51:37 AM »

Man I hope Carson gets the nomination, dude is such a wacko.

It would be game over once people realize some of the crazy stuff he believes.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2015, 10:57:06 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2015, 10:59:44 AM by TNvolunteer »

Man I hope Carson gets the nomination, dude is such a wacko.

It would be game over once people realize some of the crazy stuff he believes.

That won't make Clinton a better candidate. Losing a D+1 state by 15 points to a "wacko" is quite a feat. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2015, 11:00:01 AM »

Man I hope Carson gets the nomination, dude is such a wacko.

It would be game over once people realize some of the crazy stuff he believes.

That won't make Clinton a better candidate. Losing a D+1 state by 15 points to a "wacko" is quite a feat. Smiley

If its against Carson, she would not lose Iowa by 15. Guarantee it. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2015, 11:31:21 AM »

Sanders performs a little better than Clinton once again.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2015, 11:33:41 AM »

Carson could not run an effective campaign. In the debates, he acts like he barely knows what he's doing.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2015, 11:37:10 AM »

I TOLD you all that Clinton has an Iowa problem. She consistently polls poorly relative to Obama west of the Mississippi River.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2015, 11:46:03 AM »

Is the WV rural effect spreading to IA now?

There are too many differences between Iowa and West Virginia for that to happen.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2015, 12:06:59 PM »

Carson and Fiorina won't do nearly as well once a general election campaign gets started.  They're riding off of favorable coverage about being the anti-Trump and haven't been really targeted by attacks (and they have obvious vulnerabilities to exploit).  The fact that they're doing so well is a perfect example of why polling this so far out is mostly useless.

Rubio is looking strong too, and he'd fare much better in a campaign.  I'm miles more worried about him than Carson and Fiorina.  Everyone else is within a point or two.

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2015, 01:03:10 PM »

So much for Pope Pious John Kasich being the electoral savior of the Republican Party.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2015, 01:06:10 PM »

I think maybe it's time for PPP to leave the polling business, to be quite frank.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2015, 01:17:38 PM »

I think maybe it's time for PPP to leave the polling business, to be quite frank.

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2015, 03:34:49 PM »

Iowa is those deep purple states that picks the election along with CO & NV. It isnt this red and neither is CO. It will be close at end.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2015, 04:19:38 PM »

Sanders is better against Hillary in all cases; 3 points better against Bush and 1 point better against Trump and Carson.
And PPP had some pretty good results for Hillary in the primary, so if anything the poll favors Hillary over Sanders.
It's clear that Hillary is the least electable of the 3.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2015, 05:44:48 PM »

Carson can barely form sentences. There's no way he can win.

I think he's so in the shadows he's just "Generic Republican" right now.
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2015, 06:37:49 PM »

Iowa: The next Missouri.  Not that it matters that much, due to its small size.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2015, 06:39:06 PM »

Carson can barely form sentences. There's no way he can win.

I think he's so in the shadows he's just "Generic Republican" right now.

But his numbers keep going up after every terrible thing he says. Maybe Americans are horrible.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2015, 07:06:32 PM »

Carson can barely form sentences. There's no way he can win.

I think he's so in the shadows he's just "Generic Republican" right now.
"Well liked generic Republican" is more like it. He's just a good name right now. I don't think he'll win the state by 15 points.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2015, 07:52:17 PM »

The pattern becomes apparent. Bush-Gore or Bush-Kerry map is the most likely prediction judging by the polls in Iowa and Florida.

We're back to standard, unexpanded maps, where dems struggle to win Florida, Iowa and Colorado. We'll see about Nevada.

The election hinges on Ohio and Virginia (or Nevada).

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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2015, 11:03:55 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2015, 11:11:40 PM by The Year Summer Ended In July »

Is the WV rural effect spreading to IA now?

No because (as so many fail to realize) Iowa isn't really a rural state.

I agree that Carson is now basically known as "generic Republican" except "generic Republican who's black and a doctor". That's all most people know about him. The crazy stuff he says if he somehow gets nominated (not likely) is going to come up fast.

Look at the Trump numbers. Consider Trump is actually a known entity.
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2015, 12:12:46 AM »

Obviously CLINTON is trailing due to the fact Sanders is competitive with her Iowa. The same in CO. In NH& Pa and NV she should be in pretty good shape
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2015, 12:02:14 PM »

Iowa: The next Missouri.  Not that it matters that much, due to its small size.

It matters because VA becomes a must-win state for the Democrats if this trend in IA continues and the GOP manages to win FL and OH. Oh, it also shows that NH (a D+1 PVI state as well!) is a lost cause for the GOP.
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