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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« on: September 28, 2015, 11:24:22 AM »

He's already been broken by Trump. Trump will be coming for Rube-e-o next.
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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2015, 03:39:38 PM »

Struggling in a primary normally means you'll struggle in the general.

This is simply false. All republicans would suck up and vote for Jeb Bush when it came down to it. He's perfectly conservative enough, has excellent fiscal achievement in Florida and has a heart that you can't quite find out of the other 20+ candidates in this race on both sides. I don't care what people tell polling companies right now, the Republican base would come down to election week with Hillary Clinton as the Dem nominee and would get off their ass and vote for Jeb. He's not George Pataki. Jeb is absolutely conservative on various issues and conservatively moderate on a few issues at absolute worse.

Jeb is playing for the general and seeings as how the GOP base would suck up and vote for him, then he just has to broaden the base outside that, which is what he looks to be doing.

Jeb struggling in the primary is not a sign he'll struggle in the general. He's struggling in the primary because he is playing for the general instead of catering to the GOP base this early on.

No, he's struggling the primary because there's no basis for his candidacy. There are better "moderate" center-right Republican governors running (Kasich, Christie) who were actually elected in this decade.

There is a basis for his candidacy. Our country is headed in the wrong direction on a variety of fronts and we need someone with a proven record of reform who can turn it around. Jeb Bush has those skills, he was in business and served as Governor of one of the largest states in the country where he fundamentally reformed government.

Chris Christie has not been a great Governor. He was handed a very difficult situation and while he did some good things in his first term, his second term has been a complete disaster. He's increased debt, corporate welfare, and he's failed to cut taxes.

John Kasich believes that the Supreme Court is the ultimate authority and I don't think Americans want someone who spent 18 years in Washington D.C. at a time when congress has historically low approval ratings, the people want someone who is either an outsider or at least a fresh face. 

And the people, loudly and clearly, want Donald J. Trump to be that someone.
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Negusa Nagast 🚀
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2015, 03:45:15 PM »

Struggling in a primary normally means you'll struggle in the general.

This is simply false. All republicans would suck up and vote for Jeb Bush when it came down to it. He's perfectly conservative enough, has excellent fiscal achievement in Florida and has a heart that you can't quite find out of the other 20+ candidates in this race on both sides. I don't care what people tell polling companies right now, the Republican base would come down to election week with Hillary Clinton as the Dem nominee and would get off their ass and vote for Jeb. He's not George Pataki. Jeb is absolutely conservative on various issues and conservatively moderate on a few issues at absolute worse.

Jeb is playing for the general and seeings as how the GOP base would suck up and vote for him, then he just has to broaden the base outside that, which is what he looks to be doing.

Jeb struggling in the primary is not a sign he'll struggle in the general. He's struggling in the primary because he is playing for the general instead of catering to the GOP base this early on.

No, he's struggling the primary because there's no basis for his candidacy. There are better "moderate" center-right Republican governors running (Kasich, Christie) who were actually elected in this decade.

There is a basis for his candidacy. Our country is headed in the wrong direction on a variety of fronts and we need someone with a proven record of reform who can turn it around. Jeb Bush has those skills, he was in business and served as Governor of one of the largest states in the country where he fundamentally reformed government.

Chris Christie has not been a great Governor. He was handed a very difficult situation and while he did some good things in his first term, his second term has been a complete disaster. He's increased debt, corporate welfare, and he's failed to cut taxes.

John Kasich believes that the Supreme Court is the ultimate authority and I don't think Americans want someone who spent 18 years in Washington D.C. at a time when congress has historically low approval ratings, the people want someone who is either an outsider or at least a fresh face. 

And the people, loudly and clearly, want Donald J. Trump to be that someone.

In the long run, the voters are going to recognize that Donald Trump is no different than a typical politician who says anything to win, only unlike Republicans, Mr. Trump has been an ardent champion of socialism like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

You've been saying this for 3 months; reiterating a talking point over and over again doesn't make it true. Donald Trump is the one man who cannot be bought, and that one fact alone gives him a staggering advantage over the rest of the field.
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