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« on: September 29, 2015, 11:04:46 am »

Carson 51
Clinton 41

Rubio 50
Clinton 40

Huckabee 48
Clinton 41

Fiorina 48
Clinton 41

Bush 46
Clinton 41

Trump 47
Clinton 42

Kasich 44
Clinton 40

Cruz 46
Clinton 43

Biden 47
Bush 42

Biden 45
Trump 45

Fiorina 45
Biden 44

Carson 47
Biden 44

Bush 45
Sanders 39

Carson 48
Sanders 35

Fiorina 46
Sanders 37

Trump 46
Sanders 43

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/09/trump-steady-in-nc-biden-polls-well-.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2015, 01:09:57 pm »

#NominateHillary

What are you talking about? She can easily win the election without Colorado. She can easily win it without Colorado and Iowa as well, although she is currently leading all opponents by 4% or more in Iowa. Remember that she's currently ahead of everyone even in North Carolina, which is in fact a more important state than Colorado and Iowa put together. Right now she is on a path more crushing than that of Obama 2012.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2015, 01:18:15 pm »

Wow, interesting primary numbers. Joe Biden is within striking distance of Clinton already.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2015, 01:39:42 pm »

These recent state poll numbers are starting to show the vastly improving general election numbers for the GOP in '16 is not a "JUNK POLL!!1!" as most liberals around here would say.

We are starting to approach an area in the election where we see if Hillary Clinton is the dem nominee (still extremely likely): Jeb or Rubio can very factually win a national election in 2016. With numbers in Iowa, NC, Colorado, Florida and more not only appearing to make flips back to red but also having drastic improvements.. we can NOT disregard their potential correlation with the 2016 General Election.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2015, 02:04:54 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2015, 02:31:52 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.

Hillary will do better in NC than she will do in CO. And she'll significantly lose both.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2015, 02:34:45 pm »

The election is over!  I do declare
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 02:46:02 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.

That's arguably not correct, actually. Hillary is not nearly favored as CO leaning her way in any way whatsoever. If a candidate for the GOP is nominated that has at least any common sense for recognizing the hispanic demographic, CO goes to the GOP in '16 if Hillary is the Dem ticket. If Biden, then that's more realistic, but Hillary will not win CO in this situation.

The map only favors Nevada and Pennsylvania for the Democrats in 2016 out of those states. 2016 Clinton vs ElectableGOPCandidate will very likely flip Colorado for the Republicans. Virginia is nothing but an all out bloodshed fight, and the GOP better be ready to pour every last dime they have into it before November 8th comes around and run a hell of a ground game.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2015, 02:49:50 pm »

Damn, I do feel like I have some egg on my face regarding my Hillary-inevitable hackery earlier this year.  Draft Biden really seems like a worthy cause at this point.  Hillary still will probably have a slight-to-moderate advantage over her GOP opponent due to the grueling and uncertain primary process, but this is a very different ball game compared to a few months ago.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2015, 03:44:51 pm »

Flying Biden the amazing!
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2015, 04:01:08 pm »

Hilary isnt gonna lose she leads Trump in the NBC News poll by 10. But, NC is a GOP leaning state.

You say Clinton will lose CO, www.electionprojection.com  got Clinton favored over Trump even in Colorado.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2015, 04:35:56 pm »

Biden continues to outpoll Clinton in GE matchups. This is the kind of thing that could convince establishment Dems that he is the best chance. The question is, can actual real candidate Biden hold up as well as notional theoretical candidate Biden?
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 05:40:47 pm »

Hilary isnt gonna lose she leads Trump in the NBC News poll by 10. But, NC is a GOP leaning state.

You say Clinton will lose CO, www.electionprojection.com  got Clinton favored over Trump even in Colorado.

I never said anything about Trump. Trump would not win a national election versus Hillary, that's just political truth (unless something major shifted). I'm speaking of Rubio, Jeb, .etc.

NC, Iowa, Colorado, and Florida (.etc) numbers are all showing signs that Hillary is everything but sold in a general election against one of the electable GOP'ers. Clinton would lose CO against Rubio or Jeb. Biden would most definitely not, but that lying sack of pandering baggage would not hold CO in '16. Many political experts have backed the claim that Hillary is not a fit for CO and with the Marijuanna reformation dying down quietly again '16 will be a different year for politics in CO, especially with a stronger campaign than Mitts.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 07:20:32 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.

Hillary will do better in NC than she will do in CO. And she'll significantly lose both.

To paraphrase Angels in America ...

"You ain't stupid, so don't talk stupid"...

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, will struggle in NC and we know how silly it is to make GE pronouncements more than a year before the election. 

The GOP car-crash is the only game in town, the Dems aren't really all-together engaged beyond activists at this point, therefore there's a lot of hyped attention. We'll see how things lie once a few contests have happened to declare the outcomes of next November... shall we?
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 07:23:54 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.

Hillary will do better in NC than she will do in CO. And she'll significantly lose both.

To paraphrase Angels in America ...

"You ain't stupid, so don't talk stupid"...

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, will struggle in NC and we know how silly it is to make GE pronouncements more than a year before the election. 

Exactly.  Plus, there's significant discordance both between the state polls and between the state and national polls.  It is simply impossible for all these polls to be accurately reflecting the current situation, even if the election were held today.  For instance, I just don't see Rubio winning North Carolina in a rout but getting thumped badly in New Hampshire.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2015, 07:33:24 pm »

For instance, I just don't see Rubio winning North Carolina in a rout but getting thumped badly in New Hampshire.

Why? NH is hardly a swing state, it's a very liberal New England state. Rubio is polling well in every battleground state so far.
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2015, 11:16:56 pm »

For instance, I just don't see Rubio winning North Carolina in a rout but getting thumped badly in New Hampshire.

Why? NH is hardly a swing state, it's a very liberal New England state. Rubio is polling well in every battleground state so far.

I can see Rubio losing NH, but not by say, 10 points or something while simultaneously winning NC by 7+ points.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 05:24:22 pm »

The map still favors the Dems in NV, CO and Pa and Va.  The GOP has its work cut out for them, and Clinton will be Dems nominee.

Hillary will do better in NC than she will do in CO. And she'll significantly lose both.

*Sigh* This is really getting old.

Republicans are getting some good numbers in NC, which is obviously good for them, but NC would be sprinkles on top of icing on the cake for Democrats, so they can afford to lose it.
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